Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 11:35:13 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 11:05:12 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> Family Guy wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:31:33 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:20:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:40:12 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:29:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, I doubt that.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Dreck.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional monkey who thinks he is a better poet than Cummings Eliot and Williams.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Got it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Ellison was a pedophile
>> >> >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Will you be retracting this false information?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > The information is correct.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Harlan Ellison was
>> >> >> >> >> Do you have any evidence for this false information?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> No, of course not.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In other words, why do you lie so much, Michael Pendragon?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > You should have read the entire post before you started braying, Donkey:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > "At this juncture, Ellis Harlanson -- that's right folks, the Ellis Harlanson, that cantankerous, cankerous, curmudgeonly, fussbudgety old queen of the Sci-Fi-genre pantheon; the man responsible for such "masterpieces" as Also Sprach the Ding-Dong Boys, and The Ding-Dong Boys do Starfleet -- minced into the fray."
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > [from "Duello."]
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > "Ding-Dong Boys"?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Nuff said.
>> >> >> >> I read it,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Clearly you were unable to understand
>> >> >> I don't see how it proves Michael Pendragon's false accusations against Harlan Ellison.
>> >>
>> >> > You know what a "Ding-Dong" is, don't you?
>> >>
>> >> > And since the ding-dongs in question belong to "Boys," it is safe to assume that we're talking about minors.
>> >>
>> >> > And since "Ellis Harlanson" has these underage boys "do(ing) Starfleet," it is safe to assume that he's a pedophile.
>> >>
>> >> > HtH & HAND
>> >> Which has nothing to do with your false accusations against Harlan Ellison, of course.
>>
>> > Do you prefer this quote?
>>
>> > Harlan Ellison – A large number of science fiction big names have gone on record to staunchly defend the rights of pedophiles, while the number of opponents of such a culture are not only small, but not prominent. One of the more popular voices in science fiction is Ellison, and he used his weight to lend support to the “Free Ed” movement, with no concern for the actual victims:
>> > “It’s primordial. Gwinnett County behaves as if it’s the 14th century, and it’s the Spanish inquisition. They’re treating Ed Kramer as if he’s the Marquis De Sade for Chrissakes..”
>> > Ellison’s comparison was high and to the left: Kramer’s crimes were more horrific than de Sade’s.
>>
>> > http://www.castaliahouse.com/safe-space-as-rape-room-science-fiction-culture-and-childhoods-end-part-2-of-5/
>>
>> > An "enabler" is just as guilty as a perpetrator
>> In your delusional opinion, maybe.

> I'd explained this same point to Mensa George

You mean you spewed your delusional opinion about it, which is obviously incorrect.

On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 12:50:12 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 11:35:13 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 11:05:12 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Family Guy wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:31:33 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:20:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:40:12 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:29:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, I doubt that.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Dreck.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional monkey who thinks he is a better poet than Cummings Eliot and Williams.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Got it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Ellison was a pedophile
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Will you be retracting this false information?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > The information is correct.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Harlan Ellison was
> >> >> >> >> >> Do you have any evidence for this false information?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> No, of course not.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> In other words, why do you lie so much, Michael Pendragon?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > You should have read the entire post before you started braying, Donkey:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > "At this juncture, Ellis Harlanson -- that's right folks, the Ellis Harlanson, that cantankerous, cankerous, curmudgeonly, fussbudgety old queen of the Sci-Fi-genre pantheon; the man responsible for such "masterpieces" as Also Sprach the Ding-Dong Boys, and The Ding-Dong Boys do Starfleet -- minced into the fray."
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > [from "Duello."]
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Ding-Dong Boys"?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Nuff said.
> >> >> >> >> I read it,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Clearly you were unable to understand
> >> >> >> I don't see how it proves Michael Pendragon's false accusations against Harlan Ellison.
> >> >>
> >> >> > You know what a "Ding-Dong" is, don't you?
> >> >>
> >> >> > And since the ding-dongs in question belong to "Boys," it is safe to assume that we're talking about minors.
> >> >>
> >> >> > And since "Ellis Harlanson" has these underage boys "do(ing) Starfleet," it is safe to assume that he's a pedophile.
> >> >>
> >> >> > HtH & HAND
> >> >> Which has nothing to do with your false accusations against Harlan Ellison, of course.
> >>
> >> > Do you prefer this quote?
> >>
> >> > Harlan Ellison – A large number of science fiction big names have gone on record to staunchly defend the rights of pedophiles, while the number of opponents of such a culture are not only small, but not prominent. One of the more popular voices in science fiction is Ellison, and he used his weight to lend support to the “Free Ed” movement, with no concern for the actual victims:
> >> > “It’s primordial. Gwinnett County behaves as if it’s the 14th century, and it’s the Spanish inquisition. They’re treating Ed Kramer as if he’s the Marquis De Sade for Chrissakes..”
> >> > Ellison’s comparison was high and to the left: Kramer’s crimes were more horrific than de Sade’s.
> >>
> >> > http://www.castaliahouse.com/safe-space-as-rape-room-science-fiction-culture-and-childhoods-end-part-2-of-5/
> >>
> >> > An "enabler" is just as guilty as a perpetrator
> >> In your delusional opinion, maybe.
>
> > I'd explained this same point to Mensa George
> You mean you spewed your delusional opinion about it, which is obviously incorrect.

If one enables and/or defends a man who sexually assaults three boys, then he is complicit in that man's guilt.

No moral, ethical, or sane person would defend such a child molester. Ellison sought to "Free Ed" -- thereby loosing him on other underage boys.

Tell me, Donkey, do you believe that Ed Kramer should have been set free?

Do you believe that it's okay to use your notoriety as a successful writer to attempt to free a convicted child molester?

I'd really like to hear your answers to *both* of the above questions.

Thank you.

Harlan Ellison believed his friend Ed Kramer was innocent. Ellison himself wasn't a pedophile.

You lied and misrepresented again, Pendragon.

And so it goes.

On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 2:45:15 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Harlan Ellison believed his friend Ed Kramer was innocent. Ellison himself wasn't a pedophile.
>
> You lied and misrepresented again, Pendragon.
>
>
> And so it goes.

No, he did not believe him innocent.

Here, again, is his statement: “It’s primordial. Gwinnett County behaves as if it’s the 14th century, and it’s the Spanish inquisition. They’re treating Ed Kramer as if he’s the Marquis De Sade for Chrissakes.”

He is saying that Ed Kramer's crimes (sexually molesting three minors) is really no big deal.

Ellison was a despicable individual, not to mention a crappy writer, and the world is a better place without him.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 11:35:13 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 11:05:12 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> Family Guy wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:31:33 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:20:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:40:12 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:29:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, I doubt that.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Dreck.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional monkey who thinks he is a better poet than Cummings Eliot and Williams.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Got it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Ellison was a pedophile
>> >> >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Will you be retracting this false information?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > The information is correct.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Harlan Ellison was
>> >> >> >> >> Do you have any evidence for this false information?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> No, of course not.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In other words, why do you lie so much, Michael Pendragon?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > You should have read the entire post before you started braying, Donkey:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > "At this juncture, Ellis Harlanson -- that's right folks, the Ellis Harlanson, that cantankerous, cankerous, curmudgeonly, fussbudgety old queen of the Sci-Fi-genre pantheon; the man responsible for such "masterpieces" as Also Sprach the Ding-Dong Boys, and The Ding-Dong Boys do Starfleet -- minced into the fray."
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > [from "Duello."]
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > "Ding-Dong Boys"?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Nuff said.
>> >> >> >> I read it,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Clearly you were unable to understand
>> >> >> I don't see how it proves Michael Pendragon's false accusations against Harlan Ellison.
>> >>
>> >> > You know what a "Ding-Dong" is, don't you?
>> >>
>> >> > And since the ding-dongs in question belong to "Boys," it is safe to assume that we're talking about minors.
>> >>
>> >> > And since "Ellis Harlanson" has these underage boys "do(ing) Starfleet," it is safe to assume that he's a pedophile.
>> >>
>> >> > HtH & HAND
>> >> Which has nothing to do with your false accusations against Harlan Ellison, of course.
>>
>> > Do you prefer this quote?
>>
>> > Harlan Ellison – A large number of science fiction big names have gone on record to staunchly defend the rights of pedophiles, while the number of opponents of such a culture are not only small, but not prominent. One of the more popular voices in science fiction is Ellison, and he used his weight to lend support to the “Free Ed” movement, with no concern for the actual victims:
>> > “It’s primordial. Gwinnett County behaves as if it’s the 14th century, and it’s the Spanish inquisition. They’re treating Ed Kramer as if he’s the Marquis De Sade for Chrissakes..”
>> > Ellison’s comparison was high and to the left: Kramer’s crimes were more horrific than de Sade’s.
>>
>> > http://www.castaliahouse.com/safe-space-as-rape-room-science-fiction-culture-and-childhoods-end-part-2-of-5/
>>
>> > An "enabler" is just as guilty as a perpetrator
>> In your delusional opinion, maybe.

> I'd explained this same point to Mensa George when he was defending NAMBLA

Sorry, Pendragon, you're looking a bit delusional again.

HTH and HAND.

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:06:37 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:40:12 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:29:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Like I said, I doubt that.
> > >
> > > > >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
> > > >
> > > > > Dreck.
> > > > Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional monkey who thinks he is a better poet than Cummings Eliot and Williams.
> > > >
> > > > Got it.
> > > Ellison was a pedophile
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Will you be retracting this false information?
> The information is correct.
>
> Harlan Ellison was a pedophile.
>
> "At this juncture, Ellis Harlanson -- that's right folks, the Ellis Harlanson, that cantankerous, cankerous, curmudgeonly, fussbudgety old queen of the Sci-Fi-genre pantheon; the man responsible for such "masterpieces" as Also Sprach the Ding-Dong Boys, and The Ding-Dong Boys do Starfleet -- minced into the fray."
>
> [from "Duello."]
>
> "Ding-Dong Boys"?
>
> Nuff said.

You quoted a work of fiction.

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:06:37 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:40:12 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:29:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Like I said, I doubt that.
> > > >
> > > > > >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dreck.
> > > > > Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional monkey who thinks he is a better poet than Cummings Eliot and Williams.
> > > > >
> > > > > Got it.
> > > > Ellison was a pedophile
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > Will you be retracting this false information?
> > The information is correct.
> >
> > Harlan Ellison was a pedophile.
> >
> > "At this juncture, Ellis Harlanson -- that's right folks, the Ellis Harlanson, that cantankerous, cankerous, curmudgeonly, fussbudgety old queen of the Sci-Fi-genre pantheon; the man responsible for such "masterpieces" as Also Sprach the Ding-Dong Boys, and The Ding-Dong Boys do Starfleet -- minced into the fray."
> >
> > [from "Duello."]
> >
> > "Ding-Dong Boys"?
> >
> > Nuff said.
>
> You quoted a work of fiction.

So?

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 11:35:13 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 11:05:12 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> Family Guy wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:31:33 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:20:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:40:12 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:29:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, I doubt that.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Dreck.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional monkey who thinks he is a better poet than Cummings Eliot and Williams.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Got it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Ellison was a pedophile
>> >> >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Will you be retracting this false information?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > The information is correct.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Harlan Ellison was
>> >> >> >> >> Do you have any evidence for this false information?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> No, of course not.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In other words, why do you lie so much, Michael Pendragon?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > You should have read the entire post before you started braying, Donkey:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > "At this juncture, Ellis Harlanson -- that's right folks, the Ellis Harlanson, that cantankerous, cankerous, curmudgeonly, fussbudgety old queen of the Sci-Fi-genre pantheon; the man responsible for such "masterpieces" as Also Sprach the Ding-Dong Boys, and The Ding-Dong Boys do Starfleet -- minced into the fray."
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > [from "Duello."]
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > "Ding-Dong Boys"?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Nuff said.
>> >> >> >> I read it,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Clearly you were unable to understand
>> >> >> I don't see how it proves Michael Pendragon's false accusations against Harlan Ellison.
>> >>
>> >> > You know what a "Ding-Dong" is, don't you?
>> >>
>> >> > And since the ding-dongs in question belong to "Boys," it is safe to assume that we're talking about minors.
>> >>
>> >> > And since "Ellis Harlanson" has these underage boys "do(ing) Starfleet," it is safe to assume that he's a pedophile.
>> >>
>> >> > HtH & HAND
>> >> Which has nothing to do with your false accusations against Harlan Ellison, of course.
>>
>> > Do you prefer this quote?
>>
>> > Harlan Ellison – A large number of science fiction big names have gone on record to staunchly defend the rights of pedophiles, while the number of opponents of such a culture are not only small, but not prominent. One of the more popular voices in science fiction is Ellison, and he used his weight to lend support to the “Free Ed” movement, with no concern for the actual victims:
>> > “It’s primordial. Gwinnett County behaves as if it’s the 14th century, and it’s the Spanish inquisition. They’re treating Ed Kramer as if he’s the Marquis De Sade for Chrissakes..”
>> > Ellison’s comparison was high and to the left: Kramer’s crimes were more horrific than de Sade’s.
>>
>> > http://www.castaliahouse.com/safe-space-as-rape-room-science-fiction-culture-and-childhoods-end-part-2-of-5/
>>
>> > An "enabler" is just as guilty as a perpetrator
>> In your delusional opinion, maybe.

> I'd explained this same point to Mensa George when he was defending NAMBLA. Enablers are accomplices, and therefore complicit in the crime. If Harlan defended a pedophile who sexually molested little boys, then Harlan is equally guilty. And, any man who stands guilty of sexually molesting little boys is by definition a pedophile.

Again, Harlan Ellison and other Science Fiction writers thought Ed Kramer was innocent.

HTH and HAND.

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 12:06:50 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 11:35:13 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 11:05:12 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Family Guy wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:31:33 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:20:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:40:12 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:29:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, I doubt that.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Dreck.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional monkey who thinks he is a better poet than Cummings Eliot and Williams.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Got it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Ellison was a pedophile
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Will you be retracting this false information?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > The information is correct.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Harlan Ellison was
> >> >> >> >> >> Do you have any evidence for this false information?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> No, of course not.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> In other words, why do you lie so much, Michael Pendragon?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > You should have read the entire post before you started braying, Donkey:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > "At this juncture, Ellis Harlanson -- that's right folks, the Ellis Harlanson, that cantankerous, cankerous, curmudgeonly, fussbudgety old queen of the Sci-Fi-genre pantheon; the man responsible for such "masterpieces" as Also Sprach the Ding-Dong Boys, and The Ding-Dong Boys do Starfleet -- minced into the fray."
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > [from "Duello."]
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Ding-Dong Boys"?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Nuff said.
> >> >> >> >> I read it,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Clearly you were unable to understand
> >> >> >> I don't see how it proves Michael Pendragon's false accusations against Harlan Ellison.
> >> >>
> >> >> > You know what a "Ding-Dong" is, don't you?
> >> >>
> >> >> > And since the ding-dongs in question belong to "Boys," it is safe to assume that we're talking about minors.
> >> >>
> >> >> > And since "Ellis Harlanson" has these underage boys "do(ing) Starfleet," it is safe to assume that he's a pedophile.
> >> >>
> >> >> > HtH & HAND
> >> >> Which has nothing to do with your false accusations against Harlan Ellison, of course.
> >>
> >> > Do you prefer this quote?
> >>
> >> > Harlan Ellison – A large number of science fiction big names have gone on record to staunchly defend the rights of pedophiles, while the number of opponents of such a culture are not only small, but not prominent. One of the more popular voices in science fiction is Ellison, and he used his weight to lend support to the “Free Ed” movement, with no concern for the actual victims:
> >> > “It’s primordial. Gwinnett County behaves as if it’s the 14th century, and it’s the Spanish inquisition. They’re treating Ed Kramer as if he’s the Marquis De Sade for Chrissakes..”
> >> > Ellison’s comparison was high and to the left: Kramer’s crimes were more horrific than de Sade’s.
> >>
> >> > http://www.castaliahouse.com/safe-space-as-rape-room-science-fiction-culture-and-childhoods-end-part-2-of-5/
> >>
> >> > An "enabler" is just as guilty as a perpetrator
> >> In your delusional opinion, maybe.
>
> > I'd explained this same point to Mensa George when he was defending NAMBLA. Enablers are accomplices, and therefore complicit in the crime. If Harlan defended a pedophile who sexually molested little boys, then Harlan is equally guilty. And, any man who stands guilty of sexually molesting little boys is by definition a pedophile.
>
> Again, Harlan Ellison and other Science Fiction writers thought Ed Kramer was innocent.

Ellison's own words (quoted above) speak otherwise.

Learn to read.

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> >> >>>> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, I doubt that.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Dreck.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional monkey who thinks he is a better poet than Cummings Eliot and Williams.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Got it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Ellison was a pedophile
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Will you be retracting this false information?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > The information is correct.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Harlan Ellison was
>> >> >> >> >> >> Do you have any evidence for this false information?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> No, of course not.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> In other words, why do you lie so much, Michael Pendragon?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > You should have read the entire post before you started braying, Donkey:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "At this juncture, Ellis Harlanson -- that's right folks, the Ellis Harlanson, that cantankerous, cankerous, curmudgeonly, fussbudgety old queen of the Sci-Fi-genre pantheon; the man responsible for such "masterpieces" as Also Sprach the Ding-Dong Boys, and The Ding-Dong Boys do Starfleet -- minced into the fray."
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > [from "Duello."]
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Ding-Dong Boys"?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Nuff said.
>> >> >> >> >> I read it,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Clearly you were unable to understand
>> >> >> >> I don't see how it proves Michael Pendragon's false accusations against Harlan Ellison.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > You know what a "Ding-Dong" is, don't you?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > And since the ding-dongs in question belong to "Boys," it is safe to assume that we're talking about minors.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > And since "Ellis Harlanson" has these underage boys "do(ing) Starfleet," it is safe to assume that he's a pedophile.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > HtH & HAND
>> >> >> Which has nothing to do with your false accusations against Harlan Ellison, of course.
>> >>
>> >> > Do you prefer this quote?
>> >>
>> >> > Harlan Ellison – A large number of science fiction big names have gone on record to staunchly defend the rights of pedophiles, while the number of opponents of such a culture are not only small, but not prominent. One of the more popular voices in science fiction is Ellison, and he used his weight to lend support to the “Free Ed” movement, with no concern for the actual victims:
>> >> > “It’s primordial. Gwinnett County behaves as if it’s the 14th century, and it’s the Spanish inquisition. They’re treating Ed Kramer as if he’s the Marquis De Sade for Chrissakes..”
>> >> > Ellison’s comparison was high and to the left: Kramer’s crimes were more horrific than de Sade’s.
>> >>
>> >> > http://www.castaliahouse.com/safe-space-as-rape-room-science-fiction-culture-and-childhoods-end-part-2-of-5/
>> >>
>> >> > An "enabler" is just as guilty as a perpetrator
>> >> In your delusional opinion, maybe.
>>
>> > I'd explained this same point to Mensa George when he was defending NAMBLA. Enablers are accomplices, and therefore complicit in the crime. If Harlan defended a pedophile who sexually molested little boys, then Harlan is equally guilty. And, any man who stands guilty of sexually molesting little boys is by definition a pedophile.
>>
>> Again, Harlan Ellison and other Science Fiction writers thought Ed Kramer was innocent.

> Ellison's own words (quoted above) speak otherwise.

No, that's all in your imagination, probably part of the delusional state you're in.

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > > > > >> Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
>
>> > > > > >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
>
>> > Dreck.
>
>> Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional monkey who thinks he is a better poet than Cummings Eliot and Williams.
>
>> Got it.
>
> Ellison was a pedophile
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?

🙂

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:10:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > > Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
>> >
>> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
>> >> >
>> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
>> >
>> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
>>
>> Like I said, I doubt that.
>>
>>
>> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
>>
>> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.

> Dreck.

Not only are you delusional, you're ignorant:

https://www.tor.com/2018/06/28/harlan-ellison-1934-2018-obituary/

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 7:15:33 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:10:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
> >> >
> >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
> >> >
> >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
> >>
> >> Like I said, I doubt that.
> >>
> >>
> >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
> >>
> >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
>
> > Dreck.
> Not only are you delusional, you're ignorant:
>
> https://www.tor.com/2018/06/28/harlan-ellison-1934-2018-obituary/

I'm aware that he's deceased, you dumbass Donkey.

His writing was still hackwork.

Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:

> On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 7:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
>> >> >
>> >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
>> >> >
>> >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
>> >>
>> >> Like I said, I doubt that.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
>> >>
>> >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
>>
>> > Dreck.
>> Not only are you delusional, you're ignorant:
>>
>> https://www.tor.com/2018/06/28/harlan-ellison-1934-2018-obituary/

> I'm aware

You're delusional.

🙂

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 1:31:46 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 7:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
> >> >>
> >> >> Like I said, I doubt that.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
> >> >>
> >> >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
> >>
> >> > Dreck.
> >> Not only are you delusional, you're ignorant:
> >>
> >> https://www.tor.com/2018/06/28/harlan-ellison-1934-2018-obituary/
>
> > I'm aware
> You're delusional.

AFAIC, you've conceded.

This discussion is ended, for me.

You may continue to bray unheeded at your leisure.

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 1:39:58 PM UTC-4, Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 1:31:46 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> > Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 7:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > >> >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Like I said, I doubt that.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
> > >>
> > >> > Dreck.
> > >> Not only are you delusional, you're ignorant:
> > >>
> > >> https://www.tor.com/2018/06/28/harlan-ellison-1934-2018-obituary/
> >
> > > I'm aware
> > You're delusional.
> AFAIC, you've

In your delusional imagination, you mean.

🙂

Sure, we can end the discussion here, Pendragon.

Harlan Ellison believed his friend Ed Kramer was innocent. Ellison himself wasn't a pedophile.

You lied and misrepresented again, Pendragon, which is no surprise.

And so it goes.

🙂

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:54:49 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:06:37 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:40:12 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:29:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Like I said, I doubt that.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dreck.
> > > > > > Says Michael Pendragon, the delusional monkey who thinks he is a better poet than Cummings Eliot and Williams.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Got it.
> > > > > Ellison was a pedophile
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >
> > > > Will you be retracting this false information?
> > > The information is correct.
> > >
> > > Harlan Ellison was a pedophile.
> > >
> > > "At this juncture, Ellis Harlanson -- that's right folks, the Ellis Harlanson, that cantankerous, cankerous, curmudgeonly, fussbudgety old queen of the Sci-Fi-genre pantheon; the man responsible for such "masterpieces" as Also Sprach the Ding-Dong Boys, and The Ding-Dong Boys do Starfleet -- minced into the fray."
> > >
> > > [from "Duello."]
> > >
> > > "Ding-Dong Boys"?
> > >
> > > Nuff said.
> >
> > You quoted a work of fiction.
> So?

You don't know what fiction is?

https://theportalist.com/harlan-ellison

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 1:39:58 PM UTC-4, Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 1:31:46 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> > Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 7:15:33 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >>> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > >> >> >> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part of modern (at that time) language.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Like I said, I doubt that.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> Harlan is .... well, not the best known sci-fi writer on the block.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Harlan Ellison is more legendary and famous than you seem to realize.
> > >>
> > >> > Dreck.
> > >> Not only are you delusional, you're ignorant:
> > >>
> > >> https://www.tor.com/2018/06/28/harlan-ellison-1934-2018-obituary/
> >
> > > I'm aware
> > You're delusional.
>
>
> This discussion is ended

Good enough, I've made my point.

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 11:28:04 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 8:52:21 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 8:05:11 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 5:42:03 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > > Shalom & Erev tov, Will...You did not say that Reb Harlan invented the phrase, but he did use it (more than once). PaedoBarney has coined nothing except the lies he told his wife's rabbi.
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes, Harlan Ellison was taking the line from obscurity and making it a part o modern (at that time) language.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Everyone knows Fat's Waller's line. "Ain't Misbehavin'" was running on Broadway when Harlan "quoted" it.
>> >
>> > No, not everyone is a swishing goth wannabe into Broadway musicals.
>> More people know who Fats Waller is than have even heard of Harlan Ellison.

> I doubt that.

Not likely!