On 4/13/2024 10:56 PM, Maximus wrote:
> Dawn Flood wrote:
>
>> On 4/12/2024 9:50 AM, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 23:39:50 -0500
>>> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/11/2024 10:56 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 12/04/2024 3:27 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>>>>> (in article <uv84kf$1i09q$2@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/04/2024 3:26 pm, One God wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:50:29 -0700
>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Robert,
>>>>
>>>> The Bible is a Lucky Charms box; you can make it say whatever you
>>>> want it to say, otherwise known as the Confirmation Bias.
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> In fact the beauty of the Bible is finding conformation from
>>> different gospels written at different times.
>>>
>>> And then there is the wealth of material unearthed at Nag Hammadi -
>>> read the gnostic gospels for clues.
>>>
>>> Or just keep being an ostrich if that suits your secular stupidity.
>>>
>>
>> Different Answer #3.
>>
>> P.S. None of you agree on anything.
>
> That alone proves they're wrong.
>

Agreed. The theologians, unlike all scientists, have no laboratory
where they can test, let alone falsify, their ideas.

Dawn

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 12:02:13 -0500
Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/13/2024 10:56 PM, Maximus wrote:
> > Dawn Flood wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/12/2024 9:50 AM, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 23:39:50 -0500
> >>> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/11/2024 10:56 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >>>>> On 12/04/2024 3:27 am, Robert wrote:
> >>>>>> On Apr 11, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> >>>>>> (in article <uv84kf$1i09q$2@dont-email.me>):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 11/04/2024 3:26 pm, One God wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:50:29 -0700
> >>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Robert,
> >>>>
> >>>> The Bible is a Lucky Charms box; you can make it say whatever you
> >>>> want it to say, otherwise known as the Confirmation Bias.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dawn
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Nope.
> >>>
> >>> In fact the beauty of the Bible is finding conformation from
> >>> different gospels written at different times.
> >>>
> >>> And then there is the wealth of material unearthed at Nag Hammadi
> >>> - read the gnostic gospels for clues.
> >>>
> >>> Or just keep being an ostrich if that suits your secular
> >>> stupidity.
> >>
> >> Different Answer #3.
> >>
> >> P.S. None of you agree on anything.
> >
> > That alone proves they're wrong.
> >
>
> Agreed. The theologians, unlike all scientists, have no laboratory
> where they can test, let alone falsify, their ideas.
>
> Dawn

Never heard of CERN have ya?

Dizzy twat.

On 4/14/2024 12:03 PM, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 12:02:13 -0500
> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/13/2024 10:56 PM, Maximus wrote:
>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/12/2024 9:50 AM, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 23:39:50 -0500
>>>>> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/11/2024 10:56 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/04/2024 3:27 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article <uv84kf$1i09q$2@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2024 3:26 pm, One God wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:50:29 -0700
>>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Bible is a Lucky Charms box; you can make it say whatever you
>>>>>> want it to say, otherwise known as the Confirmation Bias.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact the beauty of the Bible is finding conformation from
>>>>> different gospels written at different times.
>>>>>
>>>>> And then there is the wealth of material unearthed at Nag Hammadi
>>>>> - read the gnostic gospels for clues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or just keep being an ostrich if that suits your secular
>>>>> stupidity.
>>>>
>>>> Different Answer #3.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. None of you agree on anything.
>>>
>>> That alone proves they're wrong.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed. The theologians, unlike all scientists, have no laboratory
>> where they can test, let alone falsify, their ideas.
>>
>> Dawn
>
> Never heard of CERN have ya?
>
> Dizzy twat.
>

What does CERN have anything to do with any of this?

Dawn

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 12:04:40 -0500
Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/14/2024 12:03 PM, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 12:02:13 -0500
> > Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/13/2024 10:56 PM, Maximus wrote:
> >>> Dawn Flood wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/12/2024 9:50 AM, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 23:39:50 -0500
> >>>>> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4/11/2024 10:56 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 12/04/2024 3:27 am, Robert wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> >>>>>>>> (in article <uv84kf$1i09q$2@dont-email.me>):
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2024 3:26 pm, One God wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:50:29 -0700
> >>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Robert,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Bible is a Lucky Charms box; you can make it say whatever
> >>>>>> you want it to say, otherwise known as the Confirmation Bias.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dawn
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nope.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In fact the beauty of the Bible is finding conformation from
> >>>>> different gospels written at different times.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And then there is the wealth of material unearthed at Nag
> >>>>> Hammadi
> >>>>> - read the gnostic gospels for clues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or just keep being an ostrich if that suits your secular
> >>>>> stupidity.
> >>>>
> >>>> Different Answer #3.
> >>>>
> >>>> P.S. None of you agree on anything.
> >>>
> >>> That alone proves they're wrong.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Agreed. The theologians, unlike all scientists, have no laboratory
> >> where they can test, let alone falsify, their ideas.
> >>
> >> Dawn
> >
> > Never heard of CERN have ya?
> >
> > Dizzy twat.
> >
>
> What does CERN have anything to do with any of this?
>
> Dawn

I just dismissed your lie:

"The theologians, unlike all scientists, have no laboratory
where they can test, let alone falsify, their ideas."

https://youtu.be/t3IfGmx58M8

Description
The Dead Sea Scrolls - An Exclusive Peek Into the Lab - Dr. Joe Uziel

https://phys.org/news/2010-07-protons-dead-sea-scrolls.html

The analyses, which were conducted by INFN physicists in collaboration with researchers from IBAM-CNR, have revealed that one of the Dead Sea Scrolls, in particular, the Temple Scroll (which is not part of the biblical narration and instead describes the construction and life of a temple and dictates how laws are to be communicated to the people), may have been made near the Dead Sea, in the area of Qumran, where the scrolls were found. In other words, the scrolls may have been created locally.

The analyses were conducted on seven small samples of the scrolls (average size of one square centimetre), following a request made by Dr. Ira Rabin of BAM (Bundesanstalt fur Materialforschung) in Berlin. The scrolls belong to the Shrine of the Book of the Israel Museum and the Ronald Reed Collection of the John Rylands University Library.

At the LANDIS laboratory (one of the INFN laboratories in Catania), non-destructive analyses were performed to obtain results on the origin of the scrolls. To produce a scroll, which was the writing material used at the time, a great quantity of water is needed. By analysing water samples taken in the area where the scrolls were found, the presence of certain chemical elements was established, and the ratio of their concentrations was determined.

The ratio of chlorine to bromine in the fragments of the Temple Scroll was then analysed using proton beams of 1.3 MeV, produced by the Tandem particle accelerator at the INFN National Laboratories of the South.

According to this analysis, the ratio of chlorine to bromine in the
scroll is consistent with the ratio in local water sources. In other
words, this finding supports the hypothesis that the scroll was created
in the area in which it was found. The next step in the research will
be to analyse the ink used to write the scrolls.

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024, Maximus wrote:

> D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024, Maximus wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 13/04/2024 2:19 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/04/2024 9:13 am, One God wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:27:33 +1000
>>>>>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/04/2024 7:02 am, One God wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 13:49:20 -0700
>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Did you see this? They are not believers in Christ Jesus.
>>>>>>>>>> I stated another believer for a reason, to be specific as well as
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> according to the Word of God.
>>>>>>>>>> Are you a JW?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you a Jesuit?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If not, why do you promote the solar schlong deity of the Jesuits?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't be a dick, Dick Talker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't worship a dick, dildolator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is your dick deity that has been doing most of the talking. Your
>>>>>>> idol is literally the 'dick talker.'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you, Oh Great Dildo, for your ejaculatory shower of grace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> so amusing to us non-believers watching you idiots argue and squabble
>>>>> among yourselves. if christian beliefs were true you would all be able
>>>>> to agree.
>>>>
>>>> No excuse under the sun is going to excuse you, Maximus.
>>>>
>>>>> all your disagreement signifies it's all just man made nonsense. we
>>>>> atheists have no need to argue, squabble, and bicker. we are free from
>>>>> your god bothering nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> All human beings and monkeys, and indeed families don't agree about
>>>> everything, Goofy. Your argument is redundant, juvenile, naive, and
>>>> stupid, as usual; childish.
>>>>
>>>> You only hear what you say to yourself you want to hear. That is the
>>>> disease you have. It is called "full of yourself" or "wanking in the
>>>> wardrobe."
>>>>
>>>> Now, I am sorry, but I am going to have to report you and your
>>>> appallingly ignorant self-aggrandizing wank-ravings to Ted for a formal
>>>> assessment and an appropriate verbal response.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> it's time to bin you again, methinks. you offer me nothing but stupidity,
>>> insults and abuse, and gobbledygook, as you always have done.
>>
>> I use alt.atheism as a killfile input function. It's great for harvesting
>> people who's opinion I'm in no way interested in. On the other hand,
>> alt.atheism has become quite a quiet place for me. ;)
>
> yes it's much better with all the trolls, whackos, psychos, and nut jobs
> killfilled. you see only ppl who want to discuss matters sensibly.
> unfortunately there's not enough of those. :(

Don't despair! I think that now, when google has stopped sending spam,
there will be a slow growth of high quality posters again.

On Apr 14, 2024, D wrote
(in article<49815f84-832e-794b-e345-5ebb604bd04d@example.net>):

>
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024, Maximus wrote:
>
> > D wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2024, Maximus wrote:
> > >
> > > > Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > On 13/04/2024 2:19 pm, Maximus wrote:
> > > > > > Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > > On 13/04/2024 9:13 am, One God wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:27:33 +1000
> > > > > > > > Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 13/04/2024 7:02 am, One God wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 13:49:20 -0700
> > > > > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Did you see this? They are not believers in Christ Jesus.
> > > > > > > > > > > I stated another believer for a reason, to be specific as well as
> > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > according to the Word of God.
> > > > > > > > > > > Are you a JW?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Are you a Jesuit?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If not, why do you promote the solar schlong deity of the Jesuits?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Don't be a dick, Dick Talker.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Don't worship a dick, dildolator.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is your dick deity that has been doing most of the talking. Your
> > > > > > > > idol is literally the 'dick talker.'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you, Oh Great Dildo, for your ejaculatory shower of grace.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so amusing to us non-believers watching you idiots argue and squabble
> > > > > > among yourselves. if christian beliefs were true you would all be able
> > > > > > to agree.
> > > > >
> > > > > No excuse under the sun is going to excuse you, Maximus.
> > > > >
> > > > > > all your disagreement signifies it's all just man made nonsense. we
> > > > > > atheists have no need to argue, squabble, and bicker. we are free from
> > > > > > your god bothering nonsense.
> > > > >
> > > > > All human beings and monkeys, and indeed families don't agree about
> > > > > everything, Goofy. Your argument is redundant, juvenile, naive, and
> > > > > stupid, as usual; childish.
> > > > >
> > > > > You only hear what you say to yourself you want to hear. That is the
> > > > > disease you have. It is called "full of yourself" or "wanking in the
> > > > > wardrobe."
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I am sorry, but I am going to have to report you and your
> > > > > appallingly ignorant self-aggrandizing wank-ravings to Ted for a formal
> > > > > assessment and an appropriate verbal response.
> > > >
> > > > it's time to bin you again, methinks. you offer me nothing but stupidity,
> > > > insults and abuse, and gobbledygook, as you always have done.
> > >
> > > I use alt.atheism as a killfile input function. It's great for harvesting
> > > people who's opinion I'm in no way interested in. On the other hand,
> > > alt.atheism has become quite a quiet place for me. ;)
> >
> > yes it's much better with all the trolls, whackos, psychos, and nut jobs
> > killfilled. you see only ppl who want to discuss matters sensibly.
> > unfortunately there's not enough of those. :(
>
> Don't despair! I think that now, when google has stopped sending spam,
> there will be a slow growth of high quality posters again.

Nothing will change, it is like any other crime wave, unless the hearts are
changed things will continue to get worse and worse,

On 4/14/2024 12:10 PM, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 12:04:40 -0500
> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/14/2024 12:03 PM, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 12:02:13 -0500
>>> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/13/2024 10:56 PM, Maximus wrote:
>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/12/2024 9:50 AM, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 23:39:50 -0500
>>>>>>> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/11/2024 10:56 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2024 3:27 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>>>>>>>>> (in article <uv84kf$1i09q$2@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2024 3:26 pm, One God wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:50:29 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Bible is a Lucky Charms box; you can make it say whatever
>>>>>>>> you want it to say, otherwise known as the Confirmation Bias.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact the beauty of the Bible is finding conformation from
>>>>>>> different gospels written at different times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And then there is the wealth of material unearthed at Nag
>>>>>>> Hammadi
>>>>>>> - read the gnostic gospels for clues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or just keep being an ostrich if that suits your secular
>>>>>>> stupidity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Different Answer #3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. None of you agree on anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> That alone proves they're wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed. The theologians, unlike all scientists, have no laboratory
>>>> where they can test, let alone falsify, their ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> Never heard of CERN have ya?
>>>
>>> Dizzy twat.
>>>
>>
>> What does CERN have anything to do with any of this?
>>
>> Dawn
>
> I just dismissed your lie:
>
> "The theologians, unlike all scientists, have no laboratory
> where they can test, let alone falsify, their ideas."
>
> https://youtu.be/t3IfGmx58M8
>
> Description
> The Dead Sea Scrolls - An Exclusive Peek Into the Lab - Dr. Joe Uziel
>
> https://phys.org/news/2010-07-protons-dead-sea-scrolls.html
>
> The analyses, which were conducted by INFN physicists in collaboration with researchers from IBAM-CNR, have revealed that one of the Dead Sea Scrolls, in particular, the Temple Scroll (which is not part of the biblical narration and instead describes the construction and life of a temple and dictates how laws are to be communicated to the people), may have been made near the Dead Sea, in the area of Qumran, where the scrolls were found. In other words, the scrolls may have been created locally.
>
> The analyses were conducted on seven small samples of the scrolls (average size of one square centimetre), following a request made by Dr. Ira Rabin of BAM (Bundesanstalt fur Materialforschung) in Berlin. The scrolls belong to the Shrine of the Book of the Israel Museum and the Ronald Reed Collection of the John Rylands University Library.
>
> At the LANDIS laboratory (one of the INFN laboratories in Catania), non-destructive analyses were performed to obtain results on the origin of the scrolls. To produce a scroll, which was the writing material used at the time, a great quantity of water is needed. By analysing water samples taken in the area where the scrolls were found, the presence of certain chemical elements was established, and the ratio of their concentrations was determined.
>
> The ratio of chlorine to bromine in the fragments of the Temple Scroll was then analysed using proton beams of 1.3 MeV, produced by the Tandem particle accelerator at the INFN National Laboratories of the South.
>
> According to this analysis, the ratio of chlorine to bromine in the
> scroll is consistent with the ratio in local water sources. In other
> words, this finding supports the hypothesis that the scroll was created
> in the area in which it was found. The next step in the research will
> be to analyse the ink used to write the scrolls.
>

How is this theology? Seems like archeology or historical analysis to
me. But, once again, what is "theological" in any of the above analysis?

Dawn

Michael Christ wrote:

> Like this: no thing can create itself...
>
-------------------------------------

Then who created god?

Dexter wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>
>
>> Like this: no thing can create itself...
>>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Then who created god?
>
me

On 15/04/2024 3:02 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 4/13/2024 10:56 PM, Maximus wrote:
>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/12/2024 9:50 AM, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 23:39:50 -0500
>>>> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/11/2024 10:56 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/04/2024 3:27 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>>>>>> (in article <uv84kf$1i09q$2@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2024 3:26 pm, One God wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:50:29 -0700
>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Bible is a Lucky Charms box; you can make it say whatever you
>>>>> want it to say, otherwise known as the Confirmation Bias.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> In fact the beauty of the Bible is finding conformation from
>>>> different gospels written at different times.
>>>>
>>>> And then there is the wealth of material unearthed at Nag Hammadi -
>>>> read the gnostic gospels for clues.
>>>>
>>>> Or just keep being an ostrich if that suits your secular stupidity.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Different Answer #3.
>>>
>>> P.S.  None of you agree on anything.
>>
>> That alone proves they're wrong.
>>
>
> Agreed.  The theologians, unlike all scientists, have no laboratory
> where they can test, let alone falsify, their ideas.
>
> Dawn

Gaslighters.

Tiresome children.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

On 15/04/2024 8:00 am, % wrote:
> Dexter wrote:
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Like this: no thing can create itself...
>>>
>> -------------------------------------
>>
>> Then who created god?
>>
> me

So, now you know, DexyDick, kneel!

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

On 15/04/2024 7:53 am, Dexter wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>
>
>> Like this: no thing can create itself...
>>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Then who created god?

How many times does it need to said to these friggin' morons!!!

Same dumb question again, and again, and again.

The answer ain't gonna change!

God is eternal or nothing would be here because nothing can create itself.

No atheist "thing" in the universe, including the universe, can bring
itself into being from before it was.

There is your proof of a Creator/Intelligence; the intelligence in all
life which is intelligence. Science is intelligence, you moron!

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

Andrew wrote:

> "Maximus" wrote in message news:l80sqrFareqU1@mid.individual.net...
> <>
> > there was no virgin birth. that was a mistranslation of the
> > original text
>
> Then who was the father? We know that it wasn't Joseph.

The father of the kid in Isaiah 7 was Isaiah. That's how he knew what
the kid's name would be. Isaiah named all his kids for his prophecies
so that they'd be continual reminders to others of his success.

>
> "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as
> his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came
> together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost."
> ~ Matthew 1:18
>
> "before they came together"...Joseph was not the father of Jesus.
>
> Remember when Jesus was on the Cross, He said.
>
> "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."
> ~ Luke 23:34

LOL. Luke's Jesus was indeed that sort of fellow. He never got ruffled,
unlike Mark's Jesus. (The insertion in Luke 22 about him sweating blood
wasn't written by Luke, but added later as propaganda against the
Docetists.)

> Joseph wasn't on the scene at that time.
>
> Furthermore, Joseph isn't the one who forgives sin.

Robert wrote:

> On Apr 13, 2024, Ted wrote
> (in article <CeESN.862591$p%Mb.337537@fx15.iad>):
>
> > Robert wrote:
> >
> > > On Apr 13, 2024, Ted wrote
> > > (in article <HUCSN.258482$hN14.140706@fx17.iad>):
> > >
> > > > Robert wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Apr 13, 2024, Ted wrote
> > > > > (in article <agBSN.166878$STLe.27471@fx34.iad>):
> > > > >
> > > > > > Robert wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2024, Ted wrote
> > > > > > > (in article <fLASN.555857$vFZa.452389@fx13.iad>):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Robert wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2024, Ted wrote
> > > > > > > > > (in article <h3ASN.120005$IfLe.34575@fx36.iad>):
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Robert wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2024, Ted wrote
> > > > > > > > > > > (in article <zDySN.166877$STLe.45707@fx34.iad>):
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Robert wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 12, 2024, Dawn Flood wrote
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (in article <uvd929$2sda0$1@dont-email.me>):
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/12/2024 12:52 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/04/2024 2:39 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/11/2024 10:56 PM, Michael Christ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/04/2024 3:27 am, Robert wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 11, 2024, Michael Christ
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote (in article
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <uv84kf$1i09q$2@dont-email.me>):
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/04/2024 3:26 pm, One God
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:50:29
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -0700 Robert <robert@no.way>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Bible is a Lucky Charms box; you can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make it say whatever you want it to say,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > otherwise known as the Confirmation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bias.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dawn
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dawn is perfectly right concerning those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who say they are believers but do not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > walk in all that they profess.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And we have already discussed that!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Every sermon in Sinner Christianity is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > false!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because they don't LIVE what they preach!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simple.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They just talk bible; it is not enough!"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Different Answer #1.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything can be treated in the way you spoke
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Bible. Especially books of a religious
> > > > > > > > > > > > > nature; people seeking to gain power over
> > > > > > > > > > > > > others can twist and distort everything. It
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is a fact of life and the nature of this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > world. That is why there is a difference of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Good and Evil, some say Ying and Yang. In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards to books on most any subject, if you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > know the author you can understand far better
> > > > > > > > > > > > > what is meant when they wrote it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You and other christers seem to have zero
> > > > > > > > > > > > respect for the Bible. You very often "twist
> > > > > > > > > > > > and distort" it to make it match your relgion.
> > > > > > > > > > > > And then you claim to believe it's God's Word.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Ted for clearly stating your opinion of
> > > > > > > > > > > me, to my face.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nice of you to say, Robert, thanks. But it's hardly
> > > > > > > > > > an opinion of you, so don't take it like that. You
> > > > > > > > > > just do what almost all christers do, and what I
> > > > > > > > > > did as a christer. We read something in the Bible
> > > > > > > > > > that doesn't agree with what we've been told, and
> > > > > > > > > > so we ask somebody whom we deem an authority, and
> > > > > > > > > > he regurgitates what he's learned.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is however, your opinion, based on your
> > > > > > > > > understandings. That may be your personal experience
> > > > > > > > > that you now project on to others. But is not a fact
> > > > > > > > > which is why believers are called to be wise, and
> > > > > > > > > discerning.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Bottom line, thought, is that we lie and claim the
> > > > > > > > > > Bible means something that it clearly doesn't. If
> > > > > > > > > > it were really God's Word, one might be expected to
> > > > > > > > > > take maximum care not to do that.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Your last sentence is something that I do to the best
> > > > > > > > > of my ability. And is both my intention and goal as a
> > > > > > > > > Believer. Jesus said, my sheep now my voice and
> > > > > > > > > another they will not follow. There are many who know
> > > > > > > > > not the voice of the Lord, yet claim to be Christian.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To say that Isaiah 7:15 and 7:16 aren't referring to the
> > > > > > > > same kid is a lie. Period. To say that Matthew 16:18
> > > > > > > > isn't referring to Peter is a lie. Pure and simple. And
> > > > > > > > there are dozens of other examples. You guys shit on
> > > > > > > > the Bible. Regularly. Is that what Jesus's voice tells
> > > > > > > > you to do?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Isaiah 7:15, 16 speak of the same son.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Matthew 16:18 is speaking of a fragment of a rock, called
> > > > > > > Peter, and speaking of a ROCK, called Jesus the Messiah.
> > > > > > > Petros and Petra. It is too bad that you lack the
> > > > > > > knowledge yet draw conclusions as if you did.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you know what a reprobate is?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, but I guess that's me, huh?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You once claimed that Isaiah 7:15 and 16 refer to different
> > > > > > kids. 15 referred to Immanuel and 16 referred to Isaiah's
> > > > > > son. Don't remember?
> > > >
> > > > > V14 is a different kid, remember?
> > > >
> > > > oic ... well that's just as bad. Verse 15 is clearly referring
> > > > to Immanuel. But you claim that Isaiah just dropped the subject
> > > > with verse 14 and began speaking about his kid. It's obvious to
> > > > anybody that's NOT what happened.
> >
> > > V15 could fit either with 14 or it could fit with v16 but the
> > > reason why it would better fit with 16 is because of the age of
> > > the child of Isaiah, and now the conversation is slowly coming
> > > back to me, and that is because whoever I was discussing it with
> > > at the time was attempting to put the age of the child in another
> > > time period. Which did not fit the scenario. They were quite
> > > adamant about it.

% wrote:

> Dexter wrote:
> > Michael Christ wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Like this: no thing can create itself...
> > >
> > -------------------------------------
> >
> > Then who created god?
> >

> me

I'm surprised he didn't know that.

Michael Christ wrote:

> On 14/04/2024 2:54 am, Maximus wrote:
> > Michael Christ wrote:
> >
> > > On 13/04/2024 7:23 pm, Maximus wrote:
> > > > Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > On 13/04/2024 2:19 pm, Maximus wrote:
> > > > > > Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > > On 13/04/2024 9:13 am, One God wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:27:33 +1000
> >>>>>>>Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 13/04/2024 7:02 am, One God wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 13:49:20 -0700
> >>>>>>>>>Robert <robert@no.way> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Did you see this? They are not believers in Christ
> > > > > > > > > > > Jesus. I stated another believer for a reason,
> > > > > > > > > > > to be specific as well as be according to the
> > > > > > > > > > > Word of God. Are you a JW?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Are you a Jesuit?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If not, why do you promote the solar schlong deity
> > > > > > > > > > of the Jesuits?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Don't be a dick, Dick Talker.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Don't worship a dick, dildolator.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is your dick deity that has been doing most of the
> > > > > > > > talking. Your idol is literally the 'dick talker.'
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you, Oh Great Dildo, for your ejaculatory shower of
> > > > > > > grace.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so amusing to us non-believers watching you idiots argue and
> > > > > > squabble among yourselves. if christian beliefs were true
> > > > > > you would all be able to agree.
> > > > >
> > > > > No excuse under the sun is going to excuse you, Maximus.
> > > > >
> > > > > > all your disagreement signifies it's all just man made
> > > > > > nonsense. we atheists have no need to argue, squabble, and
> > > > > > bicker. we are free from your god bothering nonsense.
> > > > >
> > > > > All human beings and monkeys, and indeed families don't agree
> > > > > about everything, Goofy. Your argument is redundant,
> > > > > juvenile, naive, and stupid, as usual; childish.
> > > > >
> > > > > You only hear what you say to yourself you want to hear. That
> > > > > is the disease you have. It is called "full of yourself" or
> > > > > "wanking in the wardrobe."
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I am sorry, but I am going to have to report you and your
> > > > > appallingly ignorant self-aggrandizing wank-ravings to Ted
> > > > > for a formal assessment and an appropriate verbal response.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > it's time to bin you again, methinks.
> > >
> > > Run along then.
> > >
> > >

> >
> > You don't tell me to run along. I don't take orders from you.

>
> You were told to run along, Hopalong.
>
> Don't make me say that again.

LOL.

>
> You chose to worship yourself, so your end has been settled.
>

What a dumbass.

>
> Michael Christ

On 18/04/2024 6:59 pm, D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:
>
>> On 4/17/2024 6:12 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 18/04/2024 2:02 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> On 4/16/24 6:38 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 17/04/2024 3:27 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/15/24 10:00 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16/04/2024 12:44 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/14/24 9:45 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 15/04/2024 7:53 am, Dexter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like this: no thing can create itself...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then who created god?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How many times does it need to said to these friggin' morons!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Same dumb question again, and again, and again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The answer ain't gonna change!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> God is eternal or nothing would be here because nothing can
>>>>>>>>>> create itself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No atheist "thing" in the universe, including the universe,
>>>>>>>>>> can bring itself into being from before it was.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is your proof of a Creator/Intelligence; the
>>>>>>>>>> intelligence in all life which is intelligence. Science is
>>>>>>>>>> intelligence, you moron!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Define "nothing", especially, in the context of an expanding
>>>>>>>>> Universe?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moron wrote:
>>>>>>>> indeed. foolish to believe the Universe couldn't have come into
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing can bring itself into being, ya moron! No thing can be
>>>>>>> before it is in order to bring itself into being before it was!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheesh, a level 10 moron!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> some manner we don't (yet) know or understand. equally foolish
>>>>>>>> because of that to think it must have been created by some God.
>>>>>>>> MX thinks he is the fount of all knowledge. and good luck with
>>>>>>>> getting an answer that is not gobbledygook, or more of the same,
>>>>>>>> or even just getting an answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dawn asked a dickhead question, "Define nothing."  Derrrrrrrrr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Moronimus just steps over it to bang his stoopid drum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The universe expanding, if it is expanding, is merely a creation
>>>>>>> that the Creator allows to grow.  It didn't, it can't all growed
>>>>>>> itself!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the Universe expanding "into", Michael?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> It is not nothing because nothing is nothing to grow into.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing is nothing, Sweetheart.
>>>>>
>>>>> The universe, if it is growing and it is not a deception that it
>>>>> is, is growing "by design" in the presence of its Creator's
>>>>> omnipotence.
>>>>>
>>>>> By design, like everything!
>>>>>
>>>>> You are lost in a lie, Dawn.
>>>
>>> Dawn the Gaslighter presses on to nowhere:
>>>> Okay, you can't and won't answer my question, will you?
>>>
>>> Bullshit.  Nothing is something you can't grow into because it is
>>> nothing. All you have is questions, and you go around as though they
>>> are the answer! :-).
>>>
>>> Sheesh!
>>>
>>> I answered your question as much as it can be answered—not that I had
>>> to—but the ONLY answer you want is your own.
>>>
>>> You are a lost idiot, Dawn, like that Moronimus Maximus.
>>>
>>> The fact that you only want the answer you want is why you are
>>> nowhere in relation to your Creator and stuffed-stuck-fast in
>>> ultimate meaninglessness and purposelessness.
>>>
>>> Serves you right!
>>>
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> If you accept the expansion of our Universe, one without a physical
>> center to its expansion, what is it expanding "into"?  Why can't you
>> answer this??
>>
>> Dawn
>
> Dawn, as an amateur troll I am always very impressed with your patience
> and civility. How did you manage to reach those heights of human behaviour?

Dawny will suck that in like a vacuum cleaner.

And that is what it is—a vacuum situation—sucking you into a vacuum of
nothing.

That is all atheism is.

If you're a true atheist, human behaviour simply exists without the
concept of heights or lows. I even have to teach you lot what it is to
be a real atheist! :-). But you want it both ways, you see, as you
"geniuses" constantly go about your daily blissfully ignorant lives,
breaking the law of non-contradiction as a norm.

Or, if you want it clearer, in science, morality does not exist—"things"
are not personal; they are impersonal; they are not persons!

And if you still don't believe me go hug a tree or a physics course or
a mathematical equation or a scientific theory; in fact go hug the whole
planet that you look to to explain "personal."

There is no answer in science that can explain your "personal" bent,
Buddy. Therefore, the only logical avenue a "true atheist" has to lean
on is to believe he doesn't exist. :-).

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

You face while slobbering at the feet of your binitarian golden calf.

And you break this commandment with your idol:

"Thou shalt not steal."

You are trying to take what is God's and make it your own.

You call others out as sinner whores while sinning and whoring with your own idol.