"In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."

This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
How do we give them something new and entertaining?
What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...

We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?

BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."

I wonder if he was as big of a trolling, sycophantic, ignorant, unhygenic douchebag "in [his] youth" as he is today?
Or was that something he just perfected over years of trial and error?

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 9:04:30 PM UTC, Family Guy wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> I wonder if he was as big of a trolling, sycophantic, ignorant, unhygenic douchebag "in [his] youth" as he is today?
> Or was that something he just perfected over years of trial and error?

We are sure he was just as bad. He was also unemployable, which is why he joined the Navy (supposedly). He doesn't demonstrate any knowledge of sailing ships, the sea, Horatio Hornblower, the Napoleonic Wars, or life skills.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 2:07:13 PM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 9:04:30 PM UTC, Family Guy wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> > I wonder if he was as big of a trolling, sycophantic, ignorant, unhygenic douchebag "in [his] youth" as he is today?
> > Or was that something he just perfected over years of trial and error?
> We are sure he was just as bad. He was also unemployable, which is why he joined the Navy (supposedly). He doesn't demonstrate any knowledge of sailing ships, the sea, Horatio Hornblower, the Napoleonic Wars, or life skills.

Let's terminate him: X

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:10:24 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 2:07:13 PM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 9:04:30 PM UTC, Family Guy wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> > > I wonder if he was as big of a trolling, sycophantic, ignorant, unhygenic douchebag "in [his] youth" as he is today?
> > > Or was that something he just perfected over years of trial and error?
> > We are sure he was just as bad. He was also unemployable, which is why he joined the Navy (supposedly). He doesn't demonstrate any knowledge of sailing ships, the sea, Horatio Hornblower, the Napoleonic Wars, or life skills.
> Let's terminate him: X

Georgie Porgie has been doing a good enough job of his own on that in recent years.
One suspects that there will be a call to 9-1-1 one of these days of someone finding a body just off of the freeway.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
>
> BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.

IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.

I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.

I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.

On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> > > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> > We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
> >
> > BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.
> IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.
It's certainly possible that he never was in the Navy. However, we see that age waivers starts at 34, so at 27 he could have joined, providing that he met the physical and mental tests.
>
> I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.
No, remember when he claimed to have been in the Navy for "most of the 80s?" Well, that wasn't quite true either:

> "My years in the Navy were indeed 1986-1990... and then a number of years in the Navy Resrves..."
Note that he was in the "Resrves," not the "Reserves." However, according to his birth date, he would have been 27 when joining (if he did).
>
> I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.
They were indeed all over a time line. You were in the Navy--do you recognize some of the terms that we have pointed out from the Forester books? Sulzbach seems to be ignorant even of the concept of "ocean."

On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:12:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> > > > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > > > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > > > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> > > We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
> > >
> > > BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.
> > IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.
> It's certainly possible that he never was in the Navy. However, we see that age waivers starts at 34, so at 27 he could have joined, providing that he met the physical and mental tests.
> >
> > I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.
> No, remember when he claimed to have been in the Navy for "most of the 80s?" Well, that wasn't quite true either:
>
> > "My years in the Navy were indeed 1986-1990... and then a number of years in the Navy Resrves..."
> Note that he was in the "Resrves," not the "Reserves." However, according to his birth date, he would have been 27 when joining (if he did).
> >
> > I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.
> They were indeed all over a time line. You were in the Navy--do you recognize some of the terms that we have pointed out from the Forester books? Sulzbach seems to be ignorant even of the concept of "ocean."

I recognize the terms from other novels (Melville, Conrad, Poe, etc.), and from researching clipper ships (and such) for my poetry. In the Navy, I learned terms like "split-tail," "burger king," "chit," "head," "rifter," "grinder," and such.

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:25:48 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:12:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol..com wrote:
> > > > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> > > > > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > > > > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > > > > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> > > > We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
> > > >
> > > > BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.
> > > IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.
> > It's certainly possible that he never was in the Navy. However, we see that age waivers starts at 34, so at 27 he could have joined, providing that he met the physical and mental tests.
> > >
> > > I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.
> > No, remember when he claimed to have been in the Navy for "most of the 80s?" Well, that wasn't quite true either:
> >
> > > "My years in the Navy were indeed 1986-1990... and then a number of years in the Navy Resrves..."
> > Note that he was in the "Resrves," not the "Reserves." However, according to his birth date, he would have been 27 when joining (if he did).
> > >
> > > I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.
> > They were indeed all over a time line. You were in the Navy--do you recognize some of the terms that we have pointed out from the Forester books? Sulzbach seems to be ignorant even of the concept of "ocean."
> I recognize the terms from other novels (Melville, Conrad, Poe, etc.), and from researching clipper ships (and such) for my poetry. In the Navy, I learned terms like "split-tail," "burger king," "chit," "head," "rifter," "grinder," and such.
Did you read "Beat to Quarters" yet? We are reading the books in the order in which they were written, which is not necessarily chronological in Hornblower's life and career. The A&E series is also very good. We have watched the first 2 seasons on DVD and will watch the others "as time permits."

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 6:49:57 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:25:48 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:12:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> > > > > > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > > > > > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > > > > > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> > > > > We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.
> > > > IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.
> > > It's certainly possible that he never was in the Navy. However, we see that age waivers starts at 34, so at 27 he could have joined, providing that he met the physical and mental tests.
> > > >
> > > > I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.
> > > No, remember when he claimed to have been in the Navy for "most of the 80s?" Well, that wasn't quite true either:
> > >
> > > > "My years in the Navy were indeed 1986-1990... and then a number of years in the Navy Resrves..."
> > > Note that he was in the "Resrves," not the "Reserves." However, according to his birth date, he would have been 27 when joining (if he did).
> > > >
> > > > I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.
> > > They were indeed all over a time line. You were in the Navy--do you recognize some of the terms that we have pointed out from the Forester books? Sulzbach seems to be ignorant even of the concept of "ocean."
> > I recognize the terms from other novels (Melville, Conrad, Poe, etc.), and from researching clipper ships (and such) for my poetry. In the Navy, I learned terms like "split-tail," "burger king," "chit," "head," "rifter," "grinder," and such.
> Did you read "Beat to Quarters" yet? We are reading the books in the order in which they were written, which is not necessarily chronological in Hornblower's life and career. The A&E series is also very good. We have watched the first 2 seasons on DVD and will watch the others "as time permits."
>

No. I haven't done any reading (outside of AAPC posts and online articles) since I started writing my latest poetry collection (2 1/2 years ago). The collection is nearing completion, and I hope to start reading again early next year.

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 8:55:55 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 6:49:57 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:25:48 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:12:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> > > > > > > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > > > > > > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > > > > > > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> > > > > > We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.
> > > > > IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.
> > > > It's certainly possible that he never was in the Navy. However, we see that age waivers starts at 34, so at 27 he could have joined, providing that he met the physical and mental tests.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.
> > > > No, remember when he claimed to have been in the Navy for "most of the 80s?" Well, that wasn't quite true either:
> > > >
> > > > > "My years in the Navy were indeed 1986-1990... and then a number of years in the Navy Resrves..."
> > > > Note that he was in the "Resrves," not the "Reserves." However, according to his birth date, he would have been 27 when joining (if he did).
> > > > >
> > > > > I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.
> > > > They were indeed all over a time line. You were in the Navy--do you recognize some of the terms that we have pointed out from the Forester books? Sulzbach seems to be ignorant even of the concept of "ocean."
> > > I recognize the terms from other novels (Melville, Conrad, Poe, etc.), and from researching clipper ships (and such) for my poetry. In the Navy, I learned terms like "split-tail," "burger king," "chit," "head," "rifter," "grinder," and such.
> > Did you read "Beat to Quarters" yet? We are reading the books in the order in which they were written, which is not necessarily chronological in Hornblower's life and career. The A&E series is also very good. We have watched the first 2 seasons on DVD and will watch the others "as time permits."
> >
> No. I haven't done any reading (outside of AAPC posts and online articles) since I started writing my latest poetry collection (2 1/2 years ago). The collection is nearing completion, and I hope to start reading again early next year.

Congratulations on the collection. That’s quite a project.

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 12:55:55 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 6:49:57 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:25:48 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:12:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> > > > > > > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > > > > > > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > > > > > > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> > > > > > We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.
> > > > > IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.
> > > > It's certainly possible that he never was in the Navy. However, we see that age waivers starts at 34, so at 27 he could have joined, providing that he met the physical and mental tests.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.
> > > > No, remember when he claimed to have been in the Navy for "most of the 80s?" Well, that wasn't quite true either:
> > > >
> > > > > "My years in the Navy were indeed 1986-1990... and then a number of years in the Navy Resrves..."
> > > > Note that he was in the "Resrves," not the "Reserves." However, according to his birth date, he would have been 27 when joining (if he did).
> > > > >
> > > > > I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.
> > > > They were indeed all over a time line. You were in the Navy--do you recognize some of the terms that we have pointed out from the Forester books? Sulzbach seems to be ignorant even of the concept of "ocean."
> > > I recognize the terms from other novels (Melville, Conrad, Poe, etc.), and from researching clipper ships (and such) for my poetry. In the Navy, I learned terms like "split-tail," "burger king," "chit," "head," "rifter," "grinder," and such.
> > Did you read "Beat to Quarters" yet? We are reading the books in the order in which they were written, which is not necessarily chronological in Hornblower's life and career. The A&E series is also very good. We have watched the first 2 seasons on DVD and will watch the others "as time permits."
> >
> No. I haven't done any reading (outside of AAPC posts and online articles) since I started writing my latest poetry collection (2 1/2 years ago). The collection is nearing completion, and I hope to start reading again early next year.
We would not be able to go that long without reading books. You will be vastly behind in reading the best sellers!

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 9:26:34 AM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 8:55:55 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 6:49:57 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:25:48 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:12:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo....@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth....."
> > > > > > > > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > > > > > > > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > > > > > > > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> > > > > > > We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.
> > > > > > IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.
> > > > > It's certainly possible that he never was in the Navy. However, we see that age waivers starts at 34, so at 27 he could have joined, providing that he met the physical and mental tests.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.
> > > > > No, remember when he claimed to have been in the Navy for "most of the 80s?" Well, that wasn't quite true either:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "My years in the Navy were indeed 1986-1990... and then a number of years in the Navy Resrves..."
> > > > > Note that he was in the "Resrves," not the "Reserves." However, according to his birth date, he would have been 27 when joining (if he did).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.
> > > > > They were indeed all over a time line. You were in the Navy--do you recognize some of the terms that we have pointed out from the Forester books? Sulzbach seems to be ignorant even of the concept of "ocean."
> > > > I recognize the terms from other novels (Melville, Conrad, Poe, etc..), and from researching clipper ships (and such) for my poetry. In the Navy, I learned terms like "split-tail," "burger king," "chit," "head," "rifter," "grinder," and such.
> > > Did you read "Beat to Quarters" yet? We are reading the books in the order in which they were written, which is not necessarily chronological in Hornblower's life and career. The A&E series is also very good. We have watched the first 2 seasons on DVD and will watch the others "as time permits.."
> > >
> > No. I haven't done any reading (outside of AAPC posts and online articles) since I started writing my latest poetry collection (2 1/2 years ago). The collection is nearing completion, and I hope to start reading again early next year.
> Congratulations on the collection. That’s quite a project.

Thanks, Spam-I-Am.

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:35:56 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 12:55:55 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 6:49:57 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:25:48 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:12:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo....@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth....."
> > > > > > > > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > > > > > > > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > > > > > > > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> > > > > > > We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.
> > > > > > IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.
> > > > > It's certainly possible that he never was in the Navy. However, we see that age waivers starts at 34, so at 27 he could have joined, providing that he met the physical and mental tests.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.
> > > > > No, remember when he claimed to have been in the Navy for "most of the 80s?" Well, that wasn't quite true either:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "My years in the Navy were indeed 1986-1990... and then a number of years in the Navy Resrves..."
> > > > > Note that he was in the "Resrves," not the "Reserves." However, according to his birth date, he would have been 27 when joining (if he did).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.
> > > > > They were indeed all over a time line. You were in the Navy--do you recognize some of the terms that we have pointed out from the Forester books? Sulzbach seems to be ignorant even of the concept of "ocean."
> > > > I recognize the terms from other novels (Melville, Conrad, Poe, etc..), and from researching clipper ships (and such) for my poetry. In the Navy, I learned terms like "split-tail," "burger king," "chit," "head," "rifter," "grinder," and such.
> > > Did you read "Beat to Quarters" yet? We are reading the books in the order in which they were written, which is not necessarily chronological in Hornblower's life and career. The A&E series is also very good. We have watched the first 2 seasons on DVD and will watch the others "as time permits.."
> > >
> > No. I haven't done any reading (outside of AAPC posts and online articles) since I started writing my latest poetry collection (2 1/2 years ago). The collection is nearing completion, and I hope to start reading again early next year.
> We would not be able to go that long without reading books. You will be vastly behind in reading the best sellers!

I haven't read many contemporary novels... probably because I've little interest in contemporary things. Those I do read, are usually set in the past.. I also don't pay any attention to the best sellers lists. If I come across a book that catches my interest (usually in a second-hand bookstore or a library sale), I'll read it. When it comes to seeking out books to read, I'm still working my way through Dickens (I've read a bio on him, 7 out of 15 novels, and several short stories).

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:59:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:35:56 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 12:55:55 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 6:49:57 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:25:48 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:12:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth....."
> > > > > > > > > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > > > > > > > > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > > > > > > > > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> > > > > > > > We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.
> > > > > > > IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.
> > > > > > It's certainly possible that he never was in the Navy. However, we see that age waivers starts at 34, so at 27 he could have joined, providing that he met the physical and mental tests.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.
> > > > > > No, remember when he claimed to have been in the Navy for "most of the 80s?" Well, that wasn't quite true either:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "My years in the Navy were indeed 1986-1990... and then a number of years in the Navy Resrves..."
> > > > > > Note that he was in the "Resrves," not the "Reserves." However, according to his birth date, he would have been 27 when joining (if he did).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.
> > > > > > They were indeed all over a time line. You were in the Navy--do you recognize some of the terms that we have pointed out from the Forester books? Sulzbach seems to be ignorant even of the concept of "ocean."
> > > > > I recognize the terms from other novels (Melville, Conrad, Poe, etc.), and from researching clipper ships (and such) for my poetry. In the Navy, I learned terms like "split-tail," "burger king," "chit," "head," "rifter," "grinder," and such.
> > > > Did you read "Beat to Quarters" yet? We are reading the books in the order in which they were written, which is not necessarily chronological in Hornblower's life and career. The A&E series is also very good. We have watched the first 2 seasons on DVD and will watch the others "as time permits."
> > > >
> > > No. I haven't done any reading (outside of AAPC posts and online articles) since I started writing my latest poetry collection (2 1/2 years ago).. The collection is nearing completion, and I hope to start reading again early next year.
> > We would not be able to go that long without reading books. You will be vastly behind in reading the best sellers!
> I haven't read many contemporary novels... probably because I've little interest in contemporary things. Those I do read, are usually set in the past.
We like those too--have you read "Master and Commander?"

> I also don't pay any attention to the best sellers lists. If I come across a book that catches my interest (usually in a second-hand bookstore or a library sale), I'll read it. When it comes to seeking out books to read, I'm still working my way through Dickens (I've read a bio on him, 7 out of 15 novels, and several short stories).
We know that Dickens serialized two of his novels, and there was great demand for each new installment. You can buy 3 volumes of "Master Humphrey's Clock" (1840/1841) for $400 on eBay or a first edition for $4,898.00. (Spoiler: Little Nell dies.)

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 12:22:54 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:59:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:35:56 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 12:55:55 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 6:49:57 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:25:48 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:12:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:33:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:23:01 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > "In my youth I was a great fan of the Hornblower novels, and in some ways probably inspired me to join the Navy later in my youth...."
> > > > > > > > > > This inane profanity is sullen insanity, I say.
> > > > > > > > > > How do we give them something new and entertaining?
> > > > > > > > > > What new methods of murder through words are there yet to be committed? How else to engage in assault and battery with written instruments? These are the quandaries currently confounding us...
> > > > > > > > > We have read the first four Hornblower novels and commented on a few, including on terminology. We do not believe that George Sulzbach read any of the C. S. Forester Horatio Hornblower novels. He may have read a comic book. Does he care to discuss the books with us?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > BTW, Sulzbach was 27 when he joined the Navy.
> > > > > > > > IIRC, 25 was the cut off date. A 27-year old would need to get special permission.
> > > > > > > It's certainly possible that he never was in the Navy. However, we see that age waivers starts at 34, so at 27 he could have joined, providing that he met the physical and mental tests.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm going solely from memory here (since I've blocked too many of GZ's threads to bother with a search), but I believe he was born in 1959 and served in the Navy from 1978-1982.
> > > > > > > No, remember when he claimed to have been in the Navy for "most of the 80s?" Well, that wasn't quite true either:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "My years in the Navy were indeed 1986-1990... and then a number of years in the Navy Resrves..."
> > > > > > > Note that he was in the "Resrves," not the "Reserves." However, according to his birth date, he would have been 27 when joining (if he did).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I also have a vague recollection that he might have fudged those dates on at least one occasion.
> > > > > > > They were indeed all over a time line. You were in the Navy--do you recognize some of the terms that we have pointed out from the Forester books? Sulzbach seems to be ignorant even of the concept of "ocean."
> > > > > > I recognize the terms from other novels (Melville, Conrad, Poe, etc.), and from researching clipper ships (and such) for my poetry. In the Navy, I learned terms like "split-tail," "burger king," "chit," "head," "rifter," "grinder," and such.
> > > > > Did you read "Beat to Quarters" yet? We are reading the books in the order in which they were written, which is not necessarily chronological in Hornblower's life and career. The A&E series is also very good. We have watched the first 2 seasons on DVD and will watch the others "as time permits."
> > > > >
> > > > No. I haven't done any reading (outside of AAPC posts and online articles) since I started writing my latest poetry collection (2 1/2 years ago). The collection is nearing completion, and I hope to start reading again early next year.
> > > We would not be able to go that long without reading books. You will be vastly behind in reading the best sellers!
> > I haven't read many contemporary novels... probably because I've little interest in contemporary things. Those I do read, are usually set in the past.
> We like those too--have you read "Master and Commander?"

No. Off the top of my head, the sea-faring novels I h've read are: "Moby-Dick," "Omoo," "Typee," "Billy Budd," "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket," "Carry On Mr. Bowditch," "Two Years Before the Mast," "Treasure Island," "Lord Jim," "The Secret Sharer," "The Sea Wolf," and "The Old Man and the Sea."

> > I also don't pay any attention to the best sellers lists. If I come across a book that catches my interest (usually in a second-hand bookstore or a library sale), I'll read it. When it comes to seeking out books to read, I'm still working my way through Dickens (I've read a bio on him, 7 out of 15 novels, and several short stories).
> We know that Dickens serialized two of his novels, and there was great demand for each new installment. You can buy 3 volumes of "Master Humphrey's Clock" (1840/1841) for $400 on eBay or a first edition for $4,898.00. (Spoiler: Little Nell dies.)
>

No worries, I'm well aware of Little Nell's fate -- "The Old Curiosity Shop" is one of my all-time favorite books.