On Feb 25, 2024, ChristRose wrote
(in article<4bhlti9tq9bt1nqotnqhsp3ti8dhgrsfrq@4ax.com>):

>
> > Speaking of which the old
> > covenant had in it the provisions for healings and miracles of the Lord for
> > those days.
>
> You must appeal to and try to confuse
> the old covenant with the new, because
> the New covenant does not promise
> physical healing and physical blessings,
> but superior, spiritual blessings.

“Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being
dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were
healed.” (1Pe 2:24)

“But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our
iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes
we are healed.” (Isa 53:5)

According to God, and not you, Jesus spoke and said this IS part of the
Kingdom of God.

“And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God
is come nigh unto you.” (Luk 10:9)

So the theology of your mind has been shown to be in total error, as this was
written 2K years before you ever held a Bible in your hands.

NOW is the time to establish HIS WORD into your heart and by the renewing of
your mind, there too as well.

Not only do you deny this to all those “10’s of thousands” who read
you, but to those in any congregations you preach to, PLUS, you deny the
availability of these things to not only yourself (which is bad enough) but
to your family as well. The people who expect you to love them and have their
best interest in heart.

On Feb 25, 2024, ChristRose wrote
(in article<16gnti90qssaqgi38gg2g0jasnkbmji3hs@4ax.com>):

> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 09:59:45 -0800,
> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote:
>
> <0001HW.2B8BB791000C8CB430A4F538F@news.eternal-september.org>
>
> > On Feb 25, 2024, ChristRose wrote
> > (in article<4bhlti9tq9bt1nqotnqhsp3ti8dhgrsfrq@4ax.com>):
> >
> > >
> > > > Speaking of which the old
> > > > covenant had in it the provisions for healings and miracles of the Lord
> > > > for
> > > > those days.
> > >
> > > You must appeal to and try to confuse
> > > the old covenant with the new, because
> > > the New covenant does not promise
> > > physical healing and physical blessings,
> > > but superior, spiritual blessings.
> >
> > “Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we,
> > being
> > dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were
> > healed.” (1Pe 2:24)
>
> If you don't right there, in that verse,
> it's talking about being healed with
> regard to our sins and the ability to
> live righteously, and not talking about
> physical healing, then I can't help you.

What an ego, it is the Lord that works within, If one allows him to.

“That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.” (Mat 8:17)

v24 in Peter where healing was mentioned is related to sickness, etc.

Else why does your sin nature constantly rear its ugly head? It is the
Heavenly Father who imparts to us His righteousness, what does that
“heal”?

Born Again, is rebirth, not healing.

James speaks of Healings of the body, when one goes to their elders for pray,
and then it says, “and IF they gave committed any sin, it shall be forgiven
them”, but not you.

Praise the Lord, I have him to lean on, and not you. I also have his word
which counters yours, so you are correct, You cannot help anyone.

So is there any reason I should read the rest of this post?

>
>
> > “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our
> > iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes
> > we are healed.” (Isa 53:5)
>
> Which, as you point out from Peter,
> refers to believers being healed from
> their sins and enabled to live
> righteously. That's how it applies to
> us.
>
> > According to God, and not you, Jesus spoke and said this IS part of the
> > Kingdom of God.
> >
> > “And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God
> > is come nigh unto you.” (Luk 10:9)
>
> At that time, Jesus was offering Israel
> the kingdom promised in the OT. The
> healings validated the Kingdom message,
> and Jesus as Messiah (Matthew 11:2-6).
>
> “And when John had heard in prison about
> the works of Christ, he sent two of his
> disciples and said to Him, “Are You the
> Coming One, or do we look for another?”
> Jesus answered and said to them, “Go and
> tell John the things which you hear and
> see: The blind see and the lame walk;
> the lepers are cleansed and the deaf
> hear; the dead are raised up and the
> poor have the gospel preached to them.
> And blessed is he who is not offended
> because of Me.”” (Matthew 11:2–6, NKJV)
>
> We know that Israel rejected Christ as
> the Messiah, so he postponed His kingdom
> plan, and God opened the door of
> salvation to the Gentiles (Romans 9-11).
> Thus, this was a temporary condition
> that was intended to validate Christ as
> the Messiah to Israel. In like manner,
> the gospel message was validated by
> signs and wonders when it first came out
> to the church (Hebrews 2:3).
>
> So as much as you are malcontended with
> the superior, spiritual blessings
> offered to the church in the New
> Covenant, physical healing is not
> something God promises to church-age
> believers.
>
> That's not to say God cannot or never
> will heal a person who requests it in
> answer prayer, or that it's wrong to ask
> for physical healing, just that it's not
> a promise that you can demand of God, or
> even expect as something you're entitled
> to.
>
> You should acknowledge God's superior
> understanding and will about what's best
> for you, and pray "nevertheless, not my
> will but thine be done". You should
> trust that God will do what's best, even
> if that doesn't mean you getting
> physical healing and physical blessings.
>
> > So the theology of your mind has been shown to be in total error, as this
> > was
> > written 2K years before you ever held a Bible in your hands.
>
> In your carnal, malcontented delusions
> (see above).
>
> > NOW is the time to establish HIS WORD into your heart and by the renewing of
> > your mind, there too as well.
>
> Sorry, but misappropriating (in
> malcontentment) promises that were never
> made to the church, is not part of
> renewing my mind.
>
> > Not only do you deny this to all those “10’s of thousands” who read
> > you, but to those in any congregations you preach to,
>
> Christ is the substance of which the Old
> Covenant was just a shadow. It is the
> spiritual blessings which are the
> superior blessings, not the physical.
>
> You accuse people who are content with
> the superior blessings of the New
> Covenant of being carnal, when it is you
> who is malcontented and carnal (like
> Esau who sold his birthright for a
> single bowl of soup to fill his physical
> belly), for promoting malcontenment with
> the New Covenant blessings God promised
> to the church.
>
> > PLUS, you deny the
> > availability of these things to not only yourself (which is bad enough) but
> > to your family as well. The people who expect you to love them and have
> > their
> > best interest in heart.
>
> Non-sequitur. It does not follow that
> acknowledging God's will in prayer
> ("nevertheless not my will, but thine be
> done"), somehow robs people of what is
> best for them or owed to them. You don't
> know what's best for people, God does.
> Physical healing may or may not be
> what's best for God's people at any
> given time.
>
> For example, God intended for Paul to be
> buffeted by thorns in the flesh, to keep
> him from becoming arrogant about the
> revelations God gave him. According to
> you, Paul would have been better off if
> those thorns in the flesh were removed,
> so God robbed him of that healing. In
> reality, God knew that without them,
> Paul would have become arrogant and
> unfit for ministry.
>
> You promote malcontentment with God's
> will being done, as if you know better
> (arrogance), and you promote
> malcontentment with the superior
> spiritual promises God offers in the New
> Covenant ("profane" like Esau).
>
> For measure, you label those who
> acknowledge that God knows better and
> who are content with the superior,
> spiritual blessings, as being the ones
> who are "carnal" and who lack faith. It
> is you who is carnal and who lacks faith
> in God's superior wisdom and spiritual
> blessings, like Esau.