On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 5:15:14 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 6:35:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908]..
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents.. It became rather
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike...
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > >
> > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> > > >
> > > > hola Mr Will
> > >
> > > Good afternoon, my friend.
> >
> > Shalom Will
>
> Hello there Jordy.
>
> :)
bonjour, Will

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 6:25:14 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 4:57:28 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> >> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 11:54:17 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 8:50:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 4:14:46 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive..com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents.. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1.00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman. There was a
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads.. Each head contains only one eye but two
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar. Currently
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town.. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale..
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed and when xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begone, forging fool...!
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how young? and for how long? and how did it end?
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter..... :)
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was a forging troll, Rachel, pay him no mind...!
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is all...!
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The skip and ignore policy is probably the best move here, actually.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guidelin
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Good morning again, Jordy, great to see a friendly face here today
> >> >
> >> > bonjour, Will
> >>
> >> Hi there JC and Doc...!
> > Hey there, FS
> Good day....!
hello FS

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:56:43 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 5:15:14 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 6:35:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long.. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them..
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike...
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history....
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > >> >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> > > > >
> > > > > hola Mr Will
> > > >
> > > > Good afternoon, my friend.
> > >
> > > Shalom Will
> >
> > Hello there Jordy.
> >
>
> bonjour, Will

On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 12:50:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:56:43 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 5:15:14 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > Jordy C wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 6:35:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself..
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike...
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
> > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > >> >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hola Mr Will
> > > > >
> > > > > Good afternoon, my friend.
> > > >
> > > > Shalom Will
> > >
> > > Hello there Jordy.
> > >
> >
> > bonjour, Will
>
> Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice day.
hola Mr Will

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:57:02 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 6:25:14 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive..com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1.00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman. There was a
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads.. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar. Currently
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town.. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up..
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale..
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed and when xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begone, forging fool...!
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how young? and for how long? and how did it end?
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter..... :)
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was a forging troll, Rachel, pay him no mind...!
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is all...!
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The skip and ignore policy is probably the best move here, actually.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guidelin
>
> > Good day....!
> hello FS

On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 4:55:59 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 12:50:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:56:43 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length.. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1..00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike...
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
>
>> > > It was 39° here this morning.
>
> > > bonjour, Will
> >
> > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice day.
> hola Mr Will

On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 7:10:40 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:57:02 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 6:25:14 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> > > Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups..google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups..google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive..com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1.00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman. There was a
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads.. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar. Currently
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town.. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale..
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed and when xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begone, forging fool....!
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how young? and for how long? and how did it end?
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter...... :)
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was a forging troll, Rachel, pay him no mind...!
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is all...!
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The skip and ignore policy is probably the best move here, actually.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guidelin
> >
> > > Good day....!
> > hello FS
>
> How do you do there JC...?
hey there, FS

On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:53:19 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 4:55:59 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 12:50:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:56:43 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1..00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1..00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike...
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
> >
> >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> >
> > > > bonjour, Will
> > >
> > > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice day.
> > hola Mr Will
> Good morning my friend, great to see you again today.
Shalom Will

On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:53:19 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 4:55:59 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover.. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike...
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm.. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline..
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
> > >
> > >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> > >
> > > > > bonjour, Will
> > > >
> > > > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice day.
> > > hola Mr Will
> > Good morning my friend, great to see you again today.
> Shalom Will

On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 7:54:36 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:53:19 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 4:55:59 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others.. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike...
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
> > > >
> > > >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> > > >
> > > > > > bonjour, Will
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice day.
> > > > hola Mr Will
> > > Good morning my friend, great to see you again today.
> > Shalom Will
> Hello again my friend.
bonjour, Will

On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:14 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 7:10:40 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:57:02 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive..com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1.00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman. There was a
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads.. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar. Currently
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town.. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet.. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale..
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed and when xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begone, forging fool....!
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how young? and for how long? and how did it end?
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter...... :)
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was a forging troll, Rachel, pay him no mind...!
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is all...!
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The skip and ignore policy is probably the best move here, actually.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guidelin
>
> > How do you do there JC...?
> hey there, FS

On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 3:01:21 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 7:54:36 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter.. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages..
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike...
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > bonjour, Will
>
> > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice day.
>
> bonjour, Will

On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 5:23:41 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:14 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 7:10:40 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:57:02 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive..com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1.00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman. There was a
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads.. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar. Currently
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town.. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion.. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale..
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed and when xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begone, forging fool...!
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how young? and for how long? and how did it end?
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter...... :)
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was a forging troll, Rachel, pay him no mind...!
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is all...!
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The skip and ignore policy is probably the best move here, actually.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guidelin
> >
> > > How do you do there JC...?
> > hey there, FS
> Good day to you..!
hi there, FS

On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 6:54:27 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 3:01:21 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 7:54:36 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well.. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No.. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me.. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > bonjour, Will
> >
> > > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice day.
> >
> > bonjour, Will
> Good morning my friend, great to see you again today.
> 😃
Shalom Will

On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:12:30 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 6:54:27 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 3:01:21 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 7:54:36 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth.. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > bonjour, Will
> > >
> > > > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice day.
> > >
> > > bonjour, Will
> > Good morning my friend, great to see you again today.
> > 😃
> Shalom Will

On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:12:19 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 5:23:41 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:14 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive..com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1.00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman. There was a
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants.. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads.. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar. Currently
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town.. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale..
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed and when xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begone, forging fool...!
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how young? and for how long? and how did it end?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter..... :)
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was a forging troll, Rachel, pay him no mind...!
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is all...!
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The skip and ignore policy is probably the best move here, actually.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guidelin
> > >
> > > > How do you do there JC...?
> > > hey there, FS
> > Good day to you..!
> hi there, FS

On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:40:30 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:12:19 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 5:23:41 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:14 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive..com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1.00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman. There was a
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged.. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads.. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar. Currently
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town.. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too..
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale..
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed and when xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begone, forging fool...!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how young? and for how long? and how did it end?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter..... :)
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was a forging troll, Rachel, pay him no mind...!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is all...!
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The skip and ignore policy is probably the best move here, actually.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guidelin
> > > >
> > > > > How do you do there JC...?
> > > > hey there, FS
> > > Good day to you..!
> > hi there, FS
> How'd do, JC...?
hello there, FS

On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:41:12 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:40:30 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:12:19 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....I am the reason
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive..com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1.00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman. There was a
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule.. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads.. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar. Currently
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town.. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale..
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed and when xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begone, forging fool...!
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how young? and for how long? and how did it end?
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter..... :)
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was a forging troll, Rachel, pay him no mind...!
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is all...!
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The skip and ignore policy is probably the best move here, actually.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guidelin
> > > > >
> > > > > > How do you do there JC...?
>
> hello there, FS

On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:12:30 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 6:54:27 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 3:01:21 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 7:54:36 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth.. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1..00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck.. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off.. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > bonjour, Will
> > >
> > > > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice day.
> > >
> > > bonjour, Will
> > Good morning my friend, great to see you again today.
>
> Shalom Will

On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 3:11:30 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:41:12 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:40:30 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:12:19 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google..com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive..com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1.00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman. There was a
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads.. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar. Currently
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town.. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike....
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale..
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed and when xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begone, forging fool...!
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how young? and for how long? and how did it end?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter..... :)
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was a forging troll, Rachel, pay him no mind...!
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is all...!
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The skip and ignore policy is probably the best move here, actually.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guidelin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you do there JC...?
> >
> > hello there, FS
>
> Good day to you JC....!
hey there, FS

On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:49:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:12:30 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 6:54:27 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 3:01:21 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 7:54:36 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by holy joe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package of poems and comics.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inspired to labor in this genre.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minicomics to 50 cents.. In doing so, they raised the page count of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their minicomics to 16 pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1983! 32 pages for $1...00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman.. There was a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar.. Currently
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he's down on his luck... He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has also been cut off... Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call how he managed to relieve himself.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: How about to poop?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hole and cover it up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the darkness"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Lisa Scarboro:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Words shared
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > among friends
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...voice after
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voice echoes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like feelings"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rick Duffey:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who keeps making webs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in all the worst places & she does this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overnight
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webs of immense size
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger than pillow cases
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big enough to capture chess pieces
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they only appear after five in the evening
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & eight the next morning, punched in,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we've got sleep under our lids
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & sip at the cooled edges of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've never seen this spider in person
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but opinions abound
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a big one says Mike...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably Amanda
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I say)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she tells fortunes to the other spiders
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > she seeks out the crevasses of skin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attracted by the warmth
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your body
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scratch an itch there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only if you must"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Island too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way it could be collected and displayed?"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living in the same locale.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Quite interesting piece of small press history...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <forgery and trolling snipped>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Hope you're having a nice autumn day, Jordy.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > It was 39° here this morning.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > bonjour, Will
> > > >
> > > > > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice day.
> > > >
> > > > bonjour, Will
> > > Good morning my friend, great to see you again today.
> >
> > Shalom Will
> Hello there Jordy.
hola Mr Will