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From: michaelm...@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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 by: Michael Christ - Mon, 1 Apr 2024 21:36 UTC

(KJV)
Job 2:9  Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine
integrity? curse God, and die.

You could write a book on that verse.

Job would soon lose his "integrity," but what is his wife trying to get
him to do? She is trying to get him to choose himself, not God, like she
chooses herself and not God.

And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose.

Do you see how powerful the Lord is? At just one small point, He can
contain the universe. But I wrote it down—me, myself, I? Surely I must
be someone more important than another?

No.

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

All the glory is His and His alone.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

Re: God or self? That's your choice!

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From: rob...@no.way (Robert)
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 by: Robert - Mon, 1 Apr 2024 23:21 UTC

On Apr 1, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <uuf9cg$2m1bh$8@dont-email.me>):

> (KJV)
> Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine
> integrity? curse God, and die.
>
> You could write a book on that verse.
>
> Job would soon lose his "integrity," but what is his wife trying to get
> him to do? She is trying to get him to choose himself, not God, like she
> chooses herself and not God.

Had he lost his integrity satan would have declared victory. Satan never did.
>
>
> And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose.
>
> Do you see how powerful the Lord is? At just one small point, He can
> contain the universe. But I wrote it down—me, myself, I? Surely I must
> be someone more important than another?
>
> No.
>
> "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
> where God intends."
>
> All the glory is His and His alone.
>
> Michael Christ

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 by: Michael Christ - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 02:53 UTC

On 2/04/2024 10:21 am, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <uuf9cg$2m1bh$8@dont-email.me>):
>
>> (KJV)
>> Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine
>> integrity? curse God, and die.
>>
>> You could write a book on that verse.
>>
>> Job would soon lose his "integrity," but what is his wife trying to get
>> him to do? She is trying to get him to choose himself, not God, like she
>> chooses herself and not God.

Robert Religionisation wrote:
> Had he lost his integrity satan would have declared victory. Satan never did.

Oh, shut up, self-Robert.

Why did you think I wrote, his "integrity" in inverted commas?

No sinner has integrity (God's standard); you are a recalcitrant! If one
ever did, God would have had something on which to build, and the Lord
Jesus wouldn't have needed to die on the cross!

Doesn't that say everything about your religion, though? Oh yes, the
sinner "I've got my bible theology" Christianity of "integrity!" [vomit].

Why have I got a picture of Duane in my head right now? :-).

You didn't hear as usual; you don't want to hear! Thus you always reap
nowhere.

The post is about a free choice, not your holy man's qualities of faecal
matter!

"And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose."

Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him dust and
ashes—what he really was.

You, however, along with ChristRose, can carry on in your "superior"
religious pretense until you can't any longer with all the rest of
sinner Christianity.

That's your choice.

Michael Christ

>>
>>
>> And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose.
>>
>> Do you see how powerful the Lord is? At just one small point, He can
>> contain the universe. But I wrote it down—me, myself, I? Surely I must
>> be someone more important than another?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
>> where God intends."
>>
>> All the glory is His and His alone.
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

Re: God or self? That's your choice!

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 by: Robert - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 04:02 UTC

On Apr 1, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <uufrvf$2ukmg$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 2/04/2024 10:21 am, Robert wrote:
> > On Apr 1, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > (in article <uuf9cg$2m1bh$8@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > (KJV)
> > > Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine
> > > integrity? curse God, and die.
> > >
> > > You could write a book on that verse.
> > >
> > > Job would soon lose his "integrity," but what is his wife trying to get
> > > him to do? She is trying to get him to choose himself, not God, like she
> > > chooses herself and not God.
>
> Robert Religionisation wrote:
> > Had he lost his integrity satan would have declared victory. Satan never
> > did.
>
> Oh, shut up, self-Robert.
>
> Why did you think I wrote, his "integrity" in inverted commas?

LOL, because the Quotation marks are fixed in they hardware of the computer
you are using, of course.
>
>
> No sinner has integrity (God's standard); you are a recalcitrant! If one
> ever did, God would have had something on which to build, and the Lord
> Jesus wouldn't have needed to die on the cross!

God Himself has accounted men as ‘perfect’ for thousands of years.
Abraham who married his half sister was one of those, for example. Why is
that? Since Jesus was only a promised descendent of Abraham at that time.
>
>
> Doesn't that say everything about your religion, though? Oh yes, the
> sinner "I've got my bible theology" Christianity of "integrity!" [vomit].
>
> Why have I got a picture of Duane in my head right now? :-).
>
> You didn't hear as usual; you don't want to hear! Thus you always reap
> nowhere.

I read your nonsense, the words ‘written in ink’ as it were.

>
> The post is about a free choice, not your holy man's qualities of faecal
> matter!

Good thing that you are not a holy man, eh? ;)
>
>
> "And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose."
>
> Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him dust and
> ashes—what he really was.
>
> You, however, along with ChristRose, can carry on in your "superior"
> religious pretense until you can't any longer with all the rest of
> sinner Christianity.

Too bad you don’t know what the word ‘religious’ means.
>
>
> That's your choice.
>
> Michael Christ
>
> > >
> > >
> > > And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose.
> > >
> > > Do you see how powerful the Lord is? At just one small point, He can
> > > contain the universe. But I wrote it down—me, myself, I? Surely I must
> > > be someone more important than another?
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > > "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
> > > where God intends."
> > >
> > > All the glory is His and His alone.
> > >
> > > Michael Christ

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 by: Michael Christ - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 07:51 UTC

(Bullpooper Robert religion snipped)

You are clueless, Buddy.

"God or self."

"And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose."

Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him dust and
ashes—what he really was.

You, however, along with ChristRose, can carry on in your "superior"
religious pretense until you can't any longer with all the rest of
sinner Christianity.

Simple.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

Re: God or self? That's your choice!

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 by: Robert - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 15:00 UTC

On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <uugde6$2ukmg$5@dont-email.me>):

> (Bullpooper Robert religion snipped)
>
> You are clueless, Buddy.
>
> "God or self."
>
> "And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose."
>
> Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him dust and
> ashes—what he really was.

“There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was
perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.” (Job 1:1,
KJV)

By whose terms was that said?

“And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that
there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that
feareth God, and escheweth evil?” (Job 1:8, KJV)

There is obvious proof, from God, of the state of Job in whom God had full
confidence. Did he still have things to learn? Sure, but his heart was to the
God who blessed him. Just like King David. David was a man whom God loved
deeply, why? He committed previous sins, made errors, some worthy of death,
But he was a sinner saved by Grace, sins in that day, by faith, where
forgiven at that sin offering. Forgiven, totally. God saw the devotion,
contrition, and great Love for his God, above all else.

You would do well to turn to God, humbly.

>
>
> You, however, along with ChristRose, can carry on in your "superior"
> religious pretense until you can't any longer with all the rest of
> sinner Christianity.
>
> Simple.
>
> Michael Christ

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 by: Ted - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:08 UTC

Robert wrote:

> On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <uugde6$2ukmg$5@dont-email.me>):
>
> > (Bullpooper Robert religion snipped)
> >
> > You are clueless, Buddy.
> >
> > "God or self."
> >
> > "And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you
> > choose."
> >
> > Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him dust
> > and ashes—what he really was.
>
> “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man
> was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.”
> (Job 1:1, KJV)
>
> By whose terms was that said?
>
> “And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job,
> that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright
> man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” (Job 1:8, KJV)
>
> There is obvious proof, from God, of the state of Job in whom God had
> full confidence. Did he still have things to learn? Sure, but his
> heart was to the God who blessed him. Just like King David. David was
> a man whom God loved deeply, why? He committed previous sins, made
> errors, some worthy of death, But he was a sinner saved by Grace,
> sins in that day, by faith, where forgiven at that sin offering.
> Forgiven, totally. God saw the devotion, contrition, and great Love
> for his God, above all else.
>
> You would do well to turn to God, humbly.
>

We've all imagined a god to whom we've turned in humble contrition.
Many multiple times. You should know that.

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 by: Michael Christ - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 20:50 UTC

(snip Robert context to nowhere)

No, no Robert 'dead' context, 'self is God' for me, thanks.

There is no integrity in a sinner.

“There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was
perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.” (Job 1:1,
KJV)

Why was he perfect and upright? Because of who he was?

Then he didn't need to repent in dust and ashes, did he?

You are a clueless talking religious head and that is what you will
remain until you are judged.

Serves you right.

If you knew the Lord Jesus as the Father and not as your created being,
then you would understand.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

Re: God or self? That's your choice!

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 by: Robert - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 20:58 UTC

On Apr 2, 2024, Ted wrote
(in article <HIYON.118387$Sf59.6207@fx48.iad>):

> Robert wrote:
>
> > On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > (in article <uugde6$2ukmg$5@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > (Bullpooper Robert religion snipped)
> > >
> > > You are clueless, Buddy.
> > >
> > > "God or self."
> > >
> > > "And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you
> > > choose."
> > >
> > > Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him dust
> > > and ashes—what he really was.
> >
> > “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man
> > was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.”
> > (Job 1:1, KJV)
> >
> > By whose terms was that said?
> >
> > “And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job,
> > that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright
> > man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” (Job 1:8, KJV)
> >
> > There is obvious proof, from God, of the state of Job in whom God had
> > full confidence. Did he still have things to learn? Sure, but his
> > heart was to the God who blessed him. Just like King David. David was
> > a man whom God loved deeply, why? He committed previous sins, made
> > errors, some worthy of death, But he was a sinner saved by Grace,
> > sins in that day, by faith, where forgiven at that sin offering.
> > Forgiven, totally. God saw the devotion, contrition, and great Love
> > for his God, above all else.
> >
> > You would do well to turn to God, humbly.
>
> We've all imagined a god to whom we've turned in humble contrition.
> Many multiple times. You should know that.

With what outcome?

Re: God or self? That's your choice!

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 by: Ted - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 21:29 UTC

Robert wrote:

> On Apr 2, 2024, Ted wrote
> (in article <HIYON.118387$Sf59.6207@fx48.iad>):
>
> > Robert wrote:
> >
> > > On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > > (in article <uugde6$2ukmg$5@dont-email.me>):
> > >
> > > > (Bullpooper Robert religion snipped)
> > > >
> > > > You are clueless, Buddy.
> > > >
> > > > "God or self."
> > > >
> > > > "And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you
> > > > choose."
> > > >
> > > > Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him
> > > > dust and ashes—what he really was.
> > >
> > > “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that
> > > man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and
> > > eschewed evil.” (Job 1:1, KJV)
> > >
> > > By whose terms was that said?
> > >
> > > “And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant
> > > Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an
> > > upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” (Job 1:8,
> > > KJV)
> > >
> > > There is obvious proof, from God, of the state of Job in whom God
> > > had full confidence. Did he still have things to learn? Sure, but
> > > his heart was to the God who blessed him. Just like King David.
> > > David was a man whom God loved deeply, why? He committed previous
> > > sins, made errors, some worthy of death, But he was a sinner
> > > saved by Grace, sins in that day, by faith, where forgiven at
> > > that sin offering. Forgiven, totally. God saw the devotion,
> > > contrition, and great Love for his God, above all else.
> > >
> > > You would do well to turn to God, humbly.
> >
> > We've all imagined a god to whom we've turned in humble contrition.
> > Many multiple times. You should know that.
>
> With what outcome?

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 by: Robert - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 21:10 UTC

On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <uuhr32$3dvej$2@dont-email.me>):

> (snip Robert context to nowhere)
>
> No, no Robert 'dead' context, 'self is God' for me, thanks.

Than you for clearing that up for all. That was also the downfall for
Lucifer.
It only took you 30+ years to spill out the truth of who your god is.

>
>
> There is no integrity in a sinner.
>
> “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was
> perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.” (Job 1:1,
> KJV)
>
> Why was he perfect and upright? Because of who he was?
>
> Then he didn't need to repent in dust and ashes, did he?
>
> You are a clueless talking religious head and that is what you will
> remain until you are judged.
>
> Serves you right.
>
> If you knew the Lord Jesus as the Father and not as your created being,
> then you would understand.
>
> Michael Christ

Just as the serpent twisted the word of God to become god of the world, so do
you. That is clear and plain to see.

Small wonder you tell others they don't need the Holy Bible they can just
learn from you.

--
Michael McLean aka Michael Christ on April 2, 2024
Spoke thusly;
'self is God' for me, thanks.

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 by: Ted - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 21:31 UTC

Robert wrote:

> On Apr 2, 2024, Ted wrote
> (in article <HIYON.118387$Sf59.6207@fx48.iad>):
>
> > Robert wrote:
> >
> > > On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > > (in article <uugde6$2ukmg$5@dont-email.me>):
> > >
> > > > (Bullpooper Robert religion snipped)
> > > >
> > > > You are clueless, Buddy.
> > > >
> > > > "God or self."
> > > >
> > > > "And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you
> > > > choose."
> > > >
> > > > Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him
> > > > dust and ashes—what he really was.
> > >
> > > “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that
> > > man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and
> > > eschewed evil.” (Job 1:1, KJV)
> > >
> > > By whose terms was that said?
> > >
> > > “And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant
> > > Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an
> > > upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” (Job 1:8,
> > > KJV)
> > >
> > > There is obvious proof, from God, of the state of Job in whom God
> > > had full confidence. Did he still have things to learn? Sure, but
> > > his heart was to the God who blessed him. Just like King David.
> > > David was a man whom God loved deeply, why? He committed previous
> > > sins, made errors, some worthy of death, But he was a sinner
> > > saved by Grace, sins in that day, by faith, where forgiven at
> > > that sin offering. Forgiven, totally. God saw the devotion,
> > > contrition, and great Love for his God, above all else.
> > >
> > > You would do well to turn to God, humbly.

> >
> > We've all imagined a god to whom we've turned in humble contrition.
> > Many multiple times. You should know that.
>

> With what outcome?

The Holy Spirit descended as a dove. But then Satan showed me all the
kingdoms of the world and so I decided to worship him instead.

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 by: Robert - Tue, 2 Apr 2024 21:40 UTC

On Apr 2, 2024, Ted wrote
(in article <OO_ON.181985$JLvf.22460@fx44.iad>):

> Robert wrote:
>
> > On Apr 2, 2024, Ted wrote
> > (in article <HIYON.118387$Sf59.6207@fx48.iad>):
> >
> > > Robert wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > > > (in article <uugde6$2ukmg$5@dont-email.me>):
> > > >
> > > > > (Bullpooper Robert religion snipped)
> > > > >
> > > > > You are clueless, Buddy.
> > > > >
> > > > > "God or self."
> > > > >
> > > > > "And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you
> > > > > choose."
> > > > >
> > > > > Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him
> > > > > dust and ashes—what he really was.
> > > >
> > > > “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that
> > > > man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and
> > > > eschewed evil.” (Job 1:1, KJV)
> > > >
> > > > By whose terms was that said?
> > > >
> > > > “And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant
> > > > Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an
> > > > upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” (Job 1:8,
> > > > KJV)
> > > >
> > > > There is obvious proof, from God, of the state of Job in whom God
> > > > had full confidence. Did he still have things to learn? Sure, but
> > > > his heart was to the God who blessed him. Just like King David.
> > > > David was a man whom God loved deeply, why? He committed previous
> > > > sins, made errors, some worthy of death, But he was a sinner
> > > > saved by Grace, sins in that day, by faith, where forgiven at
> > > > that sin offering. Forgiven, totally. God saw the devotion,
> > > > contrition, and great Love for his God, above all else.
> > > >
> > > > You would do well to turn to God, humbly.
>
> > >
> > > We've all imagined a god to whom we've turned in humble contrition.
> > > Many multiple times. You should know that.
>
> > With what outcome?
>
> The Holy Spirit descended as a dove. But then Satan showed me all the
> kingdoms of the world and so I decided to worship him instead.

What a shame.


Michael McLean aka Michael Christ on April 2, 2024
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'self is God' for me, thanks.

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 by: Mitchell Holman - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 01:49 UTC

Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
news:0001HW.2BBCABBC0015882D30DD5A38F@news.eternal-september.org:

> On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <uuhr32$3dvej$2@dont-email.me>):
>
>> (snip Robert context to nowhere)
>>
>> No, no Robert 'dead' context, 'self is God' for me, thanks.
>
> Than you for clearing that up for all. That was also the downfall for
> Lucifer.
> It only took you 30+ years to spill out the truth of who your god is.
>
>>
>>
>> There is no integrity in a sinner.
>>
>> “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that
>> man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed
>> evil.” (Job 1:1, KJV)
>>
>> Why was he perfect and upright? Because of who he was?
>>
>> Then he didn't need to repent in dust and ashes, did he?
>>
>> You are a clueless talking religious head and that is what you will
>> remain until you are judged.
>>
>> Serves you right.
>>
>> If you knew the Lord Jesus as the Father and not as your created
>> being, then you would understand.
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
> Just as the serpent twisted the word of God to become god of the
> world, so do you. That is clear and plain to see.
>
> Small wonder you tell others they don't need the Holy Bible they can
> just learn from you.

And you are any different?

"I know the Lord, I know the reality
of Him, He communicates with me and
me with him, just like many other
people who walk by Faith".
"Robert", Feb 23 2024

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 by: Michael Christ - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 08:19 UTC

On 3/04/2024 8:10 am, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <uuhr32$3dvej$2@dont-email.me>):
>
>> (snip Robert context to nowhere)
>>
>> No, no Robert 'dead' context, 'self is God' for me, thanks.
>
> Than you for clearing that up for all. That was also the downfall for
> Lucifer.
> It only took you 30+ years to spill out the truth of who your god is.
>
>>
>>
>> There is no integrity in a sinner.
>>
>> “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was
>> perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.” (Job 1:1,
>> KJV)
>>
>> Why was he perfect and upright? Because of who he was?
>>
>> Then he didn't need to repent in dust and ashes, did he?
>>
>> You are a clueless talking religious head and that is what you will
>> remain until you are judged.
>>
>> Serves you right.
>>
>> If you knew the Lord Jesus as the Father and not as your created being,
>> then you would understand.
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
> Just as the serpent twisted the word of God to become god of the world, so do
> you. That is clear and plain to see.
>
> Small wonder you tell others they don't need the Holy Bible they can just
> learn from you.
>

Shaddup, you wanker. You don't know God or your bible or me.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

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 by: Michael Christ - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 08:31 UTC

On 3/04/2024 8:40 am, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2024, Ted wrote
> (in article <OO_ON.181985$JLvf.22460@fx44.iad>):
>
>> Robert wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2024, Ted wrote
>>> (in article <HIYON.118387$Sf59.6207@fx48.iad>):
>>>
>>>> Robert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>>>> (in article <uugde6$2ukmg$5@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> (Bullpooper Robert religion snipped)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are clueless, Buddy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "God or self."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you
>>>>>> choose."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him
>>>>>> dust and ashes—what he really was.
>>>>>
>>>>> “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that
>>>>> man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and
>>>>> eschewed evil.” (Job 1:1, KJV)
>>>>>
>>>>> By whose terms was that said?
>>>>>
>>>>> “And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant
>>>>> Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an
>>>>> upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” (Job 1:8,
>>>>> KJV)
>>>>>
>>>>> There is obvious proof, from God, of the state of Job in whom God
>>>>> had full confidence. Did he still have things to learn? Sure, but
>>>>> his heart was to the God who blessed him. Just like King David.
>>>>> David was a man whom God loved deeply, why? He committed previous
>>>>> sins, made errors, some worthy of death, But he was a sinner
>>>>> saved by Grace, sins in that day, by faith, where forgiven at
>>>>> that sin offering. Forgiven, totally. God saw the devotion,
>>>>> contrition, and great Love for his God, above all else.
>>>>>
>>>>> You would do well to turn to God, humbly.
>>
>>>>
>>>> We've all imagined a god to whom we've turned in humble contrition.
>>>> Many multiple times. You should know that.
>>
>>> With what outcome?
>>
>> The Holy Spirit descended as a dove. But then Satan showed me all the
>> kingdoms of the world and so I decided to worship him instead.
>
> What a shame.
>
> —
> Michael McLean aka Michael Christ on April 2, 2024
> Spoke thusly;
> 'self is God' for me, thanks.

Hahahahahahaha...

Michael Christ wrote:
> "(snip Robert context to nowhere)

> No, no Robert 'dead' context, 'self is God' for me, thanks."

Robert Religion stinks to high heaven with deceit calling his way the
truth! Yeah, right! :-).

What a monumental lying wanker!

Serves him right.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"


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Michael Christ wrote:

> On 3/04/2024 8:10 am, Robert wrote:
> > On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > (in article <uuhr32$3dvej$2@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > (snip Robert context to nowhere)
> > >
> > > No, no Robert 'dead' context, 'self is God' for me, thanks.
> >
> > Than you for clearing that up for all. That was also the downfall
> > for Lucifer.
> > It only took you 30+ years to spill out the truth of who your god
> > is.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > There is no integrity in a sinner.
> > >
> > > “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that
> > > man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and
> > > eschewed evil.” (Job 1:1, KJV)
> > >
> > > Why was he perfect and upright? Because of who he was?
> > >
> > > Then he didn't need to repent in dust and ashes, did he?
> > >
> > > You are a clueless talking religious head and that is what you
> > > will remain until you are judged.
> > >
> > > Serves you right.
> > >
> > > If you knew the Lord Jesus as the Father and not as your created
> > > being, then you would understand.
> > >
> > > Michael Christ
> >
> > Just as the serpent twisted the word of God to become god of the
> > world, so do you. That is clear and plain to see.
> >
> > Small wonder you tell others they don't need the Holy Bible they
> > can just learn from you.

How ironic.

> >
>
> Shaddup, you wanker. You don't know God or your bible or me.
>
>
>
> Michael Christ

Robert regularly shits on the Bible. He's hardly its champion.

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30 But if the Lord do a new thing, and the earth opening her mouth
swallow them down, and all things that belong to them, and they go down
alive into hell, you shall know that they have blasphemed the Lord.

31 And immediately as he had made an end of speaking, the earth broke
asunder under their feet: 32 And opening her mouth, devoured them with
their tents and all their substance. 33 And they went down alive into
hell, the ground closing upon them, and they perished from among the
people.

On 4/1/2024 2:36 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> (KJV)
> Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine
> integrity? curse God, and die.
>
> You could write a book on that verse.
>
> Job would soon lose his "integrity," but what is his wife trying to get
> him to do? She is trying to get him to choose himself, not God, like she
> chooses herself and not God.
>
> And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose.
>
> Do you see how powerful the Lord is? At just one small point, He can
> contain the universe. But I wrote it down—me, myself, I? Surely I must
> be someone more important than another?
>
> No.
>
> "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
> where God intends."
>
> All the glory is His and His alone.
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>

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 by: Michael Christ - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 20:21 UTC

On 4/04/2024 6:08 am, Ted wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> On 3/04/2024 8:10 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <uuhr32$3dvej$2@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> (snip Robert context to nowhere)
>>>>
>>>> No, no Robert 'dead' context, 'self is God' for me, thanks.
>>>
>>> Than you for clearing that up for all. That was also the downfall
>>> for Lucifer.
>>> It only took you 30+ years to spill out the truth of who your god
>>> is.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no integrity in a sinner.
>>>>
>>>> “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that
>>>> man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and
>>>> eschewed evil.” (Job 1:1, KJV)
>>>>
>>>> Why was he perfect and upright? Because of who he was?
>>>>
>>>> Then he didn't need to repent in dust and ashes, did he?
>>>>
>>>> You are a clueless talking religious head and that is what you
>>>> will remain until you are judged.
>>>>
>>>> Serves you right.
>>>>
>>>> If you knew the Lord Jesus as the Father and not as your created
>>>> being, then you would understand.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>> Just as the serpent twisted the word of God to become god of the
>>> world, so do you. That is clear and plain to see.
>>>
>>> Small wonder you tell others they don't need the Holy Bible they
>>> can just learn from you.
>
>
> How ironic.
>
>
>>>
>>
>> Shaddup, you wanker. You don't know God or your bible or me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
>
> Robert regularly shits on the Bible. He's hardly its champion.

Totally.

Robert and ChristRose merely use the bible to worship themselves.

That is the truth.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

Re: God or self? That's your choice!

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 by: Michael Christ - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 20:24 UTC

On 4/04/2024 7:00 am, teslaStinker wrote:
> 30 But if the Lord do a new thing, and the earth opening her mouth
> swallow them down, and all things that belong to them, and they go down
> alive into hell, you shall know that they have blasphemed the Lord.
>
>  31 And immediately as he had made an end of speaking, the earth broke
> asunder under their feet: 32 And opening her mouth, devoured them with
> their tents and all their substance. 33 And they went down alive into
> hell, the ground closing upon them, and they perished from among the
> people.

"And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose.

Do you see how powerful the Lord is? At just one small point, He can
contain the universe."

Michael Christ

>
> On 4/1/2024 2:36 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> (KJV)
>> Job 2:9  Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine
>> integrity? curse God, and die.
>>
>> You could write a book on that verse.
>>
>> Job would soon lose his "integrity," but what is his wife trying to get
>> him to do? She is trying to get him to choose himself, not God, like she
>> chooses herself and not God.
>>
>> And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you choose.
>>
>> Do you see how powerful the Lord is? At just one small point, He can
>> contain the universe. But I wrote it down—me, myself, I? Surely I must
>> be someone more important than another?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
>> where God intends."
>>
>> All the glory is His and His alone.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

Re: God or self? That's your choice!

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 by: Michael Christ - Wed, 3 Apr 2024 21:49 UTC

On 3/04/2024 7:58 am, Robert wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2024, Ted wrote
> (in article <HIYON.118387$Sf59.6207@fx48.iad>):
>
>> Robert wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <uugde6$2ukmg$5@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> (Bullpooper Robert religion snipped)
>>>>
>>>> You are clueless, Buddy.
>>>>
>>>> "God or self."
>>>>
>>>> "And that, my friends, sums all of life up: choice, what you
>>>> choose."
>>>>
>>>> Job chose God. That didn't make him righteous; that made him dust
>>>> and ashes—what he really was.
>>>
>>> “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man
>>> was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.”
>>> (Job 1:1, KJV)
>>>
>>> By whose terms was that said?
>>>
>>> “And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job,
>>> that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright
>>> man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” (Job 1:8, KJV)
>>>
>>> There is obvious proof, from God, of the state of Job in whom God had
>>> full confidence. Did he still have things to learn? Sure, but his
>>> heart was to the God who blessed him. Just like King David. David was
>>> a man whom God loved deeply, why? He committed previous sins, made
>>> errors, some worthy of death, But he was a sinner saved by Grace,
>>> sins in that day, by faith, where forgiven at that sin offering.
>>> Forgiven, totally. God saw the devotion, contrition, and great Love
>>> for his God, above all else.
>>>
>>> You would do well to turn to God, humbly.

Ted wrote:
>> We've all imagined a god to whom we've turned in humble contrition.
>> Many multiple times. You should know that.

Robert
> With what outcome?

You see here, Ted, how the snake is slithering away from the point?

That is how spiritual wickedness (self is God) operates.

I always hoped he would turn away from worshiping himself in his bible,
but that is not going to happen.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."


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