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 by: Robert - Mon, 25 Mar 2024 14:52 UTC

If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes you think
you can?

Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I say unto
you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for
what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Jhn 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my
judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the
Father which hath sent me.

Jhn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in
him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

2Co 13:8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

We operate and life through Jesus Christ. The Heavenly Father is our root
source, Jesus the “Vine” which is dependent on the Root, and we, as
believers are the branches off the “Vine’. Hence we and do nothing agains
the source of all life, and we life because of the Life through Jesus Christ.

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 by: Michael Christ - Mon, 25 Mar 2024 21:53 UTC

On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes you think
> you can?

Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere, distortion,
subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures, and complete
delusion about Him that I have ever read!

And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus Christ
is NOT a created being; He is God!

> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I say unto
> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for
> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
Lord Jesus! None.

He lowered Himself, it didn't make Him not what He is! Philippians 2:6-11.

It is not that hard, Buddy.

It is like I choose to go into a company I own and willingly become an
employee to teach and show my employees the way, the truth, the life. I
do not stop being what I am, though, the boss—God.

>
> Jhn 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my
> judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the
> Father which hath sent me.

> Jhn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in
> him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
>
> 2Co 13:8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

You thinking about the meaning of the scriptures is carnal—wrong.

The Lord Jesus Christ is God and has always been God, the same
yesterday, today, and forever, HE IS NOT A CREATED BEING.

> We operate and life through Jesus Christ. The Heavenly Father is our root
> source, Jesus the “Vine” which is dependent on the Root, and we, as
> believers are the branches off the “Vine’. Hence we and do nothing agains
> the source of all life, and we life because of the Life through Jesus Christ.

You have no idea and have always worshiped yourself in your bible! You
all do that.

Without knowing the Lord, having a personal relationship with Him, you
don't know God or who He is!

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

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 by: Robert - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 03:02 UTC

On Mar 25, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <utsro4$1a83d$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
> > If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes you
> > think
> > you can?
>
> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere, distortion,
> subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures, and complete
> delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>
> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus Christ
> is NOT a created being; He is God!
>
> > Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I say unto
> > you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for
> > what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>
> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
> Lord Jesus! None.
>
> He lowered Himself, it didn't make Him not what He is! Philippians 2:6-11.
>
> It is not that hard, Buddy.
>
> It is like I choose to go into a company I own and willingly become an
> employee to teach and show my employees the way, the truth, the life. I
> do not stop being what I am, though, the boss—God.
>
> >
> > Jhn 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my
> > judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the
> > Father which hath sent me.
>
> > Jhn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in
> > him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
> >
> > 2Co 13:8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.
>
> You thinking about the meaning of the scriptures is carnal—wrong.
>
> The Lord Jesus Christ is God and has always been God, the same
> yesterday, today, and forever, HE IS NOT A CREATED BEING.

Could you shout a little louder? ;)
>
>
> > We operate and life through Jesus Christ. The Heavenly Father is our root
> > source, Jesus the “Vine” which is dependent on the Root, and we, as
> > believers are the branches off the “Vine’. Hence we and do nothing
> > agains
> > the source of all life, and we life because of the Life through Jesus
> > Christ.
>
> You have no idea and have always worshiped yourself in your bible! You
> all do that.
>
> Without knowing the Lord, having a personal relationship with Him, you
> don't know God or who He is!
>
> Michael Christ

You might consider yourself “God”, but even I can sure tell the
difference, and
You simply are nothing like the God I serve.

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 by: Michael Christ - Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:40 UTC

On 26/03/2024 2:02 pm, Robert wrote:
> On Mar 25, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <utsro4$1a83d$1@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes you
>>> think
>>> you can?
>>
>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere, distortion,
>> subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures, and complete
>> delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>
>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus Christ
>> is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>
>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I say unto
>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for
>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>
>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>
>> He lowered Himself, it didn't make Him not what He is! Philippians 2:6-11.
>>
>> It is not that hard, Buddy.
>>
>> It is like I choose to go into a company I own and willingly become an
>> employee to teach and show my employees the way, the truth, the life. I
>> do not stop being what I am, though, the boss—God.
>>
>>>
>>> Jhn 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my
>>> judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the
>>> Father which hath sent me.
>>
>>> Jhn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in
>>> him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
>>>
>>> 2Co 13:8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.
>>
>> You thinking about the meaning of the scriptures is carnal—wrong.
>>
>> The Lord Jesus Christ is God and has always been God, the same
>> yesterday, today, and forever, HE IS NOT A CREATED BEING.
>
> Could you shout a little louder? ;)

THE LORD JESUS IS NOT A CREATED DELUDED ROBERT RELIGION
BEING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

The Lord is not a Mary and you equal created being, Burpfest.

He is the Lord and God, and thou are not even a sandal tier compared to
Him and who He has always been!

>>> We operate and life through Jesus Christ. The Heavenly Father is our root
>>> source, Jesus the “Vine” which is dependent on the Root, and we, as
>>> believers are the branches off the “Vine’. Hence we and do nothing
>>> agains
>>> the source of all life, and we life because of the Life through Jesus
>>> Christ.
>>
>> You have no idea and have always worshiped yourself in your bible! You
>> all do that.
>>
>> Without knowing the Lord, having a personal relationship with Him, you
>> don't know God or who He is!
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
> You might consider yourself “God”, but even I can sure tell the
> difference, and
> You simply are nothing like the God I serve.

You are only a self-serving cowardly wanker, Roberto Religiono, and that
is on good day!

"You have no idea and have always worshiped yourself in your bible!"

You are free to quote me later or even now. :-).

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."


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 by: Rod E. - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:31 UTC

On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes you
>> think
>> you can?
>
> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere, distortion,
> subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures, and complete
> delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>
> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus Christ
> is NOT a created being; He is God!
>
>
>
>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I say
>> unto
>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>> do: for
>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>
> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
> Lord Jesus! None.
>
Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...

GROW A BRAIN.

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"Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:

> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>> you think
>>> you can?
>>
>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>
>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>
>>
>>
>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>> say unto
>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>> do: for
>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>
>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>
> Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>
> GROW A BRAIN.
>

Christians don't need brains,
they have "Faith".

"Whoever wishes to be a Christian, let him pluck out the
eyes of his reason...We must give reason a vacation and
enter a different school. We must refrain from consulting
reason. We must bid reason hold its peace; we must order
it to be dead. We must gouge out its eyes and pluck its
feathers...You must kill the other thoughts and the ways
of reason or of the flesh, for God detests them."

--Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)

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 by: Rod E. - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 20:17 UTC

On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>> you think
>>>> you can?
>>>
>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>
>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>> say unto
>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>>> do: for
>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>
>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>
>> Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>
>> GROW A BRAIN.
>>
>
> Christians don't need brains,
> they have "Faith".

We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said out of
context and backwards.

What no one needs is anger and hate. You, me, Michael, Robert,
none of us our survival as a species depends on our willingness
to stand by ready to help one another.

Yes, I am a buddhist practitioner and a Christian.

>
>
>
>
>
> "Whoever wishes to be a Christian, let him pluck out the
> eyes of his reason...We must give reason a vacation and
> enter a different school. We must refrain from consulting
> reason. We must bid reason hold its peace; we must order
> it to be dead. We must gouge out its eyes and pluck its
> feathers...You must kill the other thoughts and the ways
> of reason or of the flesh, for God detests them."
>
> --Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)

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 by: Michael Christ - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:21 UTC

On 31/03/2024 4:31 am, Rod E. wrote:
> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes you
>>> think
>>> you can?
>>
>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere, distortion,
>> subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures, and complete
>> delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>
>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>
>>
>>
>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I say
>>> unto
>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>> do: for
>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>
>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>
>    Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>
>    GROW A BRAIN.
>

You can't understand the scriptures with your brain.

Rom 10:10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness...

Michael Christ
--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

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 by: Michael Christ - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:24 UTC

On 31/03/2024 5:09 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>> you think
>>>> you can?
>>>
>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>
>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>> say unto
>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>>> do: for
>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>
>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>
>> Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>
>> GROW A BRAIN.
>>
>
> Christians don't need brains,
> they have "Faith".

Amen, Brainiac.

Michael Christ

>
>
>
>
>
> "Whoever wishes to be a Christian, let him pluck out the
> eyes of his reason...We must give reason a vacation and
> enter a different school. We must refrain from consulting
> reason. We must bid reason hold its peace; we must order
> it to be dead. We must gouge out its eyes and pluck its
> feathers...You must kill the other thoughts and the ways
> of reason or of the flesh, for God detests them."
>
> --Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

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 by: Michael Christ - Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:27 UTC

On 31/03/2024 7:17 am, Rod E. wrote:
> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>> you think
>>>>> you can?
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>
>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>> say unto
>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>>>> do: for
>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>
>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>
>>>      Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>
>>>      GROW A BRAIN.
>>>
>>
>>       Christians don't need brains,
>> they have "Faith".
>
>
>    We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said out of
> context and backwards.
>
>
>    What no one needs is anger and hate. You, me, Michael, Robert,
>    none of us our survival as a species depends on our willingness
>    to stand by ready to help one another.
>
>    Yes, I am a buddhist practitioner and a Christian.

You can't be both.

Buddha is dead.

Michael Christ

>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Whoever wishes to be a Christian, let him pluck out the
>> eyes of his reason...We must give reason a vacation and
>> enter a different school. We must refrain from consulting
>> reason. We must bid reason hold its peace; we must order
>> it to be dead. We must gouge out its eyes and pluck its
>> feathers...You must kill the other thoughts and the ways
>> of reason or of the flesh, for God detests them."
>>
>>          --Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."


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 by: Rod E. - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 01:32 UTC

On 3/30/2024 5:27 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 31/03/2024 7:17 am, Rod E. wrote:
>> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>>> you think
>>>>>> you can?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>>
>>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>>> say unto
>>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>>>>> do: for
>>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>>
>>>>      Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>>
>>>>      GROW A BRAIN.
>>>>
>>>
>>>       Christians don't need brains,
>>> they have "Faith".
>>
>>
>>     We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said out of
>> context and backwards.
>>
>>
>>     What no one needs is anger and hate. You, me, Michael, Robert,
>>     none of us our survival as a species depends on our willingness
>>     to stand by ready to help one another.
>>
>>     Yes, I am a buddhist practitioner and a Christian.
>
> You can't be both.

Yes you can. Not all Buddhists worship their ancestors or other Gods.

I wish you knew as much as you pretend to know.

>
> Buddha is dead.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Whoever wishes to be a Christian, let him pluck out the
>>> eyes of his reason...We must give reason a vacation and
>>> enter a different school. We must refrain from consulting
>>> reason. We must bid reason hold its peace; we must order
>>> it to be dead. We must gouge out its eyes and pluck its
>>> feathers...You must kill the other thoughts and the ways
>>> of reason or of the flesh, for God detests them."
>>>
>>>          --Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)
>>
>

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"Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in news:uu9s0l$16lr9$1@dont-
email.me:

> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>> you think
>>>>> you can?
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the
scriptures,
>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>
>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>> say unto
>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the
Father
>>>>> do: for
>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>
>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about
my
>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>
>>> Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>
>>> GROW A BRAIN.
>>>
>>
>> Christians don't need brains,
>> they have "Faith".
>
>
> We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said out of
> context and backwards.
>

Robert has made his claims clear enough.

"Why is the earth older than
all the stars in the heavens."
"Robert", Apr 10 2023
https://tinyurl.com/msmtjfpp

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 by: Michael Christ - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 21:00 UTC

On 31/03/2024 12:32 pm, Rod E. wrote:
> On 3/30/2024 5:27 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 31/03/2024 7:17 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>>>> you think
>>>>>>> you can?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>>>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>>>> say unto
>>>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>>>>>> do: for
>>>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>>>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>>>
>>>>>      Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>>>
>>>>>      GROW A BRAIN.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       Christians don't need brains,
>>>> they have "Faith".
>>>
>>>
>>>     We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said out
>>> of context and backwards.
>>>
>>>
>>>     What no one needs is anger and hate. You, me, Michael, Robert,
>>>     none of us our survival as a species depends on our willingness
>>>     to stand by ready to help one another.
>>>
>>>     Yes, I am a buddhist practitioner and a Christian.
>>
>> You can't be both.
>
>   Yes you can.

No, you can't.

If you don't believe me, ask your girlfriend Robert Religion.

But then, I can't count on him being truthful because he's "Duane
flexible" and makes things up as he goes according to the worshiping of
himself in the bible.

Michael Christ

> Not all Buddhists worship their ancestors or other Gods.
>
>   I wish you knew as much as you pretend to know.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Buddha is dead.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Whoever wishes to be a Christian, let him pluck out the
>>>> eyes of his reason...We must give reason a vacation and
>>>> enter a different school. We must refrain from consulting
>>>> reason. We must bid reason hold its peace; we must order
>>>> it to be dead. We must gouge out its eyes and pluck its
>>>> feathers...You must kill the other thoughts and the ways
>>>> of reason or of the flesh, for God detests them."
>>>>
>>>>          --Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)
>>>
>>
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."


Click here to read the complete article
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 by: Rod E. - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 23:36 UTC

On 3/31/2024 4:00 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 31/03/2024 12:32 pm, Rod E. wrote:
>> On 3/30/2024 5:27 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 31/03/2024 7:17 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>>>>> you think
>>>>>>>> you can?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the
>>>>>>> scriptures,
>>>>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>>>>> say unto
>>>>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the
>>>>>>>> Father
>>>>>>>> do: for
>>>>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea
>>>>>>> about my
>>>>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      GROW A BRAIN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       Christians don't need brains,
>>>>> they have "Faith".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said out
>>>> of context and backwards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     What no one needs is anger and hate. You, me, Michael, Robert,
>>>>     none of us our survival as a species depends on our willingness
>>>>     to stand by ready to help one another.
>>>>
>>>>     Yes, I am a buddhist practitioner and a Christian.
>>>
>>> You can't be both.
>>
>>    Yes you can.
>
> No, you can't.
>
> If you don't believe me, ask your girlfriend Robert Religion.

For you then: Buddhism began as self examination
to open ones mind to the good and reject evil. No gods
were included in this. It is a spiritual exercise to help
one remove bias and hate from the person and to purify
ones view. As you know nothing about the 8 fold path or
what it entails and teaches, I consider you as no more than
a blabbering moron on the subject.

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 by: Rod E. - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 23:37 UTC

On 3/30/2024 9:10 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in news:uu9s0l$16lr9$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>>> you think
>>>>>> you can?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the
> scriptures,
>>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>>
>>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>>> say unto
>>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the
> Father
>>>>>> do: for
>>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about
> my
>>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>>
>>>> Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>>
>>>> GROW A BRAIN.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Christians don't need brains,
>>> they have "Faith".
>>
>>
>> We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said out of
>> context and backwards.
>>
>
>
> Robert has made his claims clear enough.

Show me that you understand what he has said.

>
>
>
>
> "Why is the earth older than
> all the stars in the heavens."
> "Robert", Apr 10 2023
> https://tinyurl.com/msmtjfpp
>
>
>
>

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 by: Maximus - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 23:58 UTC

Rod E. wrote:
> On 3/31/2024 4:00 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 31/03/2024 12:32 pm, Rod E. wrote:
>>> On 3/30/2024 5:27 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 31/03/2024 7:17 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>>> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>>>>>> you think
>>>>>>>>> you can?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>>>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the
>>>>>>>> scriptures,
>>>>>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>>>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>>>>>> say unto
>>>>>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the
>>>>>>>>> Father
>>>>>>>>> do: for
>>>>>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea
>>>>>>>> about my
>>>>>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Before you do anything else, before you read anything
>>>>>>> further...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      GROW A BRAIN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Christians don't need brains,
>>>>>> they have "Faith".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said
>>>>> out of context and backwards.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     What no one needs is anger and hate. You, me, Michael, Robert,
>>>>>     none of us our survival as a species depends on our willingness
>>>>>     to stand by ready to help one another.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yes, I am a buddhist practitioner and a Christian.
>>>>
>>>> You can't be both.
>>>
>>>    Yes you can.
>>
>> No, you can't.
>>
>> If you don't believe me, ask your girlfriend Robert Religion.
>
>   For you then: Buddhism began as self examination
>   to open ones mind to the good and reject evil. No gods
>   were included in this. It is a spiritual exercise to help
>   one remove bias and hate from the person and to purify
>   ones view. As you know nothing about the 8 fold path or
>   what it entails and teaches, I consider you as no more than
>   a blabbering moron on the subject.
>
>

on any subject

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs cannot withstand reason, fact, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

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 by: Maximus - Mon, 1 Apr 2024 00:02 UTC

Rod E. wrote:
> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>> you think
>>>>> you can?
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>
>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>> say unto
>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>>>> do: for
>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>
>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>
>>>      Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>
>>>      GROW A BRAIN.
>>>
>>
>>       Christians don't need brains,
>> they have "Faith".
>
>
>    We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said out of
> context and backwards.
>
>
>    What no one needs is anger and hate. You, me, Michael, Robert,
>    none of us our survival as a species depends on our willingness
>    to stand by ready to help one another.

well said

>
>    Yes, I am a buddhist practitioner and a Christian.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Whoever wishes to be a Christian, let him pluck out the
>> eyes of his reason...We must give reason a vacation and
>> enter a different school. We must refrain from consulting
>> reason. We must bid reason hold its peace; we must order
>> it to be dead. We must gouge out its eyes and pluck its
>> feathers...You must kill the other thoughts and the ways
>> of reason or of the flesh, for God detests them."
>>
>>          --Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)
>

interesting quote

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs cannot withstand reason, fact, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

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 by: Mitchell Holman - Mon, 1 Apr 2024 01:26 UTC

"Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
news:uucs42$22jj0$2@dont-email.me:

> On 3/30/2024 9:10 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in news:uu9s0l$16lr9$1@dont-
>> email.me:
>>
>>> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world
>>>>>>> makes you think
>>>>>>> you can?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the
>> scriptures,
>>>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily,
>>>>>>> I say unto
>>>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the
>> Father
>>>>>>> do: for
>>>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea
>>>>>> about
>> my
>>>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Before you do anything else, before you read anything
>>>>> further...
>>>>>
>>>>> GROW A BRAIN.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christians don't need brains,
>>>> they have "Faith".
>>>
>>>
>>> We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said out
>>> of
>>> context and backwards.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Robert has made his claims clear enough.
>
>
> Show me that you understand what he has said.
>


Robert's claims are understandable,
they are just unproveable.

>>
>>
>> "Why is the earth older than
>> all the stars in the heavens."
>> "Robert", Apr 10 2023
>> https://tinyurl.com/msmtjfpp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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 by: Michael Christ - Mon, 1 Apr 2024 02:37 UTC

On 1/04/2024 10:36 am, Rod E. wrote:
> On 3/31/2024 4:00 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 31/03/2024 12:32 pm, Rod E. wrote:
>>> On 3/30/2024 5:27 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 31/03/2024 7:17 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>>> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>>>>>> you think
>>>>>>>>> you can?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>>>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the
>>>>>>>> scriptures,
>>>>>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>>>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>>>>>> say unto
>>>>>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the
>>>>>>>>> Father
>>>>>>>>> do: for
>>>>>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea
>>>>>>>> about my
>>>>>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Before you do anything else, before you read anything
>>>>>>> further...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      GROW A BRAIN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Christians don't need brains,
>>>>>> they have "Faith".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said out
>>>>> of context and backwards.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     What no one needs is anger and hate. You, me, Michael, Robert,
>>>>>     none of us our survival as a species depends on our willingness
>>>>>     to stand by ready to help one another.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yes, I am a buddhist practitioner and a Christian.
>>>>
>>>> You can't be both.
>>>
>>>    Yes you can.
>>
>> No, you can't.
>>
>> If you don't believe me, ask your girlfriend Robert Religion.
>
>   For you then: Buddhism began as self examination
>   to open ones mind to the good and reject evil. No gods
>   were included in this. It is a spiritual exercise to help
>   one remove bias and hate from the person and to purify
>   ones view. As you know nothing about the 8 fold path or
>   what it entails and teaches, I consider you as no more than
>   a blabbering moron on the subject.

So, to disagree with your Buddhist Christianity makes me a blabbering
moron? That doesn't sound like the Buddhism/Christianity combo has done
you much good, Rod.

You can't save yourself with Buddhism anymore than you can save yourself
with Christianity.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."


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 by: Rod E. - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 03:31 UTC

On 3/31/2024 9:37 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 1/04/2024 10:36 am, Rod E. wrote:
>> On 3/31/2024 4:00 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 31/03/2024 12:32 pm, Rod E. wrote:
>>>> On 3/30/2024 5:27 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 31/03/2024 7:17 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/30/2024 1:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:uu9i99$14d02$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>>>>>>> you think
>>>>>>>>>> you can?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>>>>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the
>>>>>>>>> scriptures,
>>>>>>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>>>>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>>>>>>> say unto
>>>>>>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the
>>>>>>>>>> Father
>>>>>>>>>> do: for
>>>>>>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea
>>>>>>>>> about my
>>>>>>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Before you do anything else, before you read anything
>>>>>>>> further...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      GROW A BRAIN.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       Christians don't need brains,
>>>>>>> they have "Faith".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     We do need brains. Michael is taking everything Robert said
>>>>>> out of context and backwards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     What no one needs is anger and hate. You, me, Michael, Robert,
>>>>>>     none of us our survival as a species depends on our willingness
>>>>>>     to stand by ready to help one another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yes, I am a buddhist practitioner and a Christian.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't be both.
>>>>
>>>>    Yes you can.
>>>
>>> No, you can't.
>>>
>>> If you don't believe me, ask your girlfriend Robert Religion.
>>
>>    For you then: Buddhism began as self examination
>>    to open ones mind to the good and reject evil. No gods
>>    were included in this. It is a spiritual exercise to help
>>    one remove bias and hate from the person and to purify
>>    ones view. As you know nothing about the 8 fold path or
>>    what it entails and teaches, I consider you as no more than
>>    a blabbering moron on the subject.
>
> So, to disagree with your Buddhist Christianity makes me a blabbering
> moron? That doesn't sound like the Buddhism/Christianity combo has done
> you much good, Rod.

It has done me much good! You ARE a blabbering moron that knows next
to nothing about Buddhism or it's tenants.

>
> You can't save yourself with Buddhism anymore than you can save yourself
> with Christianity.

Buddhism is a discipline, it was meant to refine the individual
and save them from their selves. Make them better people, helpful
and kind to their fellow men and creatures.

It was not created to save Christians. That is what Christianity is
for.

Goodnight, moron.

>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
>

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 by: Rod E. - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 01:37 UTC

On 3/30/2024 5:21 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 31/03/2024 4:31 am, Rod E. wrote:
>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>> you think
>>>> you can?
>>>
>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>
>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>> say unto
>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>>> do: for
>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>
>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>
>>     Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>
>>     GROW A BRAIN.
>>
>
> You can't understand the scriptures with your brain.
>
> Rom 10:10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness...

Wow! You are so stupid that maybe you can run for the United States
Congress!

>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ

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 by: Michael Christ - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 01:41 UTC

On 5/04/2024 12:37 pm, Rod E. wrote:
> On 3/30/2024 5:21 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 31/03/2024 4:31 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>> you think
>>>>> you can?
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the
>>>> scriptures, and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>
>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>> say unto
>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the
>>>>> Father do: for
>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>
>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about
>>>> my Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>
>>>     Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>
>>>     GROW A BRAIN.
>>>
>>
>> You can't understand the scriptures with your brain.
>>
>> Rom 10:10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness...
>
>
>   Wow! You are so stupid that maybe you can run for the United States
> Congress!

Is that what is in your heart, Rod?

If it is, you are not the softer Rod I used to know.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

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 by: Mitchell Holman - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 01:54 UTC

"Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in news:uunkke$13q9c$1@dont-email.me:

> On 3/30/2024 5:21 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 31/03/2024 4:31 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>> you think
>>>>> you can?
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>
>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>> say unto
>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>>>> do: for
>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>
>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>
>>>     Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>
>>>     GROW A BRAIN.
>>>
>>
>> You can't understand the scriptures with your brain.
>>
>> Rom 10:10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness...
>
>
> Wow! You are so stupid that maybe you can run for the United States
> Congress!

So many people come that that conclusion.....

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 by: Rod E. - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 04:19 UTC

On 4/4/2024 8:54 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in news:uunkke$13q9c$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 3/30/2024 5:21 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 31/03/2024 4:31 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>>> you think
>>>>>> you can?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>>
>>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>>> say unto
>>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>>>>> do: for
>>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>>
>>>>     Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>>
>>>>     GROW A BRAIN.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can't understand the scriptures with your brain.
>>>
>>> Rom 10:10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness...
>>
>>
>> Wow! You are so stupid that maybe you can run for the United States
>> Congress!
>
>
> So many people come that that conclusion.....
>
>
>
>

Ahahahahahaha1 Good one!

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 by: teslaStinker - Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:35 UTC

On 4/4/2024 9:19 PM, Rod E. wrote:
> On 4/4/2024 8:54 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:uunkke$13q9c$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 3/30/2024 5:21 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 31/03/2024 4:31 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>>> On 3/25/2024 4:53 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/03/2024 1:52 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>> If Jesus couldn’t to anything on his own, what in the world makes
>>>>>>> you think
>>>>>>> you can?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh dear! This one comment is all ways to "wrong," nowhere,
>>>>>> distortion, subtle spiritual wickedness, ignorance of the scriptures,
>>>>>> and complete delusion about Him that I have ever read!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the only way it can be addressed in one go is, the Lord Jesus
>>>>>> Christ is NOT a created being; He is God!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jhn 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I
>>>>>>> say unto
>>>>>>> you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father
>>>>>>> do: for
>>>>>>> what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your mindset is wrong about the scriptures: you have no idea about my
>>>>>> Lord Jesus! None.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Before you do anything else, before you read anything further...
>>>>>
>>>>> GROW A BRAIN.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can't understand the scriptures with your brain.
>>>>
>>>> Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness...
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow! You are so stupid that maybe you can run for the United States
>>> Congress!
>>
>>
>> So many people come that that conclusion.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Ahahahahahaha1 Good one!
I would not say this Bible is correct? For its an invalid Bible.

Why dont you try reading the rest of it protestant. We shall jump down
beyond it to show you, He did not say that.

"36 But I have a greater testimony than that of John: for the works
which the Father hath given me to perfect; the works themselves, which I
do, give testimony of me, that the Father hath sent me.

37 And the Father himself who hath sent me, hath given testimony of
me: neither have you heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

38 And you have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him
you believe not."

AND is why, you read a differ version.

Yet, the prophets told you in the old testament, He would come. And He
did. The same as Jesus told you, to listen to Moses.

ITs not about who has faith, but who is willing to exercise the works of
Jesus in truth. John, is not Jesus.


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