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Subject: Re: Playgrounds Magazine
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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 18:25 UTC

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:42:53 AM UTC-4, Frank Greenbaum wrote:
> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 8:49:54 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 10:09:58 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 3:50:12 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > As Harlan Ellison wrote, "Fiction is creative lying."
> > >
> > > We don't see that Ellison ever said that. Could you give us a specific citation?
> > >
> > > “Fiction is the lie through which we tell the truth.” ― Albert Camus
> >
> > I did find one from Harlan Ellison in which he says the same basic thing:
> >
> > "There are writers who lie to themselves, and to their readers. Lying to readers in fiction is probably okay, because what is fiction but the well-constructed lie?" -Harlan Ellison
> >
> > From:
> > The Harlan Ellison Hornbook: Essays - Google Books Result
> > https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1497604621
> > Harlan Ellison - 2014 - ‎Biography & Autobiography
> >
> > https://books.google.com/books?id=UsgqAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT65&dq=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&pg=PT65#v=onepage&q=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&f=false
> >
> > ...
>
> Thank would like to see that art once more...…..

I don't remember the exact issues but I'm sure they will surface eventually

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 by: Zod - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 19:34 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:42:53 AM UTC-4, Frank Greenbaum wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 8:49:54 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 10:09:58 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 3:50:12 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > As Harlan Ellison wrote, "Fiction is creative lying."
>> > >
>> > > We don't see that Ellison ever said that. Could you give us a specific citation?
>> > >
>> > > “Fiction is the lie through which we tell the truth.” ― Albert Camus
>> >
>> > I did find one from Harlan Ellison in which he says the same basic thing:
>> >
>> > "There are writers who lie to themselves, and to their readers. Lying to readers in fiction is probably okay, because what is fiction but the well-constructed lie?" -Harlan Ellison
>> >
>> > From:
>> > The Harlan Ellison Hornbook: Essays - Google Books Result
>> > https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1497604621
>> > Harlan Ellison - 2014 - ‎Biography & Autobiography
>> >
>> > https://books.google.com/books?id=UsgqAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT65&dq=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&pg=PT65#v=onepage&q=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&f=false
>> >
>> > ...
>>
>> Thank would like to see that art once more...…..

> I don't remember the exact issues but I'm sure they will surface eventually

I do not still have copies of the several issues in question, but around 1999...

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 by: ME - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 19:56 UTC

On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 14:25:49 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:42:53 AM UTC-4, Frank Greenbaum wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 8:49:54 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 10:09:58 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 3:50:12 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As Harlan Ellison wrote, "Fiction is creative lying."
> > > >
> > > > We don't see that Ellison ever said that. Could you give us a specific citation?
> > > >
> > > > “Fiction is the lie through which we tell the truth.” ― Albert Camus
> > >
> > > I did find one from Harlan Ellison in which he says the same basic thing:
> > >
> > > "There are writers who lie to themselves, and to their readers. Lying to readers in fiction is probably okay, because what is fiction but the well-constructed lie?" -Harlan Ellison
> > >
> > > From:
> > > The Harlan Ellison Hornbook: Essays - Google Books Result
> > > https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1497604621
> > > Harlan Ellison - 2014 - ‎Biography & Autobiography
> > >
> > > https://books.google.com/books?id=UsgqAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT65&dq=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&pg=PT65#v=onepage&q=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&f=false
> > >
> > > ...
> >
> > Thank would like to see that art once more...…..
>
> I don't remember the exact issues but I'm sure they will surface eventually

CAN you say ‘deflection’?

I know you can spell it because I just wrote it for you.
God damn but you are one obtuse, dumb ass bastard.

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 by: General-Zod - Sat, 20 Aug 2022 21:45 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:42:53 AM UTC-4, Frank Greenbaum wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 8:49:54 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 10:09:58 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 3:50:12 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > As Harlan Ellison wrote, "Fiction is creative lying."
>> > >
>> > > We don't see that Ellison ever said that. Could you give us a specific citation?
>> > >
>> > > “Fiction is the lie through which we tell the truth.” ― Albert Camus
>> >
>> > I did find one from Harlan Ellison in which he says the same basic thing:
>> >
>> > "There are writers who lie to themselves, and to their readers. Lying to readers in fiction is probably okay, because what is fiction but the well-constructed lie?" -Harlan Ellison
>> >
>> > From:
>> > The Harlan Ellison Hornbook: Essays - Google Books Result
>> > https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1497604621
>> > Harlan Ellison - 2014 - ‎Biography & Autobiography
>> >
>> > https://books.google.com/books?id=UsgqAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT65&dq=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&pg=PT65#v=onepage&q=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&f=false
>> >
>> > ...
>>
>> Thank would like to see that art once more...…..

> I don't remember the exact issues but I'm sure they will surface eventually

I THX

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 by: W.Dockery - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 17:28 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:42:53 AM UTC-4, Frank Greenbaum wrote:
>>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 8:49:54 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 10:09:58 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>>> > > On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 3:50:12 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > As Harlan Ellison wrote, "Fiction is creative lying."
>>> > >
>>> > > We don't see that Ellison ever said that. Could you give us a specific citation?
>>> > >
>>> > > “Fiction is the lie through which we tell the truth.” ― Albert Camus
>>> >
>>> > I did find one from Harlan Ellison in which he says the same basic thing:
>>> >
>>> > "There are writers who lie to themselves, and to their readers. Lying to readers in fiction is probably okay, because what is fiction but the well-constructed lie?" -Harlan Ellison
>>> >
>>> > From:
>>> > The Harlan Ellison Hornbook: Essays - Google Books Result
>>> > https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1497604621
>>> > Harlan Ellison - 2014 - ‎Biography & Autobiography
>>> >
>>> > https://books.google.com/books?id=UsgqAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT65&dq=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&pg=PT65#v=onepage&q=%22fiction%22%20%22lying%22%20%22harlan%20ellison%22&f=false
>>> >
>>> > ...
>>>
>>> Thank would like to see that art once more...…..

>> I don't remember the exact issues but I'm sure they will surface eventually

> I do not still have copies of the several issues in question, but around 1999...

Yes, around that era.

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