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by: Roland Perry - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:46 UTC

In message <k4a4piFf72sU2@mid.individual.net>, at 16:45:38 on Sun, 5 Feb
2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>On 05/02/2023 08:41 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>> In message <k47iqvF383eU2@mid.individual.net>, at 17:26:55 on Sat, 4
>>Feb 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>> On 04/02/2023 03:44 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>> In message <k45q20Fpd07U3@mid.individual.net>, at 01:17:52 on Sat,
>>>>4 Feb 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>> On 01/02/2023 05:31 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>> In message <k3sfhlFbsh8U3@mid.individual.net>, at 12:23:17 on
>>>>>>Tue, 31 Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>> On 31/01/2023 09:58 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>> In message <k3q084F6biU2@mid.individual.net>, at 13:49:57 on
>>>>>>>>Mon, 30 Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2023 10:33 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In message <k3igfaFpv68U8@mid.individual.net>, at 17:37:47 on
>>>>>>>>>>Fri, 27 Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/01/2023 05:06 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In message <k3fr4mFdk1lU2@mid.individual.net>, at 17:21:26
>>>>>>>>>>>>on Thu, 26 Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/01/2023 11:05 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In message <k3cm2jFglvcU1@mid.individual.net>, at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>12:36:36 on Wed, 25 Jan 2023, JNugent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/01/2023 07:37 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In message <k3agpbF6imaU2@mid.individual.net>, at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>16:54:04 on Tue, 24 Jan 2023, JNugent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Almost next door by American distances. Rust Belt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to California is similar to moving from London
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only in distance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect in culture too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have friends at either end of the United States.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And north to south too. There are indeed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>differences in culture between the extremes (and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>difference in culture between England and Turkey!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a start, you don't have to ask permission to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is political rather than cultural.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the USA, you just climb into the car in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pennsylvania and drive to California. All you need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to do en route is find a few motels and to fill up (man and machine).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No-one will ask you for your papers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try that on a road trip from Anatolia to Hertfordshire.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's policing, dictated by politics, not cultural.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's one large cultural difference for a start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just mentioned the thing you cited!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why the riddle, just say it again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Being asked for your papers! Maybe having to carry a
>>>>>>>>>>>translation of your licence and insurance. Having customs
>>>>>>>>>>>inspection of what's in the "trunk" at state borders.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's still policing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which has absolutely nothing to do with things like the
>>>>>>>>>>cultural differences between living in New York and the deep south.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've had lengthy stays in both (and in Texas, New Mexico,
>>>>>>>>>Kansas, Missouri and California).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They're not all that different.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Culturally they are completely different. Unless you
>>>>>>>>discovered a KKK clan operating in NYC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More different than a village in Hertfordshire and one outside
>>>>>>>Ankara?
>>>>
>>>>>> Don't know about Ankara (it may be fairly westernised being a
>>>>>>large Capital city) but I almost went to a conference in Antalya
>>>>>>(Anatolian coastline), which is a popular holiday resort.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and?
>>
>>>> That response of yours doesn't seem to add much...
>>>
>>> ...except to draw attention to the lack of meaningful content in the
>>>immediately preceding response.
>> Drawing attention to your perception of that.
>>
>>> Are you still insisting that there are no cultural differences
>>>between Turkish people in Turkey and British people in the United
>>>Kingdom?

>> That would be absurd. Of course there are cultural differences, just
>>not as significant as you claim.
>
>How "significant" have I said they are?
>
>They are what they are, irrespective of how "significant" they are.

Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've been
begging for it for moths if not years).
--
Roland Perry

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by: billy bookcase - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 21:31 UTC

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> Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've been begging for it for
> moths if not years).

Good call !

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by: JNugent - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 23:30 UTC

On 25/01/2024 03:46 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <k4a4piFf72sU2@mid.individual.net>, at 16:45:38 on Sun, 5 Feb
> 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>> On 05/02/2023 08:41 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>> In message <k47iqvF383eU2@mid.individual.net>, at 17:26:55 on Sat, 4
>>> Feb 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>> On 04/02/2023 03:44 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>> In message <k45q20Fpd07U3@mid.individual.net>, at 01:17:52 on Sat,
>>>>> 4 Feb 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>> On 01/02/2023 05:31 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>> In message <k3sfhlFbsh8U3@mid.individual.net>, at 12:23:17 on
>>>>>>> Tue, 31 Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>> On 31/01/2023 09:58 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In message <k3q084F6biU2@mid.individual.net>, at 13:49:57 on
>>>>>>>>> Mon, 30 Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2023 10:33 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In message <k3igfaFpv68U8@mid.individual.net>, at 17:37:47 on
>>>>>>>>>>> Fri, 27 Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/01/2023 05:06 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In message <k3fr4mFdk1lU2@mid.individual.net>, at 17:21:26
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Thu, 26 Jan 2023, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/01/2023 11:05 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In message <k3cm2jFglvcU1@mid.individual.net>, at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12:36:36 on Wed, 25 Jan 2023, JNugent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/01/2023 07:37 am, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In message <k3agpbF6imaU2@mid.individual.net>, at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16:54:04 on Tue, 24 Jan 2023, JNugent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jenningsandco@mail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Almost next door by American distances. Rust Belt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to California is similar to moving from London
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only in distance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect in culture too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have friends at either end of the United States.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And north to south too. There are indeed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences in culture between the extremes (and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference in culture between England and Turkey!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a start, you don't have to ask permission to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is political rather than cultural.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the USA, you just climb into the car in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania and drive to California. All you need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do en route is find a few motels and to fill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up (man and machine).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No-one will ask you for your papers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try that on a road trip from Anatolia to Hertfordshire.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's policing, dictated by politics, not cultural.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's one large cultural difference for a start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just mentioned the thing you cited!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why the riddle, just say it again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Being asked for your papers! Maybe having to carry a
>>>>>>>>>>>> translation of your licence and insurance. Having customs
>>>>>>>>>>>> inspection of what's in the "trunk" at state borders.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's still policing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Which has absolutely nothing to do with things like the
>>>>>>>>>>> cultural differences between living in New York and the deep
>>>>>>>>>>> south.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've had lengthy stays in both (and in Texas, New Mexico,
>>>>>>>>>> Kansas, Missouri and California).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They're not all that different.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Culturally they are completely different. Unless you
>>>>>>>>> discovered a KKK clan operating in NYC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More different than a village in Hertfordshire and one outside
>>>>>>>> Ankara?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't know about Ankara (it may be fairly westernised being a
>>>>>>> large Capital city) but I almost went to a conference in Antalya
>>>>>>> (Anatolian coastline), which is a popular holiday resort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and?
>>>
>>>>> That response of yours doesn't seem to add much...
>>>>
>>>> ...except to draw attention to the lack of meaningful content in the
>>>> immediately preceding response.
>>> Drawing attention to your perception of that.
>>>
>>>> Are you still insisting that there are no cultural differences
>>>> between Turkish people in Turkey and British people in the United
>>>> Kingdom?
>
>>> That would be absurd. Of course there are cultural differences, just
>>> not as significant as you claim.
>>
>> How "significant" have I said they are?
>> They are what they are, irrespective of how "significant" they are.
>
> Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've been
> begging for it for moths if not years).

Actually, I have never been much interested in entomology.

Is it one of your passions?

PS: The post to which you responded was dated 3rd February *2023*!

Why so long in responding? :-)

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by: kat - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:21 UTC

On 25/01/2024 23:30, JNugent wrote:
> On 25/01/2024 03:46 pm, Roland Perry wrote:

>> Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've been begging
>> for it for moths if not years).
>
> Actually, I have never been much interested in entomology.
>
> Is it one of your passions?
>
> PS: The post to which you responded was dated 3rd February *2023*!
>
> Why so long in responding? :-)
>
>

It certainly was an old moth-eaten post.
--
kat
>^..^<

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by: JNugent - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:40 UTC

On 26/01/2024 10:21 am, kat wrote:
> On 25/01/2024 23:30, JNugent wrote:
>> On 25/01/2024 03:46 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
>
>
>>> Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've been
>>> begging for it for moths if not years).
>>
>> Actually, I have never been much interested in entomology.
>>
>> Is it one of your passions?
>>
>> PS: The post to which you responded was dated 3rd February *2023*!
>>
>> Why so long in responding? :-)
>>
>>
>
> It certainly was an old moth-eaten post.

I expect there was a certain amount of trawling and mining which
preceded the response of yesterday's date.

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by: Roland Perry - Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:50 UTC

In message <l1hk0sFhbctU1@mid.individual.net>, at 11:40:12 on Fri, 26
Jan 2024, JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> remarked:
>On 26/01/2024 10:21 am, kat wrote:
>> On 25/01/2024 23:30, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 25/01/2024 03:46 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
>>
>>>> Plonk (and yes, there's little new content there because you've
>>>>been begging for it for moths if not years).
>>>
>>> Actually, I have never been much interested in entomology.
>>>
>>> Is it one of your passions?
>>>
>>> PS: The post to which you responded was dated 3rd February *2023*!
>>>
>>> Why so long in responding? :-)
>>>
>>>
>> It certainly was an old moth-eaten post.
>
>I expect there was a certain amount of trawling and mining which
>preceded the response of yesterday's date.

Nothing so exciting. Just my oldest unread/unflushed posting in ulm
(there's 3600 in total) which got invoked by some finger trouble.
--
Roland Perry

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by: JNugent - Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:25 UTC

Reputation, adj.: What others are not thinking about you.

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Re: Are Americans poorer than they used to be (was Re: Electric cars)	Roland Perry
Re: Are Americans poorer than they used to be (was Re: Electric cars)	billy bookcase
Re: Are Americans poorer than they used to be (was Re: Electric cars)	JNugent
Re: Are Americans poorer than they used to be (was Re: Electric cars)	kat
Re: Are Americans poorer than they used to be (was Re: Electric cars)	JNugent
Re: Are Americans poorer than they used to be (was Re: Electric cars)	Roland Perry
Re: Are Americans poorer than they used to be (was Re: Electric cars)	JNugent