On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:29:03 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:26:22 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:21:40 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:36:07 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:23:39 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:22:38 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:09:16 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 12:00:19 AM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:43:48 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:22:46 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:18:18 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:13:43 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:00:02 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ‒ Point Dume ‒
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream of sharing...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweet dark chocolate strawberries...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and sparkling apple cider
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fine fancy flutes...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The air filled with fairies...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So many goodies in here
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in this home stocked with loot….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dipping into a soothing hot bath,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a jacuzzi extreme,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overflowing with bubbles,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rising with steam...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your estranged naked lover,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will he make me his Queen?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A man above all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too perfect to believe.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream of snuggling all cozy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in front of a crackling red hot fire...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > While watching its ballet of flames,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to match your own burning desire?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With a cuddly warm throw-over
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in his own cloven cove...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two bodies intertwined
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a locked embrace of love?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the stream…of its natural heat…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel my heart’s....gentle osculatory beat…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please...I’m on my knees...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Picture a thick sauce,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of white wine cream,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over a bed of linguine,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of this I often dream....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with sautéed mushrooms,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > garlic and onions….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Topped with grilled chicken
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprinkled with parmesan....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (unless he’s vegetarian….)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To share with your lover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (or maybe he’s kosher?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sating your gut, giddy to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With him....finally,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something to win.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > At long last allotted….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your safe, welcomed berth,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ensconced in the warmth
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his home and his hearth;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most private chamber
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his fragile glow-heart charms
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sweetest comforting succor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrapped up in his arms…..?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A peaceful blue and tranquil dome
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The consolation….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his very own kingdom.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond this sad and broken world,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decades of suffering,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of madness insane,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > terrors and rain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > loneliness and pain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell me now true,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has my love been in vain?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream your lover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > loves you, too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and will come back one day
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and rescue you?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because if you do...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me tell you, friend...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You’re not alone...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still I can’t help but wonder...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it unfair or unjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or perhaps it’s too soon...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was it merely a doolally
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > maiden scheme, ‘neath a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wicked midnight moon?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you hear me, lover?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you hear me calling?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My ship is sinking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I’m falling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For You
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will you ever
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > take me…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to Malibu...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can’t get thru…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wow, one copying error got away from me. aw man, i thought i finally for once posted a perfect poem. there were so many corrections, and several saved copies, one thing got missed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Repost in new thread.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A peaceful blue and tranquil dome
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The consolation….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of his very own kingdom.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond this sad and broken world,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Decades of suffering,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of madness insane, terrors
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and rain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > loneliness and pain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell me now true,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Has my love been in vain?
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > really? it gets too confusing.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wait for the book. ;-)
> > > > > > > > > > Speaking of books, I'll find out what the estimated time of arrival is for your copy of my poetry book.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > George Dance handles all those aspects.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Will, do you think this one is hot like OctoPussy?
> > > > > > > > I'll need to go back and read that one again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > oh, it's really sloppy just hammering out a foundation to work with, and it was a lot of work to polish it for yesterday (and now i'm iffy on the capitals and commas)
> > > > > > tu b'av is today (just ending), but jewish holidays atart at sundown the night before
> > > > > I recently thought that we seem to have too many holidays.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not being Jewish, I'll need to Google this one.
> > > > >
> > > > > 🙂
> > > >
> > > > Tu B'Av is truly minor holiday, a rather new addition, in fact. It's the equivalent of our Valentine's Day.
> > > Oh, that wouldn't have anything to do with being Jewish or not, Will. Many Jews know nothing about their religion, sadly. I, myself, have forgotten a lot...sadly.
> > wow, i'm the worst poster, i have to go back with a fine tooth comb. i pause a lot, to think of what i am going to say, and forget that i have just used the same word. i would just take out the first sadly. to each his own. i won't or shouldn't, i guess, pass judgement.
>
> well, since someone here (i forget "whom") said Lucky...re: observing the creative process, the messy sloppy development of one of my poems, now finished, i thought i'd let you all know, i'm gonna try this one my old way, which is like how george (the mensa) says is best, anyway: using no punctuation, except when absolutely necessary, line breaks being a good substitute in general if they would normally appear there, in straight lines, as well, and i'm going to try all lower case, like i was doing initially, too, as i mentioned to will. i defended my struggles with all forms of punctuation, asserting that i had gotten bored with the form, and was trying to make them look more interesting, in an aesthetically pleasing manner, of course, which i found terribly difficult, as i was using it not just as it would appear in straight and proper prose, but also merely on emphasis or ocular impressions...based on my own senses (obviously).

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 12:37:29 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:29:03 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:26:22 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:21:40 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:36:07 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:23:39 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:22:38 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:09:16 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 12:00:19 AM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:43:48 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:22:46 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:18:18 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:13:43 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:00:02 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ‒ Point Dume ‒
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream of sharing...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweet dark chocolate strawberries...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and sparkling apple cider
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fine fancy flutes...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The air filled with fairies...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So many goodies in here
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in this home stocked with loot….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dipping into a soothing hot bath,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a jacuzzi extreme,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overflowing with bubbles,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rising with steam...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your estranged naked lover,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will he make me his Queen?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A man above all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too perfect to believe.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream of snuggling all cozy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in front of a crackling red hot fire...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While watching its ballet of flames,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to match your own burning desire?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With a cuddly warm throw-over
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in his own cloven cove...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two bodies intertwined
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a locked embrace of love?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the stream…of its natural heat…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel my heart’s....gentle osculatory beat…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please...I’m on my knees...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Picture a thick sauce,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of white wine cream,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over a bed of linguine,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of this I often dream....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with sautéed mushrooms,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > garlic and onions….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Topped with grilled chicken
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprinkled with parmesan....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (unless he’s vegetarian….)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To share with your lover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (or maybe he’s kosher?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sating your gut, giddy to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With him....finally,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something to win.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At long last allotted….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your safe, welcomed berth,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ensconced in the warmth
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his home and his hearth;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most private chamber
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his fragile glow-heart charms
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sweetest comforting succor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrapped up in his arms…..?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A peaceful blue and tranquil dome
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The consolation….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his very own kingdom.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond this sad and broken world,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decades of suffering,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of madness insane,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terrors and rain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loneliness and pain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell me now true,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has my love been in vain?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream your lover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loves you, too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and will come back one day
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and rescue you?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because if you do...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me tell you, friend...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You’re not alone...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still I can’t help but wonder...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it unfair or unjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or perhaps it’s too soon...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was it merely a doolally
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maiden scheme, ‘neath a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wicked midnight moon?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you hear me, lover?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you hear me calling?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My ship is sinking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I’m falling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For You
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will you ever
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take me…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to Malibu...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can’t get thru…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wow, one copying error got away from me. aw man, i thought i finally for once posted a perfect poem. there were so many corrections, and several saved copies, one thing got missed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Repost in new thread.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A peaceful blue and tranquil dome
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The consolation….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his very own kingdom.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond this sad and broken world,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decades of suffering,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of madness insane, terrors
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and rain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > loneliness and pain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell me now true,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has my love been in vain?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > really? it gets too confusing.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wait for the book. ;-)
> > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of books, I'll find out what the estimated time of arrival is for your copy of my poetry book.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > George Dance handles all those aspects.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Will, do you think this one is hot like OctoPussy?
> > > > > > > > > I'll need to go back and read that one again.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > oh, it's really sloppy just hammering out a foundation to work with, and it was a lot of work to polish it for yesterday (and now i'm iffy on the capitals and commas)
> > > > > > > tu b'av is today (just ending), but jewish holidays atart at sundown the night before
> > > > > > I recently thought that we seem to have too many holidays.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not being Jewish, I'll need to Google this one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 🙂
> > > > >
> > > > > Tu B'Av is truly minor holiday, a rather new addition, in fact. It's the equivalent of our Valentine's Day.
> > > > Oh, that wouldn't have anything to do with being Jewish or not, Will. Many Jews know nothing about their religion, sadly. I, myself, have forgotten a lot...sadly.
> > > wow, i'm the worst poster, i have to go back with a fine tooth comb. i pause a lot, to think of what i am going to say, and forget that i have just used the same word. i would just take out the first sadly. to each his own. i won't or shouldn't, i guess, pass judgement.
> >
> > well, since someone here (i forget "whom") said Lucky...re: observing the creative process, the messy sloppy development of one of my poems, now finished, i thought i'd let you all know, i'm gonna try this one my old way, which is like how george (the mensa) says is best, anyway: using no punctuation, except when absolutely necessary, line breaks being a good substitute in general if they would normally appear there, in straight lines, as well, and i'm going to try all lower case, like i was doing initially, too, as i mentioned to will. i defended my struggles with all forms of punctuation, asserting that i had gotten bored with the form, and was trying to make them look more interesting, in an aesthetically pleasing manner, of course, which i found terribly difficult, as i was using it not just as it would appear in straight and proper prose, but also merely on emphasis or ocular impressions...based on my own senses (obviously).
> he's worse than Ben, i mean venom

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 12:40:31 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 12:37:29 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:29:03 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:26:22 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 2:21:40 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:36:07 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:23:39 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:22:38 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:09:16 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 12:00:19 AM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:43:48 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:22:46 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:18:18 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:13:43 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:00:02 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ‒ Point Dume ‒
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream of sharing...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweet dark chocolate strawberries...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and sparkling apple cider
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fine fancy flutes...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The air filled with fairies...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So many goodies in here
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in this home stocked with loot….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dipping into a soothing hot bath,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a jacuzzi extreme,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overflowing with bubbles,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rising with steam...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your estranged naked lover,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will he make me his Queen?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A man above all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too perfect to believe.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream of snuggling all cozy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in front of a crackling red hot fire...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While watching its ballet of flames,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to match your own burning desire?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With a cuddly warm throw-over
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in his own cloven cove...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two bodies intertwined
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a locked embrace of love?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the stream…of its natural heat…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel my heart’s....gentle osculatory beat…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please...I’m on my knees...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Picture a thick sauce,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of white wine cream,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over a bed of linguine,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of this I often dream....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with sautéed mushrooms,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > garlic and onions….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Topped with grilled chicken
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprinkled with parmesan....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (unless he’s vegetarian….)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To share with your lover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (or maybe he’s kosher?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sating your gut, giddy to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With him....finally,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something to win.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At long last allotted….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your safe, welcomed berth,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ensconced in the warmth
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his home and his hearth;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most private chamber
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his fragile glow-heart charms
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sweetest comforting succor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrapped up in his arms…..?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A peaceful blue and tranquil dome
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The consolation….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his very own kingdom.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond this sad and broken world,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decades of suffering,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of madness insane,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terrors and rain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loneliness and pain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell me now true,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has my love been in vain?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream your lover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loves you, too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and will come back one day
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and rescue you?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because if you do...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me tell you, friend...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You’re not alone...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still I can’t help but wonder...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it unfair or unjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or perhaps it’s too soon...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was it merely a doolally
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maiden scheme, ‘neath a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wicked midnight moon?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you hear me, lover?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you hear me calling?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My ship is sinking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I’m falling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For You
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will you ever
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take me…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to Malibu...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can’t get thru…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wow, one copying error got away from me. aw man, i thought i finally for once posted a perfect poem. there were so many corrections, and several saved copies, one thing got missed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Repost in new thread.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A peaceful blue and tranquil dome
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The consolation….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his very own kingdom.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond this sad and broken world,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decades of suffering,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of madness insane, terrors
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and rain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loneliness and pain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell me now true,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has my love been in vain?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > really? it gets too confusing.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wait for the book. ;-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of books, I'll find out what the estimated time of arrival is for your copy of my poetry book.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > George Dance handles all those aspects.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Will, do you think this one is hot like OctoPussy?
> > > > > > > > > > I'll need to go back and read that one again.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > oh, it's really sloppy just hammering out a foundation to work with, and it was a lot of work to polish it for yesterday (and now i'm iffy on the capitals and commas)
> > > > > > > > tu b'av is today (just ending), but jewish holidays atart at sundown the night before
> > > > > > > I recently thought that we seem to have too many holidays.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not being Jewish, I'll need to Google this one.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 🙂
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tu B'Av is truly minor holiday, a rather new addition, in fact. It's the equivalent of our Valentine's Day.
> > > > > Oh, that wouldn't have anything to do with being Jewish or not, Will. Many Jews know nothing about their religion, sadly. I, myself, have forgotten a lot...sadly.
> > > > wow, i'm the worst poster, i have to go back with a fine tooth comb.. i pause a lot, to think of what i am going to say, and forget that i have just used the same word. i would just take out the first sadly. to each his own. i won't or shouldn't, i guess, pass judgement.
> > >
> > > well, since someone here (i forget "whom") said Lucky...re: observing the creative process, the messy sloppy development of one of my poems, now finished, i thought i'd let you all know, i'm gonna try this one my old way, which is like how george (the mensa) says is best, anyway: using no punctuation, except when absolutely necessary, line breaks being a good substitute in general if they would normally appear there, in straight lines, as well, and i'm going to try all lower case, like i was doing initially, too, as i mentioned to will. i defended my struggles with all forms of punctuation, asserting that i had gotten bored with the form, and was trying to make them look more interesting, in an aesthetically pleasing manner, of course, which i found terribly difficult, as i was using it not just as it would appear in straight and proper prose, but also merely on emphasis or ocular impressions...based on my own senses (obviously).
> > he's worse than Ben, i mean venom
> oh blind man, thou art sick

roach wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > roach wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 8:43:48 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:22:46 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 8:18:18 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:13:43 PM UTC-4, Rachel wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 8:00:02 PM UTC-7, roach wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ‒ Point Dume ‒
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream of sharing...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweet dark chocolate strawberries...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and sparkling apple cider
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fine fancy flutes...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The air filled with fairies...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So many goodies in here
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in this home stocked with loot….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dipping into a soothing hot bath,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a jacuzzi extreme,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overflowing with bubbles,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rising with steam...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With your estranged naked lover,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will he make me his Queen?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A man above all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too perfect to believe.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream of snuggling all cozy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in front of a crackling red hot fire...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While watching its ballet of flames,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to match your own burning desire?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With a cuddly warm throw-over
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in his own cloven cove...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two bodies intertwined
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a locked embrace of love?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the stream…of its natural heat…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel my heart’s....gentle osculatory beat…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please...I’m on my knees...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Picture a thick sauce,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of white wine cream,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over a bed of linguine,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of this I often dream....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with sautéed mushrooms,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > garlic and onions….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Topped with grilled chicken
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprinkled with parmesan....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (unless he’s vegetarian….)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To share with your lover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (or maybe he’s kosher?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sating your gut, giddy to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With him....finally,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something to win.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At long last allotted….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your safe, welcomed berth,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ensconced in the warmth
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his home and his hearth;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most private chamber
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his fragile glow-heart charms
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sweetest comforting succor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrapped up in his arms…..?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A peaceful blue and tranquil dome
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The consolation….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his very own kingdom.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond this sad and broken world,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decades of suffering,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of madness insane,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terrors and rain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loneliness and pain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell me now true,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has my love been in vain?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you dream your lover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loves you, too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and will come back one day
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and rescue you?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because if you do...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me tell you, friend...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You’re not alone...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still I can’t help but wonder...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it unfair or unjust,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or perhaps it’s too soon...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was it merely a doolally
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maiden scheme, ‘neath a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wicked midnight moon?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you hear me, lover?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you hear me calling?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My ship is sinking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I’m falling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > falling...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For You
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will you ever
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take me…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to Malibu...?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can’t get thru…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wow, one copying error got away from me. aw man, i thought i finally for once posted a perfect poem. there were so many corrections, and several saved copies, one thing got missed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Repost in new thread.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A peaceful blue and tranquil dome
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The consolation….
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his very own kingdom.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyond this sad and broken world,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decades of suffering,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of madness insane, terrors
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and rain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loneliness and pain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell me now true,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has my love been in vain?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > really? it gets too confusing.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wait for the book. ;-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of books, I'll find out what the estimated time of arrival is for your copy of my poetry book.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > George Dance handles all those aspects.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Will, do you think this one is hot like OctoPussy?
> > > > > > > > > > > I'll need to go back and read that one again.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > oh, it's really sloppy just hammering out a foundation to work with, and it was a lot of work to polish it for yesterday (and now i'm iffy on the capitals and commas)
> > > > > > > > > tu b'av is today (just ending), but jewish holidays atart at sundown the night before
> > > > > > > > I recently thought that we seem to have too many holidays.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not being Jewish, I'll need to Google this one.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 🙂
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tu B'Av is truly minor holiday, a rather new addition, in fact. It's the equivalent of our Valentine's Day.
> > > > > > Oh, that wouldn't have anything to do with being Jewish or not, Will. Many Jews know nothing about their religion, sadly. I, myself, have forgotten a lot...sadly.
> > > > > wow, i'm the worst poster, i have to go back with a fine tooth comb. i pause a lot, to think of what i am going to say, and forget that i have just used the same word. i would just take out the first sadly. to each his own. i won't or shouldn't, i guess, pass judgement.
> > > >
> > > > well, since someone here (i forget "whom") said Lucky...re: observing the creative process, the messy sloppy development of one of my poems, now finished, i thought i'd let you all know, i'm gonna try this one my old way, which is like how george (the mensa) says is best, anyway: using no punctuation, except when absolutely necessary, line breaks being a good substitute in general if they would normally appear there, in straight lines, as well, and i'm going to try all lower case, like i was doing initially, too, as i mentioned to will. i defended my struggles with all forms of punctuation, asserting that i had gotten bored with the form, and was trying to make them look more interesting, in an aesthetically pleasing manner, of course, which i found terribly difficult, as i was using it not just as it would appear in straight and proper prose, but also merely on emphasis or ocular impressions...based on my own senses (obviously).
> > > he's worse than Ben, i mean venom
> > oh blind man, thou art sick
> see, i told you google does this to me. it attaches my replies to unintended posts or threads. so will, i was referring initially to jordy. (water torture)