> How descriptive of a distorted memory is “a summer haze” relative to
> “the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
> a false tenderness”? 3 words vs. 16. If it’s supposed to be two examples,
> then the two examples ‘feel’ textually and descriptively unbalanced in my view.

I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime, but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.

It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:47:28 PM UTC-4, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> > How descriptive of a distorted memory is “a summer haze” relative to
> > “the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
> > a false tenderness”? 3 words vs. 16. If it’s supposed to be two examples,
> > then the two examples ‘feel’ textually and descriptively unbalanced in my view.
>
> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime, but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>
> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.

Ain’t poertry wunnerful?

On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
<cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:

>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is “a summer haze” relative to
>> “the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>> a false tenderness”? 3 words vs. 16. If it’s supposed to be two examples,
>> then the two examples ‘feel’ textually and descriptively unbalanced in my view.
>
>I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime, but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>
>It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.

I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.

Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.

Mack A. Damia wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is “a summer haze” relative to
>>> “the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>>> a false tenderness”? 3 words vs. 16. If it’s supposed to be two examples,
>>> then the two examples ‘feel’ textually and descriptively unbalanced in my view.
>>
>>I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime, but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>
>>It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.

> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.

> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.

interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?

Sometimes it brings up different results.

HTH and HAND.

On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is “a summer haze” relative to
>>>> “the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>>>> a false tenderness”? 3 words vs. 16. If it’s supposed to be two
>>>> examples,
>>>> then the two examples ‘feel’ textually and descriptively unbalanced
>>>> in my view.
>>>
>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view.  Our memories of
>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>>> enveloped in a Summer haze.  How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia).  It's supposed to be
>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>
>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>
>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>
>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>
>
> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>
> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>
> HTH and HAND.

Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.

The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
Howard Spring · 1951 · ‎Snippet view
FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...

https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38

That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search result.

Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
first edition is available for just $6.)

https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
<georgedance04@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>>> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>>>>> examples,
>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>>>>> in my view.
>>>>
>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view.  Our memories of
>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze.  How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia).  It's supposed to be
>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>>
>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>>
>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>>
>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>>
>>
>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>>
>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.
>
>Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>
>The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
>Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>
>https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>
>That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search result.

Yes, that seems to be it. Thanks very much!

>Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>first edition is available for just $6.)
>
>https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

I can get a used copy for $3.65.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>>> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is “a summer haze” relative to
>>>>> “the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>>>>> a false tenderness”? 3 words vs. 16. If it’s supposed to be two
>>>>> examples,
>>>>> then the two examples ‘feel’ textually and descriptively unbalanced
>>>>> in my view.
>>>>
>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view.  Our memories of
>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze.  How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia).  It's supposed to be
>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>>
>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>>
>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>>
>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>>
>>
>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>>
>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.

> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
> Howard Spring · 1951 · ‎Snippet view
> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...

> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38

> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search result.

> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
> first edition is available for just $6.)

> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Yes, Google Books are sometimes overlooked in research.

On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:05:46 +0000, will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
wrote:

>Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two examples,
>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced in my view.
>>>
>>>I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime, but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>
>>>It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>
>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>
>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>
>interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>
>Sometimes it brings up different results.
>
>HTH and HAND.

Thanks very much. In all my years, I never thought of Google Books,
but there is the quote.

George found it. I just notified my sister.

Mack A. Damia wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:05:46 +0000, will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
> wrote:

>>Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>>> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two examples,
>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced in my view.
>>>>
>>>>I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime, but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>>
>>>>It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>>
>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>>
>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>>
>>interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>>
>>Sometimes it brings up different results.
>>
>>HTH and HAND.

> Thanks very much. In all my years, I never thought of Google Books,
> but there is the quote.

> George found it. I just notified my sister.

Good evening, Mack, I'm glad the mystery is finally solved.

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 10:14:46 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> >On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
> >>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
> >>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
> >>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
> >>>>> examples,
> >>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
> >>>>> in my view.
> >>>>
> >>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
> >>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
> >>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
> >>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
> >>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
> >>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
> >>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
> >>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
> >>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
> >>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
> >>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
> >>>>
> >>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
> >>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
> >>
> >>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
> >>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
> >>
> >>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
> >>
> >>
> >> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
> >>
> >> Sometimes it brings up different results.
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
> >
> >Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
> >
> >The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
> >Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
> >FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
> >We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
> >the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
> >an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
> >
> >https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
> >
> >That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
> >preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search result.
> Yes, that seems to be it. Thanks very much!
> >Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
> >Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
> >first edition is available for just $6.)
> >
> >https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
> >https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr> I can get a used copy for $3.65.

You can borrow it here:
https://openlibrary.org/works/OL1450493W/The_houses_in_between?edition=ia%3Ahousesinbetweenn00spri

On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 02:24:34 -0700 (PDT), Spam-I-Am
<hieronymous707@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 10:14:46 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>> >>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>> >>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>> >>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>> >>>>> examples,
>> >>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>> >>>>> in my view.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>> >>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
>> >>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>> >>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>> >>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>> >>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>> >>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>> >>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>> >>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>> >>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
>> >>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>> >>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>> >>
>> >>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>> >>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>> >>
>> >>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>> >>
>> >> HTH and HAND.
>> >
>> >Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>> >
>> >The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
>> >Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>> >FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>> >We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>> >the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>> >an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>> >
>> >https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>> >
>> >That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>> >preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search result.
>> Yes, that seems to be it. Thanks very much!
>> >Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>> >Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>> >first edition is available for just $6.)
>> >
>> >https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>> >https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
>> I can get a used copy for $3.65.
>
>You can borrow it here:
>https://openlibrary.org/works/OL1450493W/The_houses_in_between?edition=ia%3Ahousesinbetweenn00spri

Thanks, Got it!

On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
<georgedance04@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>>> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>>>>> examples,
>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>>>>> in my view.
>>>>
>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view.  Our memories of
>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze.  How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia).  It's supposed to be
>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>>
>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>>
>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>>
>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>>
>>
>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>>
>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.
>
>Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>
>The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
>Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>
>https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>
>That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search result.
>
>Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>first edition is available for just $6.)
>
>https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

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Mack A. Damia wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> <georgedance04@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>>On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>>>> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>>>>>> examples,
>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>>>>>> in my view.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view.  Our memories of
>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze.  How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia).  It's supposed to be
>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>>>
>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>>>
>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>>>
>>>
>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>>>
>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>>>
>>> HTH and HAND.
>>
>>Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>>
>>The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
>>Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>>FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>>We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>>the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>>an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>>
>>https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>>
>>That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>>preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search result.
>>
>>Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>>Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>>first edition is available for just $6.)
>>
>>https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>>https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

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On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> <georgedance04@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>>>> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things Into
>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>>>>>> examples,
>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>>>>>> in my view.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view.  Our memories of
>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze.  How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia).  It's supposed to be
>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>>>
>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>>>
>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>>>
>>>
>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>>>
>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>>>
>>> HTH and HAND.
>>
>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>>
>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>>
>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>>
>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search result.
>>
>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>> first edition is available for just $6.)
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>
>
> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
>
> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
>

Well, thank you for sending me that.

When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.

Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
-- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.

So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
present; but as a memento of your, I'd suspect its value to be far
higher, maybe even above price.

On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>> <georgedance04@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>>>>> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
>>>>>>> Into
>>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>>>>>>> examples,
>>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>>>>>>> in my view.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view.  Our memories of
>>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze.  How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia).  It's supposed to be
>>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>>>>
>>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>>>>
>>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>
>>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>>>
>>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398  books.google.ca › books
>>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>>>
>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>>>
>>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
>>> result.
>>>
>>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>>> first edition is available for just $6.)
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>>
>>
>> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
>>
>> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
>>
>
> Well, thank you for sending me that.
>
> When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
> reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
> which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
> because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
> what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
>
> Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
> -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
> presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
> deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
> jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
> to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
>

I see I left out an important word:

> So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
> present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
> higher, maybe even above price.
>

On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:01:35 -0400, "George J. Dance"
<georgedance04@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
>> On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>>> <georgedance04@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>>>>>> <cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>>>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
>>>>>>>> Into
>>>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>>>>>>>> examples,
>>>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>>>>>>>> in my view.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>>>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view.  Our memories of
>>>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>>>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze.  How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>>>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>>>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>>>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>>>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>>>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>>>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia).  It's supposed to be
>>>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>>>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>>>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>>
>>>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>>>>
>>>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398  books.google.ca › books
>>>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>>>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>>>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>>>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>>>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>>>>
>>>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>>>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
>>>> result.
>>>>
>>>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>>>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>>>> first edition is available for just $6.)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>>>
>>>
>>> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
>>>
>>> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
>>>
>>
>> Well, thank you for sending me that.
>>
>> When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
>> reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
>> which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
>> because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
>> what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
>>
>> Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
>> -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
>> presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
>> deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
>> jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
>> to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
>>
>
>I see I left out an important word:
>
>> So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
>> present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
>> higher, maybe even above price.

I think I saw that the novel has a 1951 copyright date. My mother
read a lot, and I can imagine her reading this book, seeing the verse
and copying it. But she wouldn't have had the sophistication to note
the source.

I sent my sister the screenshot of the page, and she congratulated me
for "good hunting".

She wouldn't appreciate the book, and I have far too many as it is.

My housekeeper and I took a box of books to Goodwill across the border
recently. The sign said, "Donations at the back of the store". When
we drove around to the back, the sign said, "No donations on Tuesdays"
(it was Tuesday). But there was a large conex there, and we unloaded
the books near it. We were just about finished, and a woman came out
of the store at the back, yelling at us, "You can't do that!". We
jumped in the car and took off!

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:06:57 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:01:35 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> >On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> >>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> >>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
> >>>>>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
> >>>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
> >>>>>>>> Into
> >>>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
> >>>>>>>> examples,
> >>>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
> >>>>>>>> in my view.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
> >>>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
> >>>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
> >>>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
> >>>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
> >>>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
> >>>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
> >>>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
> >>>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
> >>>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
> >>>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
> >>>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
> >>>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HTH and HAND.
> >>>>
> >>>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
> >>>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
> >>>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
> >>>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
> >>>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
> >>>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
> >>>>
> >>>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
> >>>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
> >>>> result.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
> >>>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
> >>>> first edition is available for just $6.)
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
> >>>
> >>> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, thank you for sending me that.
> >>
> >> When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
> >> reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
> >> which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
> >> because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
> >> what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
> >>
> >> Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
> >> -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
> >> presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
> >> deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
> >> jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
> >> to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
> >>
> >
> >I see I left out an important word:
> >
> >> So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
> >> present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
> >> higher, maybe even above price.
> I think I saw that the novel has a 1951 copyright date. My mother
> read a lot, and I can imagine her reading this book, seeing the verse
> and copying it. But she wouldn't have had the sophistication to note
> the source.
>
> I sent my sister the screenshot of the page, and she congratulated me
> for "good hunting".
>
> She wouldn't appreciate the book, and I have far too many as it is.
>
> My housekeeper and I took a box of books to Goodwill across the border
> recently. The sign said, "Donations at the back of the store". When
> we drove around to the back, the sign said, "No donations on Tuesdays"
> (it was Tuesday). But there was a large conex there, and we unloaded
> the books near it. We were just about finished, and a woman came out
> of the store at the back, yelling at us, "You can't do that!". We
> jumped in the car and took off!

You go to jail in Mexico, you stay in jail in Mexico

On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 15:17:08 -0700 (PDT), NancyGene
<nancygene.andjayme@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:06:57 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:01:35 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
>> >> On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>> >>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>> >>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>> >>>>>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>> >>>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
>> >>>>>>>> Into
>> >>>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>> >>>>>>>> examples,
>> >>>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>> >>>>>>>> in my view.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>> >>>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
>> >>>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>> >>>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>> >>>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>> >>>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>> >>>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>> >>>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>> >>>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>> >>>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
>> >>>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>> >>>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>> >>>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> HTH and HAND.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
>> >>>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>> >>>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>> >>>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>> >>>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>> >>>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>> >>>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
>> >>>> result.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>> >>>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>> >>>> first edition is available for just $6.)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
>> >>>
>> >>> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Well, thank you for sending me that.
>> >>
>> >> When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
>> >> reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
>> >> which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
>> >> because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
>> >> what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
>> >>
>> >> Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
>> >> -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
>> >> presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
>> >> deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
>> >> jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
>> >> to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
>> >>
>> >
>> >I see I left out an important word:
>> >
>> >> So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
>> >> present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
>> >> higher, maybe even above price.
>> I think I saw that the novel has a 1951 copyright date. My mother
>> read a lot, and I can imagine her reading this book, seeing the verse
>> and copying it. But she wouldn't have had the sophistication to note
>> the source.
>>
>> I sent my sister the screenshot of the page, and she congratulated me
>> for "good hunting".
>>
>> She wouldn't appreciate the book, and I have far too many as it is.
>>
>> My housekeeper and I took a box of books to Goodwill across the border
>> recently. The sign said, "Donations at the back of the store". When
>> we drove around to the back, the sign said, "No donations on Tuesdays"
>> (it was Tuesday). But there was a large conex there, and we unloaded
>> the books near it. We were just about finished, and a woman came out
>> of the store at the back, yelling at us, "You can't do that!". We
>> jumped in the car and took off!
>
>You go to jail in Mexico, you stay in jail in Mexico

<*BZZZZ*> I live in Mexico. We crossed the border to go to Goodwill
in Eastlake, Chula Vista, San Diego.

Years ago, I gave a Mexican cop a Porsche Turbo. I kid you not. It
is a long story. The police are okay in these parts.

On 2022-10-15 6:17 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:06:57 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:01:35 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
>>>> On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>>>>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>>>>>>>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>>>>>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
>>>>>>>>>> Into
>>>>>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>>>>>>>>>> examples,
>>>>>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>>>>>>>>>> in my view.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>>>>>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
>>>>>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>>>>>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>>>>>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>>>>>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>>>>>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>>>>>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>>>>>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>>>>>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
>>>>>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>>>>>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>>>>>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
>>>>>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>>>>>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>>>>>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>>>>>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>>>>>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>>>>>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
>>>>>> result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>>>>>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>>>>>> first edition is available for just $6.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
>>>>>
>>>>> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, thank you for sending me that.
>>>>
>>>> When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
>>>> reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
>>>> which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
>>>> because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
>>>> what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
>>>>
>>>> Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
>>>> -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
>>>> presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
>>>> deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
>>>> jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
>>>> to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I see I left out an important word:
>>>
>>>> So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
>>>> present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
>>>> higher, maybe even above price.
>> I think I saw that the novel has a 1951 copyright date. My mother
>> read a lot, and I can imagine her reading this book, seeing the verse
>> and copying it. But she wouldn't have had the sophistication to note
>> the source.
>>
>> I sent my sister the screenshot of the page, and she congratulated me
>> for "good hunting".
>>
>> She wouldn't appreciate the book, and I have far too many as it is.
>>
>> My housekeeper and I took a box of books to Goodwill across the border
>> recently. The sign said, "Donations at the back of the store". When
>> we drove around to the back, the sign said, "No donations on Tuesdays"
>> (it was Tuesday). But there was a large conex there, and we unloaded
>> the books near it. We were just about finished, and a woman came out
>> of the store at the back, yelling at us, "You can't do that!". We
>> jumped in the car and took off!
>
> You go to jail in Mexico, you stay in jail in Mexico

Only "Professor NancyGene" would assume that the clerks in Mexican
second-hand stores speak English.

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:01:41 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-15 6:17 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:06:57 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:01:35 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> >> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> >>>>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
> >>>>>>>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
> >>>>>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
> >>>>>>>>>> Into
> >>>>>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
> >>>>>>>>>> examples,
> >>>>>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
> >>>>>>>>>> in my view.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
> >>>>>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
> >>>>>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
> >>>>>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
> >>>>>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
> >>>>>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
> >>>>>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
> >>>>>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
> >>>>>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
> >>>>>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
> >>>>>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
> >>>>>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
> >>>>>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
> >>>>>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
> >>>>>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
> >>>>>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
> >>>>>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
> >>>>>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
> >>>>>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
> >>>>>> result.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
> >>>>>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
> >>>>>> first edition is available for just $6.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, thank you for sending me that.
> >>>>
> >>>> When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
> >>>> reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
> >>>> which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
> >>>> because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
> >>>> what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
> >>>> -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
> >>>> presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
> >>>> deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
> >>>> jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
> >>>> to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I see I left out an important word:
> >>>
> >>>> So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
> >>>> present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
> >>>> higher, maybe even above price.
> >> I think I saw that the novel has a 1951 copyright date. My mother
> >> read a lot, and I can imagine her reading this book, seeing the verse
> >> and copying it. But she wouldn't have had the sophistication to note
> >> the source.
> >>
> >> I sent my sister the screenshot of the page, and she congratulated me
> >> for "good hunting".
> >>
> >> She wouldn't appreciate the book, and I have far too many as it is.
> >>
> >> My housekeeper and I took a box of books to Goodwill across the border
> >> recently. The sign said, "Donations at the back of the store". When
> >> we drove around to the back, the sign said, "No donations on Tuesdays"
> >> (it was Tuesday). But there was a large conex there, and we unloaded
> >> the books near it. We were just about finished, and a woman came out
> >> of the store at the back, yelling at us, "You can't do that!". We
> >> jumped in the car and took off!
> >
> > You go to jail in Mexico, you stay in jail in Mexico
> Only "Professor NancyGene" would assume that the clerks in Mexican
> second-hand stores speak English.
How many times have you visited Mexico, George Dance? We have spent some vacation time in Mexico City (many people there speak English, especially in the shops). We have also been across the border (George Dance, we know that you cannot cross borders) many times at Nogales and Tijuana. The shopkeepers speak English. The people in the restaurants speak English.

George Dance, please try driving across the border (at any border town) into Mexico in your own car. Get in an accident. Bring your gun and your marijuana. See what happens.

On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:21:53 -0700 (PDT), NancyGene
<nancygene.andjayme@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:01:41 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-10-15 6:17 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
>> > On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:06:57 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:01:35 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>> >> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
>> >>>> On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>> >>>>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>> >>>>>>>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>> >>>>>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
>> >>>>>>>>>> Into
>> >>>>>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>> >>>>>>>>>> examples,
>> >>>>>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>> >>>>>>>>>> in my view.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>> >>>>>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
>> >>>>>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>> >>>>>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>> >>>>>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>> >>>>>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>> >>>>>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>> >>>>>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>> >>>>>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>> >>>>>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
>> >>>>>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>> >>>>>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>> >>>>>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
>> >>>>>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>> >>>>>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>> >>>>>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>> >>>>>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>> >>>>>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>> >>>>>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
>> >>>>>> result.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>> >>>>>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>> >>>>>> first edition is available for just $6.)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Well, thank you for sending me that.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
>> >>>> reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
>> >>>> which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
>> >>>> because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
>> >>>> what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
>> >>>> -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
>> >>>> presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
>> >>>> deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
>> >>>> jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
>> >>>> to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I see I left out an important word:
>> >>>
>> >>>> So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
>> >>>> present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
>> >>>> higher, maybe even above price.
>> >> I think I saw that the novel has a 1951 copyright date. My mother
>> >> read a lot, and I can imagine her reading this book, seeing the verse
>> >> and copying it. But she wouldn't have had the sophistication to note
>> >> the source.
>> >>
>> >> I sent my sister the screenshot of the page, and she congratulated me
>> >> for "good hunting".
>> >>
>> >> She wouldn't appreciate the book, and I have far too many as it is.
>> >>
>> >> My housekeeper and I took a box of books to Goodwill across the border
>> >> recently. The sign said, "Donations at the back of the store". When
>> >> we drove around to the back, the sign said, "No donations on Tuesdays"
>> >> (it was Tuesday). But there was a large conex there, and we unloaded
>> >> the books near it. We were just about finished, and a woman came out
>> >> of the store at the back, yelling at us, "You can't do that!". We
>> >> jumped in the car and took off!
>> >
>> > You go to jail in Mexico, you stay in jail in Mexico
>> Only "Professor NancyGene" would assume that the clerks in Mexican
>> second-hand stores speak English.
>How many times have you visited Mexico, George Dance? We have spent some vacation time in Mexico City (many people there speak English, especially in the shops). We have also been across the border (George Dance, we know that you cannot cross borders) many times at Nogales and Tijuana. The shopkeepers speak English. The people in the restaurants speak English.
>
>George Dance, please try driving across the border (at any border town) into Mexico in your own car. Get in an accident. Bring your gun and your marijuana. See what happens.

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:01:35 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> > On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> >> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> >>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
> >>>>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
> >>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
> >>>>>>> Into
> >>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
> >>>>>>> examples,
> >>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
> >>>>>>> in my view.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
> >>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
> >>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
> >>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
> >>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
> >>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
> >>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
> >>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
> >>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
> >>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
> >>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
> >>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written..
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
> >>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
> >>>>
> >>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
> >>>>
> >>>> HTH and HAND.
> >>>
> >>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
> >>>
> >>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
> >>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
> >>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
> >>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
> >>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
> >>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
> >>>
> >>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
> >>>
> >>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
> >>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
> >>> result.
> >>>
> >>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
> >>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
> >>> first edition is available for just $6.)
> >>>
> >>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
> >>
> >>
> >> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
> >>
> >> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
> >>
> >
> > Well, thank you for sending me that.
> >
> > When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
> > reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
> > which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
> > because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
> > what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
> >
> > Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
> > -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
> > presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
> > deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
> > jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
> > to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
> >
> I see I left out an important word:
> > So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
> > present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
> > higher, maybe even above price.

Good that Howard Spring can now be attributed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Spring

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 8:22:19 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:21:53 -0700 (PDT), NancyGene
> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:01:41 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-15 6:17 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:06:57 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:01:35 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> >> >> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> >> >>>> On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> >> >>>>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
> >> >>>>>>>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
> >> >>>>>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Into
> >> >>>>>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
> >> >>>>>>>>>> examples,
> >> >>>>>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
> >> >>>>>>>>>> in my view.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
> >> >>>>>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
> >> >>>>>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
> >> >>>>>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
> >> >>>>>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
> >> >>>>>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
> >> >>>>>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
> >> >>>>>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
> >> >>>>>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
> >> >>>>>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
> >> >>>>>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
> >> >>>>>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
> >> >>>>>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
> >> >>>>>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
> >> >>>>>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
> >> >>>>>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
> >> >>>>>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
> >> >>>>>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
> >> >>>>>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
> >> >>>>>> result.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
> >> >>>>>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
> >> >>>>>> first edition is available for just $6.)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Well, thank you for sending me that.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
> >> >>>> reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
> >> >>>> which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
> >> >>>> because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
> >> >>>> what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
> >> >>>> -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
> >> >>>> presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
> >> >>>> deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
> >> >>>> jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
> >> >>>> to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I see I left out an important word:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
> >> >>>> present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
> >> >>>> higher, maybe even above price.
> >> >> I think I saw that the novel has a 1951 copyright date. My mother
> >> >> read a lot, and I can imagine her reading this book, seeing the verse
> >> >> and copying it. But she wouldn't have had the sophistication to note
> >> >> the source.
> >> >>
> >> >> I sent my sister the screenshot of the page, and she congratulated me
> >> >> for "good hunting".
> >> >>
> >> >> She wouldn't appreciate the book, and I have far too many as it is.
> >> >>
> >> >> My housekeeper and I took a box of books to Goodwill across the border
> >> >> recently. The sign said, "Donations at the back of the store". When
> >> >> we drove around to the back, the sign said, "No donations on Tuesdays"
> >> >> (it was Tuesday). But there was a large conex there, and we unloaded
> >> >> the books near it. We were just about finished, and a woman came out
> >> >> of the store at the back, yelling at us, "You can't do that!". We
> >> >> jumped in the car and took off!
> >> >
> >> > You go to jail in Mexico, you stay in jail in Mexico
> >> Only "Professor NancyGene" would assume that the clerks in Mexican
> >> second-hand stores speak English.
> >How many times have you visited Mexico, George Dance? We have spent some vacation time in Mexico City (many people there speak English, especially in the shops). We have also been across the border (George Dance, we know that you cannot cross borders) many times at Nogales and Tijuana. The shopkeepers speak English. The people in the restaurants speak English.
> >
> >George Dance, please try driving across the border (at any border town) into Mexico in your own car. Get in an accident. Bring your gun and your marijuana. See what happens.
> I live sixty miles south of the border. I can't remember finding a
> store clerk who speaks English here or near Tecate where I cross the
> border, but there is usually somebody around who can translate. Don't
> know about Tijuana as I avoid the place.
>
> I have been in a couple of accidents. Years ago, a car came flying
> out of the mountain while it was raining and fish-tailed across the
> road a few miles from here. It caught the right front panel of my
> S-Type Jaguar. They were government people in the car, too, going to
> a meeting. No problems, tow truck and police were called; they paid
> for everything, and they were very concerned about me.
>
> The other time was when a double tractor-trailer moved into my lane
> without checking. It bashed the right outside rear-view mirror. The
> driver paid me on the spot, and his payment turned out to be over
> twice what it cost to fix.
>
> If you are polite and well-mannered, you won't have any problems in
> Mexico. Not a good idea to mess around with drugs. Or rather, don't
> buy drugs here.

On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 03:25:17 -0700 (PDT), Spam-I-Am
<hieronymous707@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 8:22:19 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:21:53 -0700 (PDT), NancyGene
>> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:01:41 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> On 2022-10-15 6:17 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
>> >> > On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:06:57 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:01:35 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>> >> >> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
>> >> >>>> On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
>> >> >>>>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
>> >> >>>>>>>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Into
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> examples,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> in my view.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
>> >> >>>>>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
>> >> >>>>>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
>> >> >>>>>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
>> >> >>>>>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
>> >> >>>>>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
>> >> >>>>>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
>> >> >>>>>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
>> >> >>>>>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
>> >> >>>>>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
>> >> >>>>>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
>> >> >>>>>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
>> >> >>>>>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
>> >> >>>>>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
>> >> >>>>>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
>> >> >>>>>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
>> >> >>>>>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ...
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
>> >> >>>>>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
>> >> >>>>>> result.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
>> >> >>>>>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
>> >> >>>>>> first edition is available for just $6.)
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Well, thank you for sending me that.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
>> >> >>>> reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
>> >> >>>> which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
>> >> >>>> because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
>> >> >>>> what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
>> >> >>>> -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
>> >> >>>> presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
>> >> >>>> deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
>> >> >>>> jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
>> >> >>>> to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I see I left out an important word:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
>> >> >>>> present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
>> >> >>>> higher, maybe even above price.
>> >> >> I think I saw that the novel has a 1951 copyright date. My mother
>> >> >> read a lot, and I can imagine her reading this book, seeing the verse
>> >> >> and copying it. But she wouldn't have had the sophistication to note
>> >> >> the source.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I sent my sister the screenshot of the page, and she congratulated me
>> >> >> for "good hunting".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> She wouldn't appreciate the book, and I have far too many as it is.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My housekeeper and I took a box of books to Goodwill across the border
>> >> >> recently. The sign said, "Donations at the back of the store". When
>> >> >> we drove around to the back, the sign said, "No donations on Tuesdays"
>> >> >> (it was Tuesday). But there was a large conex there, and we unloaded
>> >> >> the books near it. We were just about finished, and a woman came out
>> >> >> of the store at the back, yelling at us, "You can't do that!". We
>> >> >> jumped in the car and took off!
>> >> >
>> >> > You go to jail in Mexico, you stay in jail in Mexico
>> >> Only "Professor NancyGene" would assume that the clerks in Mexican
>> >> second-hand stores speak English.
>> >How many times have you visited Mexico, George Dance? We have spent some vacation time in Mexico City (many people there speak English, especially in the shops). We have also been across the border (George Dance, we know that you cannot cross borders) many times at Nogales and Tijuana. The shopkeepers speak English. The people in the restaurants speak English.
>> >
>> >George Dance, please try driving across the border (at any border town) into Mexico in your own car. Get in an accident. Bring your gun and your marijuana. See what happens.
>> I live sixty miles south of the border. I can't remember finding a
>> store clerk who speaks English here or near Tecate where I cross the
>> border, but there is usually somebody around who can translate. Don't
>> know about Tijuana as I avoid the place.
>>
>> I have been in a couple of accidents. Years ago, a car came flying
>> out of the mountain while it was raining and fish-tailed across the
>> road a few miles from here. It caught the right front panel of my
>> S-Type Jaguar. They were government people in the car, too, going to
>> a meeting. No problems, tow truck and police were called; they paid
>> for everything, and they were very concerned about me.
>>
>> The other time was when a double tractor-trailer moved into my lane
>> without checking. It bashed the right outside rear-view mirror. The
>> driver paid me on the spot, and his payment turned out to be over
>> twice what it cost to fix.
>>
>> If you are polite and well-mannered, you won't have any problems in
>> Mexico. Not a good idea to mess around with drugs. Or rather, don't
>> buy drugs here.
>
>If you are polite and well mannered,
>you won’t have any problems in most
>places, but where’s the fun in that?

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 11:50:42 AM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 03:25:17 -0700 (PDT), Spam-I-Am
> <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 8:22:19 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 16:21:53 -0700 (PDT), NancyGene
> >> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:01:41 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >> On 2022-10-15 6:17 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
> >> >> > On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:06:57 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:01:35 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> >> >> >> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> On 2022-10-15 4:46 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> >> >> >>>> On 2022-10-15 12:43 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:48:16 -0400, "George J. Dance"
> >> >> >>>>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> On 2022-10-14 5:05 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Coco DeSockmonkey
> >> >> >>>>>>>> <cocodeso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> How descriptive of a distorted memory is ?a summer haze? relative to
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> ?the bloom of an Autumn evening that rubs the contours of things
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Into
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> a false tenderness?? 3 words vs. 16. If it?s supposed to be two
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> examples,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> then the two examples ?feel? textually and descriptively unbalanced
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> in my view.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> I find it very descriptive of a distorted memory: a haze is like a
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> thin fog or mist that slightly distorts our view. Our memories of
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> "Summer" (the prime of life) are slightly distorted -- as if
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> enveloped in a Summer haze. How it relates to the bloom of an Autumn
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> evening becomes clear when you look on "Summer" and "Autumn" as
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> symbolic seasons of life: in our prime, we blur the proverbial edges
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> -- we are happy and healthy and imagine that we will continue to be
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> so for many years to come; in Autumn, we are no longer in our prime,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> but look back on it with rose colored glasses (the haze now becomes
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> further distorted by sentiment and nostalgia). It's supposed to be
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> two related, and successive, examples -- and it works perfectly IMO.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> It appears to be a fragment from a longer poem, and I'd love to read
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> it in full, as I think that the fragment is extremely well-written.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> I have been looking for the source for decades - putting bits and
> >> >> >>>>>>>> pieces of the poem into Google, but I can't even come close.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Maybe my mother wrote it, but I have no way of knowing.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> interesting, have you tried searching /Google Books/?
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Sometimes it brings up different results.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Will, you're a genius. Once again, you've solved the puzzle.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> The Houses in Between: A Novel - Page 398 books.google.ca › books
> >> >> >>>>>> Howard Spring · 1951 · ?Snippet view
> >> >> >>>>>> FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 398
> >> >> >>>>>> We look back through the years and glibly say it was thus and thus ; but
> >> >> >>>>>> the backward glimpse can be as distorting as summer haze or the bloom of
> >> >> >>>>>> an autumn evening that rubs the contours of things into a ....
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=backward+glance+haze+summer+autumn+bloom&sxsrf=ALiCzsZRkCb8D4XwSKbOv4D36vT6XQlgXg:1665797483248&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxIOai-H6AhU3EVkFHco8AMgQ_AUoAXoECAIQCw&biw=994&bih=429&dpr=1.38
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> That's pretty much, but not quite, definitive -- because there's no
> >> >> >>>>>> preview, I can't actually read the page on google, just the search
> >> >> >>>>>> result.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Mack, though, if he's wants, can buy a copy of the book online from
> >> >> >>>>>> Amazon, and that should do it for him. (A used copy of the hardcover
> >> >> >>>>>> first edition is available for just $6.)
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/houses-between-novel-Howard-Spring/dp/B0006ASSLC
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> https://ibb.co/mtCWRQV
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> (Save to desktop and enlarge if you need to)
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Well, thank you for sending me that.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> When you mentioned you could get first editions for $4, I was going to
> >> >> >>>> reply that you should buy two, one for yourself and one for your sister;
> >> >> >>>> which would cover your Christmas shopping for her. I didn't send it,
> >> >> >>>> because I thought you might see it as flippant, or even as telling you
> >> >> >>>> what to do. It was just a thought, not worth mentioning.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Then I read the page you sent me. The speaker's story of the two youths
> >> >> >>>> -- Richard, still a "boy", and Julian, now a "man" -- and their two
> >> >> >>>> presents -- Julian's present to Richard, which "came out of something
> >> >> >>>> deep in Julian," and Richard's present to the speaker, the beautiful
> >> >> >>>> jade which came "out of nothing deeper than Richard's purse" -- seemed
> >> >> >>>> to be reinforcing what I wanted to suggest.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I see I left out an important word:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> So I'll make the suggestion. A $4.00 used book may look like a cheap
> >> >> >>>> present; but as a memento of your [mother], I'd suspect its value to be far
> >> >> >>>> higher, maybe even above price.
> >> >> >> I think I saw that the novel has a 1951 copyright date. My mother
> >> >> >> read a lot, and I can imagine her reading this book, seeing the verse
> >> >> >> and copying it. But she wouldn't have had the sophistication to note
> >> >> >> the source.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I sent my sister the screenshot of the page, and she congratulated me
> >> >> >> for "good hunting".
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> She wouldn't appreciate the book, and I have far too many as it is.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> My housekeeper and I took a box of books to Goodwill across the border
> >> >> >> recently. The sign said, "Donations at the back of the store". When
> >> >> >> we drove around to the back, the sign said, "No donations on Tuesdays"
> >> >> >> (it was Tuesday). But there was a large conex there, and we unloaded
> >> >> >> the books near it. We were just about finished, and a woman came out
> >> >> >> of the store at the back, yelling at us, "You can't do that!". We
> >> >> >> jumped in the car and took off!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You go to jail in Mexico, you stay in jail in Mexico
> >> >> Only "Professor NancyGene" would assume that the clerks in Mexican
> >> >> second-hand stores speak English.
> >> >How many times have you visited Mexico, George Dance? We have spent some vacation time in Mexico City (many people there speak English, especially in the shops). We have also been across the border (George Dance, we know that you cannot cross borders) many times at Nogales and Tijuana. The shopkeepers speak English. The people in the restaurants speak English.
> >> >
> >> >George Dance, please try driving across the border (at any border town) into Mexico in your own car. Get in an accident. Bring your gun and your marijuana. See what happens.
> >> I live sixty miles south of the border. I can't remember finding a
> >> store clerk who speaks English here or near Tecate where I cross the
> >> border, but there is usually somebody around who can translate. Don't
> >> know about Tijuana as I avoid the place.
> >>
> >> I have been in a couple of accidents. Years ago, a car came flying
> >> out of the mountain while it was raining and fish-tailed across the
> >> road a few miles from here. It caught the right front panel of my
> >> S-Type Jaguar. They were government people in the car, too, going to
> >> a meeting. No problems, tow truck and police were called; they paid
> >> for everything, and they were very concerned about me.
> >>
> >> The other time was when a double tractor-trailer moved into my lane
> >> without checking. It bashed the right outside rear-view mirror. The
> >> driver paid me on the spot, and his payment turned out to be over
> >> twice what it cost to fix.
> >>
> >> If you are polite and well-mannered, you won't have any problems in
> >> Mexico. Not a good idea to mess around with drugs. Or rather, don't
> >> buy drugs here.
> >
> >If you are polite and well mannered,
> >you won’t have any problems in most
> >places, but where’s the fun in that?
> It is not fun to ruffle somebody's feathers especially in a foreign
> country. "The Ugly American" is still in the consciousness of many
> foreigners. You never know what can happen.
>
> Mexico has gotten a bad rap over the years because of drugs and crime.