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Re: Charles Bukowski

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 by: Zod - Sun, 5 Feb 2023 21:35 UTC

On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 6:28:58 PM UTC-4, Your Increeasingly Loving Jinn wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message news:67d03$46a65e4f$18d62320$20...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>
> >> > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
> :)
> >>
> >> Hey, I never said you were copying Bukowski; a glance at dates should
> >> be enough to dispel that idea. What I said is that you wrote in the
> >> same Naturalistic style.
> There are numerous court cases involving artistic style,
> but only related to graphic art that has an easily discernable style.
> >>
> >> That Naturalism or "Realism" already looked dominant in cntemporary
> >> poetry in the early 70s (here in Canada, anyway). Bukowski's not its
> >> inventor, just an exemplar.
> Radio DJs make the poets look sick.
> >
> > Ah, okay... I was really wondering where Vera came to be compared to Buk...
> > never really saw her as the Barfly type...
> Ah, okay...
> AJ
> >
> > --
> > "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
> > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
> >
> > "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Is this Corey...?

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 7 Feb 2023 00:18 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 6:28:58 PM UTC-4, Your Increeasingly Loving Jinn wrote:
>> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message news:67d03$46a65e4f$18d62320$20...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>
>> >> > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
>> :)
>> >>
>> >> Hey, I never said you were copying Bukowski; a glance at dates should
>> >> be enough to dispel that idea. What I said is that you wrote in the
>> >> same Naturalistic style.
>> There are numerous court cases involving artistic style,
>> but only related to graphic art that has an easily discernable style.
>> >>
>> >> That Naturalism or "Realism" already looked dominant in cntemporary
>> >> poetry in the early 70s (here in Canada, anyway). Bukowski's not its
>> >> inventor, just an exemplar.
>> Radio DJs make the poets look sick.
>> >
>> > Ah, okay... I was really wondering where Vera came to be compared to Buk...
>> > never really saw her as the Barfly type...
>> Ah, okay...
>> AJ
>> >
>> > --
>> > "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
>> > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>> >
>> > "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

> Is this Corey...?

Tom Bishop.

Re: Charles Bukowski

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 by: General-Zod - Mon, 13 Feb 2023 22:03 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:

>> On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 6:28:58 PM UTC-4, Your Increeasingly Loving Jinn wrote:
>>> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message news:67d03$46a65e4f$18d62320$20...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>
>>> >> > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
>>> :)
>>> >>
>>> >> Hey, I never said you were copying Bukowski; a glance at dates should
>>> >> be enough to dispel that idea. What I said is that you wrote in the
>>> >> same Naturalistic style.
>>> There are numerous court cases involving artistic style,
>>> but only related to graphic art that has an easily discernable style.
>>> >>
>>> >> That Naturalism or "Realism" already looked dominant in cntemporary
>>> >> poetry in the early 70s (here in Canada, anyway). Bukowski's not its
>>> >> inventor, just an exemplar.
>>> Radio DJs make the poets look sick.
>>> >
>>> > Ah, okay... I was really wondering where Vera came to be compared to Buk...
>>> > never really saw her as the Barfly type...
>>> Ah, okay...
>>> AJ
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
>>> > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>>> >
>>> > "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>>> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

>> Is this Corey...?

> Tom Bishop.

Heard of that fellow but never did meet him....

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 by: W-Dockery - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:13 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Zod wrote:

>>> On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 6:28:58 PM UTC-4, Your Increeasingly Loving Jinn wrote:
>>>> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message news:67d03$46a65e4f$18d62320$20...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>>
>>>> >> > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
>>>> :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hey, I never said you were copying Bukowski; a glance at dates should
>>>> >> be enough to dispel that idea. What I said is that you wrote in the
>>>> >> same Naturalistic style.
>>>> There are numerous court cases involving artistic style,
>>>> but only related to graphic art that has an easily discernable style.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That Naturalism or "Realism" already looked dominant in cntemporary
>>>> >> poetry in the early 70s (here in Canada, anyway). Bukowski's not its
>>>> >> inventor, just an exemplar.
>>>> Radio DJs make the poets look sick.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ah, okay... I was really wondering where Vera came to be compared to Buk...
>>>> > never really saw her as the Barfly type...
>>>> Ah, okay...
>>>> AJ
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
>>>> > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>>>> >
>>>> > "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>>>> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

>>> Is this Corey...?

>> Tom Bishop.

> Heard of that fellow but never did meet him....

Tom passed away about fifteen years ago.

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 by: General-Zod - Sun, 19 Feb 2023 21:30 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

>>> Zod wrote:

>>>> On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 6:28:58 PM UTC-4, Your Increeasingly Loving Jinn wrote:
>>>>> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message news:67d03$46a65e4f$18d62320$20...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>>>
>>>>> >> > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
>>>>> :)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hey, I never said you were copying Bukowski; a glance at dates should
>>>>> >> be enough to dispel that idea. What I said is that you wrote in the
>>>>> >> same Naturalistic style.
>>>>> There are numerous court cases involving artistic style,
>>>>> but only related to graphic art that has an easily discernable style.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> That Naturalism or "Realism" already looked dominant in cntemporary
>>>>> >> poetry in the early 70s (here in Canada, anyway). Bukowski's not its
>>>>> >> inventor, just an exemplar.
>>>>> Radio DJs make the poets look sick.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ah, okay... I was really wondering where Vera came to be compared to Buk...
>>>>> > never really saw her as the Barfly type...
>>>>> Ah, okay...
>>>>> AJ
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
>>>>> > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>>>>> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

>>>> Is this Corey...?

>>> Tom Bishop.

>> Heard of that fellow but never did meet him....

> Tom passed away about fifteen years ago.

Sorry to hear that.... what happened to him...?

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 21 Feb 2023 13:46 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 6:28:58 PM UTC-4, Your Increeasingly Loving Jinn wrote:
>> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message news:67d03$46a65e4f$18d62320$20...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>
>> >> > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
>> :)
>> >>
>> >> Hey, I never said you were copying Bukowski; a glance at dates should
>> >> be enough to dispel that idea. What I said is that you wrote in the
>> >> same Naturalistic style.
>> There are numerous court cases involving artistic style,
>> but only related to graphic art that has an easily discernable style.
>> >>
>> >> That Naturalism or "Realism" already looked dominant in cntemporary
>> >> poetry in the early 70s (here in Canada, anyway). Bukowski's not its
>> >> inventor, just an exemplar.
>> Radio DJs make the poets look sick.
>> >
>> > Ah, okay... I was really wondering where Vera came to be compared to Buk...
>> > never really saw her as the Barfly type...
>> Ah, okay...
>> AJ
>> >
>> > --
>> > "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
>> > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>> >
>> > "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

> Is this Corey...?

Again, Tom Bishop, rumored to have committed suicide.

R.I.P.

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 by: Zod - Tue, 21 Feb 2023 21:34 UTC

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:50:13 AM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> Zod wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 6:28:58 PM UTC-4, Your Increeasingly Loving Jinn wrote:
> >> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message news:67d03$46a65e4f$18d62320$20...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>
> >> >> Hey, I never said you were copying Bukowski; a glance at dates should
> >> >> be enough to dispel that idea. What I said is that you wrote in the
> >> >> same Naturalistic style.
> >> There are numerous court cases involving artistic style,
> >> but only related to graphic art that has an easily discernable style.
> >> >>
> >> >> That Naturalism or "Realism" already looked dominant in cntemporary
> >> >> poetry in the early 70s (here in Canada, anyway). Bukowski's not its
> >> >> inventor, just an exemplar.
> >> Radio DJs make the poets look sick.
> >> >
> >> > Ah, okay... I was really wondering where Vera came to be compared to Buk...
> >> > never really saw her as the Barfly type...
> >> Ah, okay...
> >> AJ
>
> > Is this Corey...?
> Again, Tom Bishop, rumored to have committed suicide.
>
> R.I.P.

Oh, sad... so fucking sad....

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 by: W.Dockery - Wed, 22 Feb 2023 18:30 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 8:50:13 AM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>> Zod wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 6:28:58 PM UTC-4, Your Increeasingly Loving Jinn wrote:
>> >> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message news:67d03$46a65e4f$18d62320$20...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>
>> >> >> Hey, I never said you were copying Bukowski; a glance at dates should
>> >> >> be enough to dispel that idea. What I said is that you wrote in the
>> >> >> same Naturalistic style.
>> >> There are numerous court cases involving artistic style,
>> >> but only related to graphic art that has an easily discernable style.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That Naturalism or "Realism" already looked dominant in cntemporary
>> >> >> poetry in the early 70s (here in Canada, anyway). Bukowski's not its
>> >> >> inventor, just an exemplar.
>> >> Radio DJs make the poets look sick.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ah, okay... I was really wondering where Vera came to be compared to Buk...
>> >> > never really saw her as the Barfly type...
>> >> Ah, okay...
>> >> AJ
>>
>> > Is this Corey...?
>> Again, Tom Bishop, rumored to have committed suicide.
>>
>> R.I.P.

> Oh, sad... so fucking sad....

Tom Bishop did leave some interesting poetry, archived here under various names.

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 by: W.Dockery - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:00 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Zod wrote:

>>> On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 6:28:58 PM UTC-4, Your Increeasingly Loving Jinn wrote:
>>>> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message news:67d03$46a65e4f$18d62320$20...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>>
>>>> >> > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
>>>> :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hey, I never said you were copying Bukowski; a glance at dates should
>>>> >> be enough to dispel that idea. What I said is that you wrote in the
>>>> >> same Naturalistic style.
>>>> There are numerous court cases involving artistic style,
>>>> but only related to graphic art that has an easily discernable style.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That Naturalism or "Realism" already looked dominant in cntemporary
>>>> >> poetry in the early 70s (here in Canada, anyway). Bukowski's not its
>>>> >> inventor, just an exemplar.
>>>> Radio DJs make the poets look sick.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ah, okay... I was really wondering where Vera came to be compared to Buk...
>>>> > never really saw her as the Barfly type...
>>>> Ah, okay...
>>>> AJ
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
>>>> > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>>>> >
>>>> > "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>>>> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

>>> Is this Corey...?

>> Tom Bishop.

> Heard of that fellow but never did meet him....

I spoke with him on the phone a few times, a good guy.

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 by: General-Zod - Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:56 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:

>> On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 6:28:58 PM UTC-4, Your Increeasingly Loving Jinn wrote:
>>> "Will Dockery" <will.d...@knology.net> wrote in message news:67d03$46a65e4f$18d62320$20...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>
>>> >> > At least I should know whose style I'm copying!
>>> :)
>>> >>
>>> >> Hey, I never said you were copying Bukowski; a glance at dates should
>>> >> be enough to dispel that idea. What I said is that you wrote in the
>>> >> same Naturalistic style.
>>> There are numerous court cases involving artistic style,
>>> but only related to graphic art that has an easily discernable style.
>>> >>
>>> >> That Naturalism or "Realism" already looked dominant in cntemporary
>>> >> poetry in the early 70s (here in Canada, anyway). Bukowski's not its
>>> >> inventor, just an exemplar.
>>> Radio DJs make the poets look sick.
>>> >
>>> > Ah, okay... I was really wondering where Vera came to be compared to Buk...
>>> > never really saw her as the Barfly type...
>>> Ah, okay...
>>> AJ
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > "God's Toybox" by Dockery-Beck:
>>> > http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>>> >
>>> > "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>>> > http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

>> Is this Corey...?

> Tom Bishop.

Oh okay....

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