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 by: Michael Christ - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 22:48 UTC

On 6/04/2024 2:47 am, % wrote:
> none@none.org wrote:
>>
>> Pastor Duane part #1
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gAuec23M0Q&list=WL&index=3&t=6s
>>
>> This is for everyone to see and know how a Born Again Believer should
>> me and
>> why they are not, or at least many of them are not. This is all about the
>> Word of God, and the simple fact of a new believer is weak and needs
>> "milk".
>>
>> That we should not condemn others of belittle them personally, that we
>> should
>> act out of love with kindness.
>>
>> I realize these teachings fly in the face of some, but everyone who
>> thinks
>> they are a christian will have a lot to learn in these series. We can all
>> grow.
>>
>> Immaturity is a product of not reading the Bible, spiritually speaking.
>>
> no it's not

True, "mature yourself bible-ism?"  But did you see the inevitable
"should?"

"Every sermon in Sinner Christianity is false!

Why?

Because they don't LIVE what they preach!

Simple."

"Born again believer shouldas" is not born again at all!

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

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 by: tesla sTinker ofm mi - Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:56 UTC

On 4/5/2024 3:48 PM, Michael Christ scribbled:
> On 6/04/2024 2:47 am, % wrote:
>> none@none.org wrote:
>>>
>>> Pastor Duane part #1
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gAuec23M0Q&list=WL&index=3&t=6s
>>>
>>> This is for everyone to see and know how a Born Again Believer should
>>> me and
>>> why they are not, or at least many of them are not. This is all about
>>> the
>>> Word of God, and the simple fact of a new believer is weak and needs
>>> "milk".
>>>
>>> That we should not condemn others of belittle them personally, that
>>> we should
>>> act out of love with kindness.
>>>
>>> I realize these teachings fly in the face of some, but everyone who
>>> thinks
>>> they are a christian will have a lot to learn in these series. We can
>>> all
>>> grow.
>>>
>>> Immaturity is a product of not reading the Bible, spiritually speaking.
>>>
>> no it's not
>
> True, "mature yourself bible-ism?" But did you see the inevitable
> "should?"
>
> "Every sermon in Sinner Christianity is false!
>
> Why?
>
> Because they don't LIVE what they preach!
>
> Simple."
>
> "Born again believer shouldas" is not born again at all!
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>

And you have no idea what sin is. I turn you to the true catholic
church to learn, cause SHE, is God's Church, the writing of the saints.
Be careful with NEW Advent, he is a prideful person, and is
Novus Ordo. So he is the kind that would change literature and has/
he has put his hancock on the entire catholic encyclopedia, and that is
not ok. Which means, he does not like it like it was... AND he
thinks, just because he put it all together on digital, he could put
adds in it, and charge money for it. THIS, is Simony, a mortal sin, so
do not expect to see him in Heaven, unless he confesses the sin of it.
We would like everyone to get a Summa theologica of Saint Thomas, but
the copy we have, for it uses the true Bible, not the false one, and
today, they made a false Douay Rhiems in the Novus Ordo, so they direct
you into sin yes/ Use only the old one. King James version was made
from the newer scrolls, the Douay Rheims was made from the older set.
This part the reason we stress to not use the new version. Yet, they
have their problems, Latin to english is not so easy, and there are
several languages in the scrolls yes. So to put it into latin first, is
another problem of translation, yet, little is known of the King James
version of who translated it. And its never going to be known
all the languages of correct interpretation, this is part of the curse
on the people of the tower of Babel, yet is was a curse made to the
people in that area and it states forever by God in the true DRV.
So, its not like He does not know we have this handicap everyone, yet,
we are cursed for the tower of Babel, only the people in Babylonia were.
Iraq today,,,, That is whats wrong with all of them, hammas,
thats a new for the same people.

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 by: Michael Christ - Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:53 UTC

On 28/04/2024 4:56 am, tesla sTinker ofm minim wrote:
>
>
> On 4/5/2024 3:48 PM, Michael Christ scribbled:
>> On 6/04/2024 2:47 am, % wrote:
>>> none@none.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Pastor Duane part #1
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gAuec23M0Q&list=WL&index=3&t=6s
>>>>
>>>> This is for everyone to see and know how a Born Again Believer should
>>>> me and
>>>> why they are not, or at least many of them are not. This is all about
>>>> the
>>>> Word of God, and the simple fact of a new believer is weak and needs
>>>> "milk".
>>>>
>>>> That we should not condemn others of belittle them personally, that
>>>> we should
>>>> act out of love with kindness.
>>>>
>>>> I realize these teachings fly in the face of some, but everyone who
>>>> thinks
>>>> they are a christian will have a lot to learn in these series. We can
>>>> all
>>>> grow.
>>>>
>>>> Immaturity is a product of not reading the Bible, spiritually speaking.

% wrote:
>>> no it's not

Michael Christ wrote:
>> True, "mature yourself bible-ism?"  But did you see the inevitable
>> "should?"
>>
>> "Every sermon in Sinner Christianity is false!
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Because they don't LIVE what they preach!
>>
>> Simple."
>>
>> "Born again believer shouldas" is not born again at all!

Tesla spake:
> And you have no idea what sin is.

Sin is what it has always been, not loving God with all your heart,
soul, and mind.

> I turn you to the true catholic
> church to learn, cause SHE, is God's Church,  the writing of the saints.
>  Be careful with NEW Advent,  he is a prideful person, and is
> Novus Ordo.  So he is the kind that would change literature and has/
> he has put his hancock on the entire catholic encyclopedia, and that is
> not ok.  Which means, he does not like it like it was...   AND he
> thinks, just because he put it all together on digital, he could put
> adds in it, and charge money for it.  THIS, is Simony, a mortal sin, so
> do not expect to see him in Heaven, unless he confesses the sin of it.
> We would like everyone to get a Summa theologica of Saint Thomas, but
> the copy we have, for it uses the true Bible, not the false one, and
> today, they made a false Douay Rhiems in the Novus Ordo, so they direct
> you into sin yes/  Use only the old one.  King James version was made
> from the newer scrolls,  the Douay Rheims was made from the older set.
> This part the reason we stress to not use the new version. Yet, they
> have their problems,  Latin to english is not so easy, and there are
> several languages in the scrolls yes.  So to put it into latin first, is
> another problem of translation, yet, little is known of the King James
> version of who translated it.  And its never going to be known
> all the languages of correct interpretation, this is part of the curse
> on the people of the tower of Babel, yet is was a curse made to the
> people in that area and it states forever by God in the true DRV.
> So, its not like He does not know we have this handicap everyone,  yet,
> we are cursed for the tower of Babel, only the people in Babylonia were.
>  Iraq today,,,,   That is whats wrong with all of them, hammas,
> thats a new for the same people.

What is all the institutional religion on earth worth is a man does not
love God with all of his being?

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."


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