On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:10:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:20:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:18:53 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:14:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:10:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 5:17:03 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:30:24 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > > > > > >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > > > > > >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > > > > > >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > > > > > >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > > > > > >> Versers".
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > > > > > >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > > > > > >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > > > > > >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > > > > > >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > > > > > >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > > > > > >> beyond...
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > > > > > >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > > > > > >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Richard Aldington
> > > > > > > >> Amy Lowell
> > > > > > > >> Vachel Lindsay
> > > > > > > >> Harry Kemp
> > > > > > > >> Donald Evans
> > > > > > > >> Allen Norton
> > > > > > > >> Louise Norton
> > > > > > > >> H.D.
> > > > > > > >> Mina Loy
> > > > > > > >> William Carlos Williams
> > > > > > > >> Alfred Kreymborg
> > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> And so it goes... so it shall ever be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Interesting read....
> > > > > > > Yes, I need to revisit the book soon.
> > > > > > I would like to have a read as well....
> > > > > Learning how to read
> > > > That's always a good start.
> > > So what's
> > I've probably read as much or more than you have, actually.
> Comic books don't count

I wasn't counting them.

On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:18:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:10:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:20:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:18:53 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:14:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:10:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 5:17:03 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:30:24 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > > > > > > >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > > > > > > >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > > > > > > >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > > > > > > >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > > > > > > >> Versers".
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > > > > > > >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > > > > > > >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > > > > > > >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > > > > > > >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > > > > > > >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > > > > > > >> beyond...
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > > > > > > >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > > > > > > >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Richard Aldington
> > > > > > > > >> Amy Lowell
> > > > > > > > >> Vachel Lindsay
> > > > > > > > >> Harry Kemp
> > > > > > > > >> Donald Evans
> > > > > > > > >> Allen Norton
> > > > > > > > >> Louise Norton
> > > > > > > > >> H.D.
> > > > > > > > >> Mina Loy
> > > > > > > > >> William Carlos Williams
> > > > > > > > >> Alfred Kreymborg
> > > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> And so it goes... so it shall ever be.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Interesting read....
> > > > > > > > Yes, I need to revisit the book soon.
> > > > > > > I would like to have a read as well....
> > > > > > Learning how to read
> > > > > That's always a good start.
> > > > So what's
> > > I've probably read as much or more than you have, actually.
> > Comic books don't count
> I wasn't counting them.

You can't compose three complete and/or intelligible sentences in a row. You cannot possibly have understood any book written above a Second Grade level.

On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:25:17 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:18:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:10:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:20:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:18:53 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:14:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:10:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 5:17:03 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:30:24 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > > > > > > > >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > > > > > > > >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > > > > > > > >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > > > > > > > >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > > > > > > > >> Versers".
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > > > > > > > >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > > > > > > > >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > > > > > > > >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > > > > > > > >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > > > > > > > >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > > > > > > > >> beyond...
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > > > > > > > >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > > > > > > > >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Richard Aldington
> > > > > > > > > >> Amy Lowell
> > > > > > > > > >> Vachel Lindsay
> > > > > > > > > >> Harry Kemp
> > > > > > > > > >> Donald Evans
> > > > > > > > > >> Allen Norton
> > > > > > > > > >> Louise Norton
> > > > > > > > > >> H.D.
> > > > > > > > > >> Mina Loy
> > > > > > > > > >> William Carlos Williams
> > > > > > > > > >> Alfred Kreymborg
> > > > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> And so it goes... so it shall ever be.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Interesting read....
> > > > > > > > > Yes, I need to revisit the book soon.
> > > > > > > > I would like to have a read as well....
> > > > > > > Learning how to read
> > > > > > That's always a good start.
> > > > > So what's
> > > > I've probably read as much or more than you have, actually.
> > > Comic books don't count

You probably say that Jack Kerouac and Harlan Ellison don't count, either, and I've read almost everything they've written.

You've read one chapter of Kerouac and one short story by Ellison, right?

I'm already ahead of you by several dozen books right there.

HTH and HAND.

On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:51:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:25:17 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:18:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:10:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:20:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:18:53 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:14:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:10:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 5:17:03 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:30:24 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > > > > > > > > >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > > > > > > > > >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > > > > > > > > >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > > > > > > > > >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > > > > > > > > >> Versers".
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > > > > > > > > >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > > > > > > > > >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > > > > > > > > >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > > > > > > > > >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > > > > > > > > >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > > > > > > > > >> beyond...
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > > > > > > > > >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > > > > > > > > >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Richard Aldington
> > > > > > > > > > >> Amy Lowell
> > > > > > > > > > >> Vachel Lindsay
> > > > > > > > > > >> Harry Kemp
> > > > > > > > > > >> Donald Evans
> > > > > > > > > > >> Allen Norton
> > > > > > > > > > >> Louise Norton
> > > > > > > > > > >> H.D.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Mina Loy
> > > > > > > > > > >> William Carlos Williams
> > > > > > > > > > >> Alfred Kreymborg
> > > > > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> And so it goes... so it shall ever be.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Interesting read....
> > > > > > > > > > Yes, I need to revisit the book soon.
> > > > > > > > > I would like to have a read as well....
> > > > > > > > Learning how to read
> > > > > > > That's always a good start.
> > > > > > So what's
> > > > > I've probably read as much or more than you have, actually.
> > > > Comic books don't count
> You probably say that Jack Kerouac and Harlan Ellison don't count, either, and I've read almost everything they've written.
>
> You've read one chapter of Kerouac and one short story by Ellison, right?
>
> I'm already ahead of you by several dozen books right there.

They're probably written at a level you can, more or less, understand.

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 8:41:03 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:51:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:25:17 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:18:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:10:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:20:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:18:53 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:14:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:10:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 5:17:03 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:30:24 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > > > > > > > > > >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > > > > > > > > > >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > > > > > > > > > >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Versers".
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > > > > > > > > > >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > > > > > > > > > >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > > > > > > > > > >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > > > > > > > > > >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > > > > > > > > > >> beyond...
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > > > > > > > > > >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Richard Aldington
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Amy Lowell
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Vachel Lindsay
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Harry Kemp
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Donald Evans
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Allen Norton
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Louise Norton
> > > > > > > > > > > >> H.D.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Mina Loy
> > > > > > > > > > > >> William Carlos Williams
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Alfred Kreymborg
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> And so it goes... so it shall ever be.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting read....
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I need to revisit the book soon.
> > > > > > > > > > I would like to have a read as well....
> > > > > > > > > Learning how to read
> > > > > > > > That's always a good start.
> > > > > > > So what's
> > > > > > I've probably read as much or more than you have, actually.
> > > > > Comic books don't count
> > You probably say that Jack Kerouac and Harlan Ellison don't count, either, and I've read almost everything they've written.
> >
> > You've read one chapter of Kerouac and one short story by Ellison, right?
> >
> > I'm already ahead of you by several dozen books right there.
> They're probably written at a level you can, more or less, understand.

"Probably," you say, since you've never read them.

Got it.

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 10:51:34 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 8:41:03 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:51:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:25:17 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:18:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 10:10:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:20:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:18:53 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:14:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:10:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 5:17:03 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:30:24 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Versers".
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> beyond...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Richard Aldington
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Amy Lowell
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Vachel Lindsay
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Harry Kemp
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Donald Evans
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Allen Norton
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Louise Norton
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> H.D.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Mina Loy
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> William Carlos Williams
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Alfred Kreymborg
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Ezra Pound
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> And so it goes... so it shall ever be.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting read....
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I need to revisit the book soon.
> > > > > > > > > > > I would like to have a read as well....
> > > > > > > > > > Learning how to read
> > > > > > > > > That's always a good start.
> > > > > > > > So what's
> > > > > > > I've probably read as much or more than you have, actually.
> > > > > > Comic books don't count
> > > You probably say that Jack Kerouac and Harlan Ellison don't count, either, and I've read almost everything they've written.
> > >
> > > You've read one chapter of Kerouac and one short story by Ellison, right?
> > >
> > > I'm already ahead of you by several dozen books right there.
> > They're probably written at a level you can, more or less, understand.
> "Probably," you say, since you've never read them.
>
> Got it.

UPDATE:

Since our resident Donkey is claiming to be at least as well read as myself, I am bumping an overview of *SOME* of the books that I have read:

The Academy Awards Index: The Complete Categorical and Chronological Record, Richard Shale
Adam Bede, George Eliot
Addiction to Perfection, Marion Woodman
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Mark Twain
The Adventures of Pinocchio, Carlo Collodi
The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, Mark Twain
The Aeneid, Virgil
Age of Reason, Thomas Paine
Aion: Researches into the Phenomenology of the Self, C.G. Jung
Alfred Hitchcock: Tales of Terror: 58 Short Stories Chosen by the Master of Suspense,
Alfred Hitchock, ed.
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
The Alienist, Caleb Carr
All Quiet on the Western Front, Erich Maria Remarque
The American Dream, Edward Albee
The American Movies Reference Book: The Sound Era, Paul Michael, ed.
American Popular Song: The Great Innovators, 1900-1950, Alec Wilder
The American Songbook: The Singers, Songwriters & Songs, Ken Bloom
The Amityville Horror, Jay Anson
And Then There were None, Agatha Christie
Animal Farm, George Orwell
Around the World in 80 Days, Jules Verne
The Art of Alfred Hitchcock: Fifty Years of His Motion Pictures, Donald Spoto
As a Driven Leaf, Milton Steinberg
Autobiography: The Magic Lantern, Ingmar Bergman
Autobiography: Pat Boone's America, Pat Boone
Autobiography: The Name Above the Title, Frank Capra
Autobiography: My Life in Pictures, Charles Chaplin
Autobiography: A Portrait of Joan, Joan Crawford
Autobiography: My Way of Life, Joan Crawford
Autobiography: American Prince, Tony Curtis
Autobiography: Doris Day: Her Own Story, Doris Day, A.E. Hotchner
Autobiography: Been There, Done That, Eddie Fisher
Autobiography: My Wicked, Wicked Ways, Errol Flynn
Autobiography: An Autobiographical Study, Sigmund Freud
Autobiography: That Lucky Old Son, Frankie Laine
Autobiography: Veronica, Veronica Lake
Autobiography: The Movies, Mr. Griffith, & Me, Lillian Gish
Autobiography: Memories, Dreams, Reflections, Carl Jung
Autobiography: Dean (Martin) & Me, Jerry Lewis
Autobiography: 'Tis Herself, Maureen O'Hara
Autobiography: Going Rogue: An American Life - Sarah Palin
Autobiography: The Autobiography of Mark Twain, Mark Twain
Autobiography: Fun in a Chinese Laundry, Josef Von Sternberg
Autumn of the Patriarch, Gabriel García Márquez
The Avant-Garde Film, P. Adams Sitney, ed.
The Bad Guys, William K. Everson
Bardo Thodol (Tibetan Book of the Dead), anonymous
Barnaby Rudge: A Tale of the Riots of Eighty, Charles Dickens
The Beautiful and Damned, F. Scott Fitzgerald
Beowulf, Anonymous
The Best Damn Trumpet Player: Memories of the Big Band Era and Beyond, Richard Grudens
The Best of Jeani Rector, Jeani Rector
A Big Little Life: A Memoir of a Joyful Dog Named Trixie, Dean Koonz
Biography: Goodnight, Sweet Prince: The Life & Times of John Barrymore, Gene Fowler
Biography: Humphrey Bogart, (Pyramid Illustrated History of the Movies), Alan G. Barbour
Biography: Jim Bowie: Boy With a Hunting Knife, Gertrude Hecker Winders, Jerry Robinson
Biography: (Marlon) Brando: A Life in Our Times, Richard Schickel
Biography: George Gordon, Lord Byron (three, unknown)
Biography: Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping Prophet, Jess Stearn
Biography: Nat King Cole, Daniel Mark Epstein
Biography: Bing Crosby: A Pocketful of Dreams – The Early Years, 1903-1940, Gary Giddins
Biography: George Custer:
George Custer: Boy of Action, Augusta Stevenson
Custer's Gold: The United States Cavalry Expedition of 1874, Donald Jackson
Biography: Roman Candle: The Life of Bobby Darin, David Evanier
Biography: James Dean: American Icon, David Dalton, Ron Cayen
Biography: W.C. Fields: His Follies & Fortunes, Robert Lewis Taylor
Biography: Errol Flynn
Errol Flynn: A Memoir, Earl Conrad
The Two Lives of Errol Flynn, Michael Freedland
(A third biography)
Biography: Henry Fonda (Pyramid Illustrated History of the Movies), Michael Kerbel
Biography: Snootie Little Cutie: The Connie Haines Story, Richard Grudens
Biography: The Life, the Legend, the Legacy of Alan Ladd, Beverly Linet
Biography: Frankie Laine:
That Lucky Old Sun, Todd Everett
I Believe, Todd Everett
Rawhide, Todd Everett
Mr. Rhythm: A Tribute to Frankie Laine, Richard Grudens, Clint Eastwood
Reaching for a Star, Craig Cronbaugh
Biography: Fritz Lang, Lotte H. Eisner
Biography: Mario Lanza: Singing to the Gods, Derek Mannering, Ellisa Lanza Bregman
Biography: Dean Martin: Memories are Made of This: Through His Daughter’s Eyes, Deanna Martin, Jerry
Lewis, Wendy Holden
Biography: Edgar Allan Poe:
Israfel: The Life and Times of Edgar Allan Poe, Hervey Allen
Edgar A. Poe: Mournful and Never-ending Remembrance, Kenneth Silverman
The Portraits and Dguerreotypes of Edgar Allan Poe, Michael J. Deas
Poe: A Biography, William Bittner
The Unknown Poe: An Anthology of Fugitive Writings by Edgar Allan Poe, With Appreciations
By Charles Baudelaire, Stephane Mallarme, Paul Valery, J.K. Huysmans & Andre Breton
Poe, Poe, Poe, Poe, Poe, Poe, Poe, Daniel Hoffman
The Haunted Palace: A Life of Edgar Allan Poe, Frances Winwar
The Poe Log: A Documentary Life of Edgar Allan Poe, 1809-1849, Dwight Thomas, David K.
Jackson
(several others)
Biography: The Secret Life of Tyrone Power, Hector Arce
Biography: The Elvis Presley Scrapbook: Solid Gold Memories, James Robert Parish
Biography: Johnnie Ray:
Cry: The Johnnie Ray Story, Jonny Whiteside
Cry (Bear Family vers.), Jonny Whiteside
Yes Tonight Josephine, Jonny Whiteside
Biography: Percy Bysshe Shelley
Biography: All or Nothing at All: A Life of Frank Sinatra, Donald Clarke
Biography: James Stewart (Pyramid Illustrated History of the Movies), Howard Thompson
Biography: Orson Welles: The Road to Xanadu, Simon Callow
Black Beauty, Anna Sewell
Bleak House, Charles Dickens
Bless the Beasts and the Children, Glendon Swarthout
The Blue Bird, Maurice Maeterlinck
The Blue Dahlia (screenplay), Raymond Chandler
The Blue Fairy (Several of Andrew Lang's Fairy Books - I don't recall which colors)
Bogey: The Films of Humphrey Bogart, Clifford McCarty
Le Bon Sens, Paul-Henri Thiry, Paul-Henri Thiry, Baron d'Holbach
The Book of Runes, Ralph H. Blum
Brave New World, Aldous Huxley
Brave New World Revisited, Aldous Huxley
Bulfinch's Mythology (I & II), Thomas Bulfinch
Call of the Wild, Jack London
Candide, Voltaire
The Canterbury Tales, Geoffrey Chaucer
Carmilla, Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu
Carry On, Mr. Bowditch, Jean Lee Latham
The Castle, Franz Kafka
Catcher in the Rye, J.D. Salinger
Character People, I & II, Ken D. Jones, Arthur F. McClure, Alfred E. Twomey
Chariots of the Gods, Erich von Däniken
Charlotte’s Web, E.B. White
The Cherry Orchard, Anton Chekhov
A Child's Garden of Verses, Robert Louis Stevenson
Christabel, Samuel Taylor Coleridge
The Cinema of Orson Welles, Peter Cowie
The Citizen Kane Book, Pauline Kael
Civilization and Its Discontents, Sigmund Freud
Classics of the Foreign Film: A Pictorial Treasury, Parker Tyler
Classics of the Silent Screen, Joe Franklin
Close-Ups: The Movie Star Book, Danny Peary
Cobwebs & Whispers, Scott Thomas
Collection: Age of Enlightenment poetry
Collection: Elizabethan Poetry
Collection: The Giant Book of Poetry, William Roetzheim
Collection: Medieval Lyrics
Collection: Modern Poetry
Collection: Modern Traditional Poetry
Collection: Norton Poetry Anthology (3 editions)
Collection: Romantic Poetry
Collection: Victorian poetry
Collected essays: Ralph Waldo Emerson
Collected essays: Benjamin Franklin
Collected essays: David Hume
Collected essays: Baruch Spinoza
Collected nursery rhymes: Mother Goose
Collected plays: Aeschylus
Collected plays: Aristophes
Collected plays: Euripides
Collected plays: Henrik Ibsen
Collected plays: Plautus
Collected Plays: William Shakespeare (I haven't read all of the histories)
Collected plays: Sophocles
Collected plays: Terence
Collected poetry: Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Collected poetry: Ralph Waldo Emerson
Collected poetry: Eugene Field
Collected poetry: Robert Frost
Collected poetry: Hesiod & Assorted Homerica
Collected poetry: Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Collected poetry: Andrew Marvell
Collected poetry: Sir Walter Scott
Complete poetry: Shel Silverstein
Collected poetry: Walt Whitman
Collected poetry: William Wordsworth
Collected short stories: Algernon Blackwood
Collected short stories, Nathaniel Hawthorne
Collected short stories: Robert Heinlein
Collected short stories: O. Henry
Collected Short Stories: M.R. James
Collected short stories: Rudyard Kipling
Collected short stories, H.P. Lovecraft
Collected short stories: Herman Melville
Collected short stories: Washington Irving
Collected stories, essays, Jonathan Swift
Collected Socratic dialogues: Plato
Collected Works, C.G. Jung
Complete: Elizabeth Barret Browning
Complete: William Blake
Complete: Robert Browning
Complete: George Gordon, Lord Byron
Complete: Emily Dickinson
Complete (Poetry & Letters): John Donne
Complete: Hermann Hesse
Complete: John Keats
Complete (poetry), Rudyard Kipling
Complete (poetry, plays, short stories, criticism, letters): Edgar A. Poe
Complete: Friedrich Nietzsche
Complete (fiction, plays, essays): Ayn Rand
Complete: Percy Bysshe Shelley
Complete (sonnets): William Shakespeare
Complete: Alfred, Lord Tennyson
The Complete Guide to the Tarot, Eden Gray
The Complete Prophecies, Nostradamus
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, Mark Twain
Crime & Punishment, Fyodor Dostoevsky
Cult Movies I & II, Danny Peary
Dandelion Wine, Ray Bradbury
David Copperfield, Charles Dickens
The Da Vinci Code, Dan Brown
De rerum natura, Lucretius
The Dead, James Joyce
Dead Cat Bounce, Norman Green
Dead Souls, Nikolai Gogol
The Decameron, Giovanni Boccaccio
The Detective in Film, William K. Everson
The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce
Dictionnaire philosophique, Voltaire
The Divine Comedy, Dante Alighieri
Don Quixote, Miguel de Cervantes
Doo-dah!: Stephen Foster and the Rise of American Popular Culture, Ken Emerson
Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley
Dracula, Bram Stoker
Drawing Down the Moon, Margot Adler
Dr. Faustus, Christopher Marlowe
Early American Cinema, Anthony Slide
East of Eden, John Steinbeck
The Echo of Greece, Edith Hamilton
The Ego and the Id, Sigmund Freud
The Encyclopedia Of Witchcraft & Demonology, Rossell Hope Robbins
Ethan Frome, Edith Wharton
Everyman, Anonymous
The Evil Entwines, John B. Ford & various
Extraordinary Endings of Practically Everything & Everybody, Charles Panati
Extraordinary Origins of Everyday Things, Charles Panati
Fables, Aesop
Fables, Jean de La Fontaine
Farewell Summer, Ray Bradbury
Fatal Women, Kevin N. Roberts
Faust, Goethe
Fearful Symmetry: A Study of William Blake, Northrop Frye
The Federalist Papers, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay
50 Classic Motion Pictures: The Stuff That Dreams are Made Of, David Zinman
Film as Art, Rudolf Arnheim
The Film Encyclopedia, Ephraim Katz
The Film Director, Richard L. Bare
Film Form, Sergei M. Eisenstein
Film Noir & the Spaces of Modernity, Edward Dimendberg
Film Sense, Sergei M. Eisenstein
Film Theory & Criticism, Leo Braudy, Marshall Cohen
The Filmmaker's Handbook, Edward Pincus
The Films of Errol Flynn, Tony Thomas
Films of the Fifties, Tony Thomas
Films of the Forties, Tony Thomas
Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies, C.G. Jung
Forbidden Mysteries of Enoch, Elizabeth Clare Prophet
4x4, Brian Keene, Geoff Cooper, Michael T. Huyck Jr., Michael Oliveri
Frankenstein: Or the Modern Prometheus, Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley
From Caligari to Hitler: A Psychological History of the German Film, Seigfried Kracauer
The Future of an Illusion, Sigmund Freud
The Gallic Wars, Julius Caesar
Gangsters from Little Caesar to the Godfather (Pyramid Illustrated History of the Movies) – John Gabree
The Gates of the Alamo, Stephan Harrigan
The Genius & the Goddess, Aldous Huxley
Getting Even, Woody Allen
The Glass Menagerie, Tennessee Williams
The Golden Bough, Sir James George Frazer
The Golden Dawn: The Original Account of the Teachings, Rites, and Ceremonies
of the Hermetic Order, Israel Regardie
Golden Turkey Awards, I & II, Harry and Michael Medved
Graveyard Shift, Stephen King
Great Expectations, Charles Dickens
The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald
Great Pretenders: My Strange Love Affair With ‘50s Pop Music, Karen Shoemer
Great Television Heroes, Donald F. Glut, Jim Harmon
Hallelujah, Anyway, Patrick Woodroffe
Halliwell's Film Guide, Leslie L. Halliwell
Hallowe’en Party, Agatha Christie
Happy Days, Samuel Beckett
The Haunted Bookshop, Christopher Morley
The Haunted Screen: Expressionism in the German cinema and the influence of Max
Reinhardt, Eisner H. Eisner
The Haunting of Hill House, Shirley Jackson
Harvest Home, Tom Tyron
The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter, Carson McCullers
Heart of Darkness, Joseph Conrad
Heaven & Hell, Aldous Huxley
Hero & Leander, Christopher Marlowe
The Histories, Herodotus
The History of World Cinema, David Robinson
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams
The Hobbit, J.R.R.Tolkien
Hollywood, Garson Kanin
Hollywood: The Pioneers, Kevin Brownlow
Hollywood Babylon (I & II), Kenneth Anger
The Holy Bible (King James Version), Multi-author
The Holy Bible (Revised Standard Edition), Multi-author
The Houses In Between, Howard Spring
How Sweet It Was, Arthur Shulman, Roger Youman
How to Kill, Vol. 1, John Minnery
The Human Comedy, William Saroyan
The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Victor Hugo
I Ching, anonymous
If You Meet the Buddha on the Road, Kill Him, Sheldon Kopp
The Iliad, Homer
Immortals of the Screen, Ray Stuart, Czeslaw Z. Banasiewicz
The Importance of Being Earnest, Oscar Wilde
In the Days of the Comet, H.G. Wells
Independent Feature Film Production, Gregory Goodell
Inherit the Wind, Jerome Lawrence, Robert E. Lee
The International Dictionary of Films and Filmmakers, 3 vol.s, Christopher Lyon, ed.
The Interpretation of Dreams, Sigmund Freud
Interview With the Vampire, Anne Rice
Into Film, Laurence Goldstein, Jan Kaufman
John Brown's Body, Stepen Vincent Benét
Das Kapital: A Critique of Political Economy, Karl Marx
The Killer Angels: A Novel of the Civil War, Michael Shaara
The King in Yellow, Robert W. Chambers
King Solomon's Mines, H. Rider Haggard
The Kingdom of the Wicked, Anthony Burgess
Language in Thought and Action, S.I. Hayakawa
The Last Vampire, T.M. Wright
Leaves of Grass, Walt Whitman
The Left Hand of Darkness, Ursula Le Guin
The Life of Greece, Will Durant
Life, the Universe and Everything, Douglas Adams
Lila: An Inquiry into Morals, Robert M. Pirsig
The Lion, the Witch, & the Wardrobe, C.S. Lewis
Little Men, Louisa May Alcott
The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Little Women, Louisa May Alcott
Lives, Plutarch
Lolita, Vladimir Nabokov
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, J.R.R. Tolkien
Lord Jim, Joseph Conrad
Lord of the Flies, William Golding
The Lore of Still Building: Or Getting to Know Your Local Sheriff, N. and K.. Gibat
Lost Horizon, James Hilton
Love in the Time of Cholera, Gabriel García Márquez
Madame Bovary, Gustave Flaubert
Malleus Maleficarum, James Sprenger, Heinrich Kramer
The Maltese Falcon, Dashiell Hammett
Man and His Symbols, C.G. Jung
Man and Superman, George Bernard Shaw
The Man in the High Castle, Philip K. Dick
Masterpieces of Terror and the Supernatural, Marvin Kaye, ed.
Medieval Punishments: An Illustrated History of Torture, William Andrews
The Metamorphoses, Ovid
The Metamorphosis, Franz Kafka
The MGM Story, John Douglas Eames
The Miracle Worker, William Gibson
The Misanthrope, Molière
Mr. Arkadin, Orson Welles
Moby Dick, Herman Melville
Modern Man in Search of a Soul, C.G. Jung
Moll Flanders, Daniel DeFoe
The Moonstone, Wilkie Collins
Le Morte d'Arthur, Thomas Malory
Mountain of Dreams: The Golden Years of Paramount Pictures, Leslie Halliwell
Movie-Made America, Robert Sklar
Movie Stars in Bathtubs, Jack Scagnetti
The Movies, Richard Griffith
The Naked Ape, Desmond Morris
The Necronomicon, Simon
The Nicomachean Ethics, Aristotle
Night, Eile Wiesel
Night Shift, Stephen King
The Night Thoreau Spent in Jail, Jerome Lawrence, Robert E. Lee
Nighttouch: Journeying into the Realms of Nightmare, Gerry Goldberg, Stephen Storoschuk, Fred
Corbett, eds.
1984, George Orwell
An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge, & Other Short Stories, Ambrose Bierce
The Occult, Colin Wilson
The October Country, Ray Bradbury
The Odyssey, Homer
The Old Curiosity Shop, Charles Dickens
The Old Man & the Sea, Ernest Hemingway
Oliver Twist, Charles Dickens
Omoo, Herman Melville
On Civil Disobedience, Henry David Thoreau
The Once & Future King, T.H. White
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest: A Play in Two Acts, Dale Wasserman, Ken Kesey
One Hundred Years of Solitude, Gabriel García Márquez
Origin of Species, Charles Darwin
Out of This Silent Planet, C.S. Lewis
An Outline of Esoteric Science, Rudolf Steiner
The Outline of History, H.G. Wells
An Outline of Psycho-Analysis, Sigmund Freud
The Owl Was a Baker's Daughter, Marion Woodman
The Parade's Gone By, Kevin Brownlow
Paradise Lost, John Milton
Paradise Regained, John Milton
Perelandra, C.S. Lewis
Peter Pan, J.M. Barrie
Phèdre, Jean Racine
The Philippics, Cicero
A Pictorial History of Crime: 1840 to the Present, Julian Symons
A Pictorial History of the Talkies, Daniel Blum
The Picture of Dorian Gray, Oscar Wilde
The Pilgrim's Progress, John Bunyan
The Poe Shadow, Matthew Pearl
The Power of Myth, Joseph Campbell, Bill Moyers
A Practical Guide to Qabalistic Symbolism, Gareth Knight
The Prince, Niccolo Machiavelli
The Prince & the Pauper, Mark Twain
The Purple Cloud, M.P. Shiel
Queen of the Damned, Anne Rice
Quest for the Beloved, Kevin N. Roberts
Red Badge of Courage, Stephen Crane
The Republic, Plato
The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, Douglas Adams
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Samuel Taylor Coleridge
The River Midnight, Lilian Nattel
Roll Away the Stone, Israel Regardie, Aleister Crowley
Roughing It, Mark Twain
Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, Edward Fitzgerald
The Salvaging of Civilization, H.G. Wells
Satan Wants You: The Cult of Devil Worship in America, Arthur Lyons
The Satanic Bible, Anton S. LaVey
The Satanic Witch, Anton S. LaVey
Saturday Afternoon at the Bijou - A Nostalgic Look at Charlie Chan, Andy Hardy, and Other Movie Heroes
We Have Known and Loved, David Zinman
The Scarlet Letter, Nathaniel Hawthorne
The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Vol. I, 1929-1964, Robert Silverberg, ed.
The Sea Wolf, Jack London
A Season in Hell, Arthur Rimbaud
Shane, Jack Schaefer
She: A History of Adventure, H. Rider Haggard
A Short History of the Movies, Gerald Mast
The Show Business Nobody Knows, Earl Wilson
Sinatra! The Song Is You, Will Friedwald
Sir Gawain & The Green Knight, Anonymous
Silas Marner, George Eliot
Sleepeasy, T.M. Wright
Something Wicked This Way Comes, Ray Bradbury
The Song of Eve: Mythology and Symbols of the Goddess, Manuela Dunn Mascetti
Songs of the Sea Children, Bliss Carman
The Story of Mankind, Hendrik Willem van Loon
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, Robert Louis Stevenson
The Stranger, Albert Camus
Stranger in a Strange Land (orig. & expanded vers.), Robert Heinlein
Suddenly, Last Summer, Tennessee Williams
Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle, C.G. Jung
The Taking, Dean Koontz
A Tale of Two Cities, Charles Dickens
Tales of Devilry & Doom, John B. Ford
The Tao of Pooh, Benjamin Hoff
Tartuffe, Molière
The Teachings of Don Juan, Carlos Castaneda
Tender Is the Night, F. Scott Fitzgerald
The Terminal Man, Michael Crichton
That Hideous Strength, C.S. Lewis
The Thing in the Weeds and Other Tales of the Tideless: The Sargasso Sea Stories, William Hope
Hodgson
This Fabulous Century (8 vol.s), various eds.
This Is My God, Herman Wouk
Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There, Lewis Carroll
Tiger at the Gates, Jean Giraudoux, Christopher Fry
The Time Machine, H.G. Wells
Time Must Have a Stop, Aldous Huxley
The Time Out Film Guide, Tom Milne, ed.
The Time-Traveler's Wife, Audrey Niffenegger
‘Tis Pity She’s a Whore, John Ford
Tom Sawyer, Detective, Mark Twain
Too Young to Die, Patricia Fox-Sheinwold
Totem and Taboo, Sigmund Freud
Treasure Island, Robert Louis Stevenson
The Trial, Franz Kafka
The Turn of the Screw, Henry James
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Jules Verne
Twilight, Dean Koontz
Two Years Before the Mast, Richard Henry Dana
Typee, Herman Melville
Understanding Movies, 2nd & 3rd editions, Louis D. Giannetti
The Unholy Bible: Blake, Jung, and the Collective Unconscious, June Singer
The Universe & Dr. Einstein, Barnett
The Upanishads, Anonymous
The Uses of Enchantment: The Meaning and Importance of Fairy Tales, Bruno Bettelheim
The Vampire Lestat, Anne Rice
Vanity Fair, William Makepeace Thackeray
Very Special People, Frederick Drimmer
Volpone, Ben Jonson
Waldon Pond, Henry David Thoreau
The War Film (Pyramid Illustrated History of the Movies), Norman Kagan
The Waste Land & collected poems, T.S. Eliot
Waves at Genji's Door, Joan Mellen
The Western Film (Pyramid Illustrated History of the Movies), Charles Silver
Whatever Became Of …?, Vol.s I – III, Richard Lamparski
The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth
Wicca Craft: The Modern Witches Book of Herbs, Magick and Dreams, Gerina Dunwich
William Blake: His Philosophy and Symbols, S. Foster Damon
Winterset, Maxwell Anderson
The Witch of Cologne, Tobsha Learner
The Wizard of Oz, L. Frank Baum
The Woman in White, Wilkie Collins
The World as Will & Idea, Arthur Schopenhauer
World Book Encyclopedia (ca. 1953)
Wuthering Heights, Emily Brontë
Zardoz, John Boorman
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry into Values, Robert M.. Pirsig

Michael Pendragon wrote:
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<Snipped for brevity>

> Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce

I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
>
> <Snipped for brevity>
>
> Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce

I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.

Films I'm watching this week:

Brightburn, directed by James Gunn

A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers

Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers

HTH and HAND.

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:07:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> >
> > <Snipped for brevity>
> >
> > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
>
> I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> Films I'm watching this week:
>
> Brightburn, directed by James Gunn
>
> A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
>
> Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
>
> HTH and HAND.

So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them.

Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
>
> <Snipped for brevity>
> >
>
> Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce

I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.

Films I'm watching this week:

Brightburn, (correction) produced by James Gunn

A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers

Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers

HTH and HAND.

....

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:07:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > <Snipped for brevity>
> > >
> > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> >
> > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > Films I'm watching this week:
> >
> > Brightburn, produced by James Gunn
> >
> > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> >
> > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
>
> So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them.

Right now, yes.

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:42:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:07:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > <Snipped for brevity>
> > > >
> > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > >
> > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > >
> > > Brightburn, produced by James Gunn
> > >
> > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > >
> > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> >
> > So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them.
> Right now, yes.

Have you forgotten that you started this by claiming that you were at least as well read as I am?

Or are you reading the Coen films "like comic books"?

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:42:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:07:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <Snipped for brevity>
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > > >
> > > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > > >
> > > > Brightburn, produced by James Gunn
> > > >
> > > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > >
> > > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > >
> > > So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them.
> > Right now, yes.
> Have you forgotten that you started this by claiming that you were at least as well read as I am?
>
> Or are you reading the Coen films "like comic books"?

No, the Coen Brothers films are in English.

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:54:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:42:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:07:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <Snipped for brevity>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > > > >
> > > > > Brightburn, produced by James Gunn
> > > > >
> > > > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > >
> > > > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > >
> > > > So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them.
> > > Right now, yes.
> > Have you forgotten that you started this by claiming that you were at least as well read as I am?
> >
> > Or are you reading the Coen films "like comic books"?
> No, the Coen Brothers films are in English.

What a maroon!

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:54:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:42:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:07:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <Snipped for brevity>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > > > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brightburn, produced by James Gunn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them..
> > > > Right now, yes.
> > > Have you forgotten that you started this by claiming that you were at least as well read as I am?
> > >
> > > Or are you reading the Coen films "like comic books"?
> > No, the Coen Brothers films are in English.
> What a maroon!

Look who's talking, Michael Pendragon, the shit slinging little fuckwit monkey.

🙂

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:00:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:54:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:42:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:07:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <Snipped for brevity>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > > > > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brightburn, produced by James Gunn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them.
> > > > > Right now, yes.
> > > > Have you forgotten that you started this by claiming that you were at least as well read as I am?
> > > >
> > > > Or are you reading the Coen films "like comic books"?
> > > No, the Coen Brothers films are in English.
> > What a maroon!
> Look who's talking, Michael Pendragon, the shit slinging little fuckwit monkey.

Find an example of a comparable statement coming from my pen:

"If the viewer doesn't read the language the film is in, that's why subtitles are provided."

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:04:51 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:00:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:54:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:42:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:07:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > <Snipped for brevity>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > > > > > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brightburn, produced by James Gunn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them.
> > > > > > Right now, yes.
> > > > > Have you forgotten that you started this by claiming that you were at least as well read as I am?
> > > > >
> > > > > Or are you reading the Coen films "like comic books"?
> > > > No, the Coen Brothers films are in English.
> > > What a maroon!
> > Look who's talking, Michael Pendragon, the shit slinging little fuckwit monkey.
> Find an example

No, I have no interest in repeating your bullshit, Pendragon, you shit slinging little monkey.

🙂

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:09:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:04:51 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:00:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:54:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:42:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:07:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > <Snipped for brevity>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > > > > > > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Brightburn, produced by James Gunn
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them.
> > > > > > > Right now, yes.
> > > > > > Have you forgotten that you started this by claiming that you were at least as well read as I am?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or are you reading the Coen films "like comic books"?
> > > > > No, the Coen Brothers films are in English.
> > > > What a maroon!
> > > Look who's talking, Michael Pendragon, the shit slinging little fuckwit monkey.
> > Find an example
> No, I have no interest in repeating your bullshit, Pendragon, you shit slinging little monkey.

You keep making your childish accusations, yet refuse to provide on shred of evidence.

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:12:16 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:09:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:04:51 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:00:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:54:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:42:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:07:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > <Snipped for brevity>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > > > > > > > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Brightburn, produced by James Gunn
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them.
> > > > > > > > Right now, yes.
> > > > > > > Have you forgotten that you started this by claiming that you were at least as well read as I am?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Or are you reading the Coen films "like comic books"?
> > > > > > No, the Coen Brothers films are in English.
> > > > > What a maroon!
> > > > Look who's talking, Michael Pendragon, the shit slinging little fuckwit monkey.
> > > Find an example
> > No, I have no interest in repeating your bullshit, Pendragon, you shit slinging little monkey.
> You keep making your childish

Again, look who's talking.

🙂

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:18:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> >
> > <Snipped for brevity>
> > >
> >
> > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
>
> I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> Films I'm watching this week:
> Brightburn, (correction) produced by James Gunn
> A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
>
> Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
>
> HTH and HAND.
> ...

I love the Coen Brothers with FARGO and BIG LEBOWSKI...

On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:18:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > <Snipped for brevity>
> > > >
> > >
> > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> >
> > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > Films I'm watching this week:
> > Brightburn, (correction) produced by James Gunn
> > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> >
> > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> > ...
> I love the Coen Brothers with FARGO and BIG LEBOWSKI...

Good for you.

However, this is a poetry group.

Perhaps you could discuss how their film "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" was a modern retelling of Homer's epic poem, "Ὀδύσσεια"?

On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:59:11 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:18:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > > > <Snipped for brevity>
>
> > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > >
> > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > > Brightburn, (correction) produced by James Gunn
> > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > >
> > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > > ...
> > I love the Coen Brothers with FARGO and BIG LEBOWSKI...
> Good for you.
>
> However, this is a poetry group.
>
> Perhaps you could discuss how their film "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" was a modern retelling of Homer's epic poem, "Ὀδύσσεια"?

Could do that, the Coen Brothers often deal in myth and legend restated in our own America... this is what is known as using archetypes...

Agree..?

On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:04:56 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:59:11 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:18:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > > > <Snipped for brevity>
> >
> > > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > > >
> > > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > > > Brightburn, (correction) produced by James Gunn
> > > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > >
> > > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > ...
> > > I love the Coen Brothers with FARGO and BIG LEBOWSKI...
> > Good for you.
> >
> > However, this is a poetry group.
> >
> > Perhaps you could discuss how their film "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" was a modern retelling of Homer's epic poem, "Ὀδύσσεια"?
> Could do that, the Coen Brothers often deal in myth and legend restated in our own America... this is what is known as using archetypes...
>
> Agree..?

Not necessarily.

While "O Brother" does employ some symbolic archetypes, their patterning the story on "Ὀδύσσεια" would not be considered as such.

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:12:16 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:09:22 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:04:51 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
>> > > > > > > > > > > <Snipped for brevity>
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
>> > > > > > > > > > Films I'm watching this week:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Brightburn, produced by James Gunn
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > So you aren't really reading any literature. You're watching a bunch of Coen Brothers' movies and reading a book to help you understand them.
>> > > > > > > > Right now, yes.
>> > > > > > > Have you forgotten that you started this by claiming that you were at least as well read as I am?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Or are you reading the Coen films "like comic books"?
>> > > > > > No, the Coen Brothers films are in English.
>> > > > > What a maroon!
>> > > > Look who's talking, Michael Pendragon, the shit slinging little fuckwit monkey.
>> > > Find an example
>> > No, I have no interest in repeating your bullshit, Pendragon, you shit slinging little monkey.
>> You keep making your childish

> Again, look who's talking.

Of course, Pen is apparently the catalyst of all the childish antic here from what I've observed...

On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:04:56 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:59:11 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 2:18:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > > > <Snipped for brevity>
> >
> > > > > Currently reading Ulysses, James Joyce
> > > >
> > > > I'm currently reading "The Coen Brothers' America" by Keith Booker.
> > > > Films I'm watching this week:
> > > > Brightburn, (correction) produced by James Gunn
> > > > A Serious Man, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > >
> > > > Burn After Reading, directed by the Coen Brothers
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > ...
> > > I love the Coen Brothers with FARGO and BIG LEBOWSKI...
> > Good for you.
> >
> > However, this is a poetry group.
> >
> > Perhaps you could discuss how their film "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" was a modern retelling of Homer's epic poem, "Ὀδύσσεια"?
> Could do that, the Coen Brothers often deal in myth and legend restated in our own America... this is what is known as using archetypes...
>
> Agree..?

The films of the Coen Brothers reference so much from the past, art, music, poetry and of course the art of film-making.