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 by: Spam-I-Am - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:52 UTC

‘Hemingway’s Brain’, is a forensic analysis
of Ernest Hemingway by Dr. Andrew Farah.
https://www.amazon.com/Hemingways-Brain-Non-Andrew-Farah/dp/1611177421

‘Hemingway’s Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy‘
is an interview with Dr. Farah in Psychiatric Times.
https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/hemingways-chronic-traumatic-encephalopathy

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:06 UTC

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:52:26 AM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> ‘Hemingway’s Brain’, is a forensic analysis
> of Ernest Hemingway by Dr. Andrew Farah.
> https://www.amazon.com/Hemingways-Brain-Non-Andrew-Farah/dp/1611177421
>
> ‘Hemingway’s Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy‘
> is an interview with Dr. Farah in Psychiatric Times.
> https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/hemingways-chronic-traumatic-encephalopathy

“CTE is a degenerative disease thought to be linked to repeated head traumas
such as concussions and has been identified in the brains of football players
who have committed suicide. It is possible that some of the symptoms of PTSD
and other mental health conditions in Veterans are caused by CTE.”
https://www.research.va.gov/topics/tbi.cfm

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Subject: Re: Good Reads
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 by: Spam-I-Am - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:16 UTC

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 8:06:56 AM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:52:26 AM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > ‘Hemingway’s Brain’, is a forensic analysis
> > of Ernest Hemingway by Dr. Andrew Farah.
> > https://www.amazon.com/Hemingways-Brain-Non-Andrew-Farah/dp/1611177421
> >
> > ‘Hemingway’s Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy‘
> > is an interview with Dr. Farah in Psychiatric Times.
> > https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/hemingways-chronic-traumatic-encephalopathy
> “CTE is a degenerative disease thought to be linked to repeated head traumas
> such as concussions and has been identified in the brains of football players
> who have committed suicide. It is possible that some of the symptoms of PTSD
> and other mental health conditions in Veterans are caused by CTE.”
> https://www.research.va.gov/topics/tbi.cfm

Introduction
“On July 2, 1961, Earnest Miller Hemingway rose quietly so as not to disturb his wife. He put on his bathrobe and slippers, walked down to the basement of his Idaho home, and unlocked his gun case. He climbed the steps to his foyer, placed his favorite shotgun to the roof of his mouth, and blew the top of his head off.
Many of those who have never read a Hemingway novel or biography still know the details of this tragedy. His suicide may even be the most famous in American history, competing with those of Marilyn Monroe and Robin Williams for this tragic distinction. He shot himself only six days after his discharge from the Mayo Clinic, where he had been hospitalized twice. The primary goal of his treatment at Mayo for severe depression and psychosis was to prevent this exact scenario. Yet his death was the result not of medical mismanagement, but of medical misunderstanding. Hemingway received state-of-the-art psychiatric treatment in 1960 and 1961, but for the wrong illness.”

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 by: General-Zod - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 20:29 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:

>
>> > ‘Hemingway’s Brain’, is a forensic analysis
>> > of Ernest Hemingway by Dr. Andrew Farah.
>> > https://www.amazon.com/Hemingways-Brain-Non-Andrew-Farah/dp/1611177421
>> >
>> > ‘Hemingway’s Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy‘
>> > is an interview with Dr. Farah in Psychiatric Times.
>> > https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/hemingways-chronic-traumatic-encephalopathy
>> “CTE is a degenerative disease thought to be linked to repeated head traumas
>> such as concussions and has been identified in the brains of football players
>> who have committed suicide. It is possible that some of the symptoms of PTSD
>> and other mental health conditions in Veterans are caused by CTE.”
>> https://www.research.va.gov/topics/tbi.cfm

> Introduction
> “On July 2, 1961, Earnest Miller Hemingway rose quietly so as not to disturb his wife. He put on his bathrobe and slippers, walked down to the basement of his Idaho home, and unlocked his gun case. He climbed the steps to his foyer, placed his favorite shotgun to the roof of his mouth, and blew the top of his head off.
> Many of those who have never read a Hemingway novel or biography still know the details of this tragedy. His suicide may even be the most famous in American history, competing with those of Marilyn Monroe and Robin Williams for this tragic distinction. He shot himself only six days after his discharge from the Mayo Clinic, where he had been hospitalized twice. The primary goal of his treatment at Mayo for severe depression and psychosis was to prevent this exact scenario. Yet his death was the result not of medical mismanagement, but of medical misunderstanding. Hemingway received state-of-the-art psychiatric treatment in 1960 and 1961, but for the wrong illness.”

Sad but interesting E.H. lore....

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Subject: Re: Good Reads
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The first brush with death when I was young was someone who did that, left his family with a mess of his brains splattered all over his bedroom. I couldn't under why he choose to escape, he unlike me, seemed to have freedom, a life and a family. Even though I finally escaped to freedom without resorting to his drastic method, I still feel his doom following me.

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On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> The first brush with death when I was young was someone who did that, left his family with a mess of his brains splattered all over his bedroom. I couldn't under why he choose to escape, he unlike me, seemed to have freedom, a life and a family. Even though I finally escaped to freedom without resorting to his drastic method, I still feel his doom following me.

My best friend as a kid did the same. Here’s his story.
https://www.nytimes.com/1986/01/13/style/life-after-a-son-s-suicide-one-family-s-struggle.html

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 23:01 UTC

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:11:03 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > The first brush with death when I was young was someone who did that, left his family with a mess of his brains splattered all over his bedroom. I couldn't under why he choose to escape, he unlike me, seemed to have freedom, a life and a family. Even though I finally escaped to freedom without resorting to his drastic method, I still feel his doom following me.
> My best friend as a kid did the same. Here’s his story.
> https://www.nytimes.com/1986/01/13/style/life-after-a-son-s-suicide-one-family-s-struggle.html

Also you could gain much perspective by firing a shotgun in a mock test run.. Don't use shot, too much of a chance of being grazed in the side of the head...
Hemingway might had it right, if head injury leads to mental degeneration, I rather not want to join the mindless ones they hide away in the soldiers' home...

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On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:01:42 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:11:03 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > The first brush with death when I was young was someone who did that, left his family with a mess of his brains splattered all over his bedroom. I couldn't under why he choose to escape, he unlike me, seemed to have freedom, a life and a family. Even though I finally escaped to freedom without resorting to his drastic method, I still feel his doom following me.
> > My best friend as a kid did the same. Here’s his story.
> > https://www.nytimes.com/1986/01/13/style/life-after-a-son-s-suicide-one-family-s-struggle.html
> Also you could gain much perspective by firing a shotgun in a mock test run. Don't use shot, too much of a chance of being grazed in the side of the head...
> Hemingway might had it right, if head injury leads to mental degeneration, I rather not want to join the mindless ones they hide away in the soldiers' home...

They’re not mindless, and they’re not hidden, but getting them out
and about is a real project, never mind getting people to come visit.

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 04:29 UTC

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:06:24 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:01:42 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:11:03 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > The first brush with death when I was young was someone who did that, left his family with a mess of his brains splattered all over his bedroom. I couldn't under why he choose to escape, he unlike me, seemed to have freedom, a life and a family. Even though I finally escaped to freedom without resorting to his drastic method, I still feel his doom following me.
> > > My best friend as a kid did the same. Here’s his story.
> > > https://www.nytimes.com/1986/01/13/style/life-after-a-son-s-suicide-one-family-s-struggle.html
> > Also you could gain much perspective by firing a shotgun in a mock test run. Don't use shot, too much of a chance of being grazed in the side of the head...
> > Hemingway might had it right, if head injury leads to mental degeneration, I rather not want to join the mindless ones they hide away in the soldiers' home...
> They’re not mindless, and they’re not hidden, but getting them out
> and about is a real project, never mind getting people to come visit.

I feel for them. Once at the VA I was waiting next to a vet. His body was functioning just fine but his mind was gone-- a vacant shell in a wheelchair pushed around by his 'widow'...
Now I'm glad you don't take me literally, perhaps your psychiatric knowledge serves you well, keeping you from knee jerk reacting that I allude harm to you.

I disagree, they're hidden from the rest of Society-- I know, they also put me on shelf, in a safe place, so normal people don't have to worry about me for serving them and their now corrupted American dream of 'only me'.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 09:14 UTC

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 12:29:36 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:06:24 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:01:42 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:11:03 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > The first brush with death when I was young was someone who did that, left his family with a mess of his brains splattered all over his bedroom. I couldn't under why he choose to escape, he unlike me, seemed to have freedom, a life and a family. Even though I finally escaped to freedom without resorting to his drastic method, I still feel his doom following me.
> > > > My best friend as a kid did the same. Here’s his story.
> > > > https://www.nytimes.com/1986/01/13/style/life-after-a-son-s-suicide-one-family-s-struggle.html
> > > Also you could gain much perspective by firing a shotgun in a mock test run. Don't use shot, too much of a chance of being grazed in the side of the head...
> > > Hemingway might had it right, if head injury leads to mental degeneration, I rather not want to join the mindless ones they hide away in the soldiers' home...
> > They’re not mindless, and they’re not hidden, but getting them out
> > and about is a real project, never mind getting people to come visit.
> I feel for them. Once at the VA I was waiting next to a vet. His body was functioning just fine but his mind was gone-- a vacant shell in a wheelchair pushed around by his 'widow'...
> Now I'm glad you don't take me literally, perhaps your psychiatric knowledge serves you well, keeping you from knee jerk reacting that I allude harm to you.
>
> I disagree, they're hidden from the rest of Society-- I know, they also put me on shelf, in a safe place, so normal people don't have to worry about me for serving them and their now corrupted American dream of 'only me'.

I don’t really have any psychiatric knowledge, just lots of experience.
Vets are hidden in plain sight, and trotted out for special occasions
and photo opportunities. A local event has people run through the VA
hospital campus as resident veterans line the street to cheer them on.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 14:54 UTC

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 5:14:39 AM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 12:29:36 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:06:24 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:01:42 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:11:03 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > The first brush with death when I was young was someone who did that, left his family with a mess of his brains splattered all over his bedroom. I couldn't under why he choose to escape, he unlike me, seemed to have freedom, a life and a family. Even though I finally escaped to freedom without resorting to his drastic method, I still feel his doom following me.
> > > > > My best friend as a kid did the same. Here’s his story.
> > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/1986/01/13/style/life-after-a-son-s-suicide-one-family-s-struggle.html
> > > > Also you could gain much perspective by firing a shotgun in a mock test run. Don't use shot, too much of a chance of being grazed in the side of the head...
> > > > Hemingway might had it right, if head injury leads to mental degeneration, I rather not want to join the mindless ones they hide away in the soldiers' home...
> > > They’re not mindless, and they’re not hidden, but getting them out
> > > and about is a real project, never mind getting people to come visit.
> > I feel for them. Once at the VA I was waiting next to a vet. His body was functioning just fine but his mind was gone-- a vacant shell in a wheelchair pushed around by his 'widow'...
> > Now I'm glad you don't take me literally, perhaps your psychiatric knowledge serves you well, keeping you from knee jerk reacting that I allude harm to you.
> >
> > I disagree, they're hidden from the rest of Society-- I know, they also put me on shelf, in a safe place, so normal people don't have to worry about me for serving them and their now corrupted American dream of 'only me'.
> I don’t really have any psychiatric knowledge, just lots of experience.
> Vets are hidden in plain sight, and trotted out for special occasions
> and photo opportunities. A local event has people run through the VA
> hospital campus as resident veterans line the street to cheer them on.

In fact, the Susquehanna River Running Festival is this upcoming weekend.
As you can see on the map, the course runs through Perry Point VA Hospital.
https://www.srrf.org/half-marathon

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 23:59 UTC

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 10:54:25 AM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 5:14:39 AM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 12:29:36 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:06:24 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:01:42 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:11:03 PM UTC-4, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > The first brush with death when I was young was someone who did that, left his family with a mess of his brains splattered all over his bedroom. I couldn't under why he choose to escape, he unlike me, seemed to have freedom, a life and a family. Even though I finally escaped to freedom without resorting to his drastic method, I still feel his doom following me.
> > > > > > My best friend as a kid did the same. Here’s his story.
> > > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/1986/01/13/style/life-after-a-son-s-suicide-one-family-s-struggle.html
> > > > > Also you could gain much perspective by firing a shotgun in a mock test run. Don't use shot, too much of a chance of being grazed in the side of the head...
> > > > > Hemingway might had it right, if head injury leads to mental degeneration, I rather not want to join the mindless ones they hide away in the soldiers' home...
> > > > They’re not mindless, and they’re not hidden, but getting them out
> > > > and about is a real project, never mind getting people to come visit.
> > > I feel for them. Once at the VA I was waiting next to a vet. His body was functioning just fine but his mind was gone-- a vacant shell in a wheelchair pushed around by his 'widow'...
> > > Now I'm glad you don't take me literally, perhaps your psychiatric knowledge serves you well, keeping you from knee jerk reacting that I allude harm to you.
> > >
> > > I disagree, they're hidden from the rest of Society-- I know, they also put me on shelf, in a safe place, so normal people don't have to worry about me for serving them and their now corrupted American dream of 'only me'.
> > I don’t really have any psychiatric knowledge, just lots of experience.
> > Vets are hidden in plain sight, and trotted out for special occasions
> > and photo opportunities. A local event has people run through the VA
> > hospital campus as resident veterans line the street to cheer them on.
> In fact, the Susquehanna River Running Festival is this upcoming weekend.
> As you can see on the map, the course runs through Perry Point VA Hospital.
> https://www.srrf.org/half-marathon

Interesting, no cups allowed on the bridge... and an interesting offense to have on one's record.


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