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 by: Embrace Woke Go Brok - Wed, 12 Oct 2022 00:44 UTC

In article <KofzK.354922$ssF.220808@fx14.iad>
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Looks like it's time to cancel paypal.
> I just deleted my cards from the paypal account.
>

UPDATE 5:18 p.m.: PayPal says we misunderstood them, and they�re
so sorry we got all riled up for no reason.�An AUP [acceptable
use policy] notice recently went out in error that included
incorrect information. PayPal is not fining people for
misinformation and this language was never intended to be
inserted in our policy,� a PayPal spokesperson told The Epoch
Times in an email. �Our teams are working to correct our policy
pages. We�re sorry for the confusion this has caused,� the
spokesperson added.

This wasn�t a mistake. PayPal issued their revised AUP policy in
September that included the stricture against �sending, posting,
or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in
PayPal�s sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing,
or objectionable, etc.� If nobody had said anything, they would
have gone ahead with it.

Original story:

The financial services company PayPal announced a controversial
policy to deduct up to $2,500 from the accounts of users who
spread �misinformation.�

Beginning November 3, the company will expand its list of
�prohibited activities,� including �the sending, posting, or
publication of any messages, content, or materials� that
�promote misinformation� or �present a risk to user safety or
wellbeing.� Users will also be penalized for �the promotion of
hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is
discriminatory.�

The kicker is, PayPal decides what�s �hate� speech, what�s
�misinformation,� and what is �intolerant,� etc. Somehow, I
don�t think their notion of �misinformation� would match yours
or mine.

It�s apparently very expensive to oppress points of view the
company disagrees with.

Daily Wire:

Deliberations will be made at the �sole discretion� of PayPal
and may subject the user to �damages� � including the removal of
$2,500 �debited directly from your PayPal account.� The
company�s user agreement contains a provision in which account
holders acknowledge that the figure is �presently a reasonable
minimum estimate of PayPal�s actual damages� due to the
administrative cost of tracking violations and damage to the
company�s reputation.

�Administrative costs� of $2,500 being a �reasonable minimum
estimate� of damages? Haven�t these guys ever heard of the
�internet�? Here�s a PayPal joke for you: How many PayPal
employees does it take to do an internet search for violent
language from one user? Answer: Whatever they say it is.

�Under existing law, PayPal has the ability as a private company
to implement this type of viewpoint-discriminatory policy,�
Aaron Terr, a senior program officer at the Foundation for
Individual Rights and Expression, explained to The Daily Wire.
�Whatever motivation PayPal has for establishing these vague new
categories of prohibited expression, they will almost certainly
have a severe chilling effect on users� speech. As is often the
case with ill-defined and viewpoint-discriminatory speech codes,
those with unpopular or minority viewpoints will likely bear the
brunt of these restrictions.�

Platforms such as Amazon, Twitter, and Facebook have formerly
censored conservatives and others who subscribe to heterodox
positions on controversial social issues, including
transgenderism and homosexuality. GoFundMe seized millions in
funds raised for trucker protests in Canada earlier this year,
while Google recently began suppressing search results for
crisis pregnancy centers.

�These kinds of policies are unwise, threaten free speech, and
invite legal risk,� Jeremy Tedesco, vice president of corporate
engagement at Alliance Defending Freedom, told The Daily Wire.
�When companies apply policies to restrict the religious speech
of their customers, they could run afoul of prohibitions on
religious discrimination that exist in many state and federal
laws.�

This is why the left is terrified of someone like Elon Musk
taking over Twitter. Musk is not a right-winger by any means,
but neither is he a radical leftist, as most social media
platforms are run by and answerable to. Musk would actually make
an effort to be fair � an intolerable situation for those
intolerant of other viewpoints.

Make no mistake, conservatives will have their beefs with Musk
for suspending and deleting accounts on the right. He is not a
free-speech absolutist by any means. But the left will not
control him. And that�s what they�re up in arms about.

<https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-
moran/2022/10/08/paypal-policy-will-allow-them-to-deduct-up-to-
2500-from-your-account-for-spreading-misinformation-n1635588>

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The average millenial wokster has over $100,000.00 in credit
card debt.

Woksters are too lazy to work and have no money except for what
they leech from their parents, trust funds, welfare, or do-
gooder handouts.

Many woksters sign their lives away for $600 a month and an EBT
card, claiming they are mentally incompetent and cannot handle
their own personal affairs.

Individuals who voluntarily affirm that they are mentally
incompetent should also forfeit their right to vote.

Woksters have similar numbers to homosexuals and constitute
perhaps 3% of the US population.

What strategic business principle sees profit in this kind of
market prospect?

What reasonable consumer would support a business with woke
philosophies and policies?

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Subject: Re: [UPDATED] Could PayPal Policy Allow Them to Deduct Up to $2,500
From Your Account for Spreading 'Misinformation'?
From: hic...@gmail.com (Raze Congress)
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 by: Raze Congress - Mon, 24 Oct 2022 12:03 UTC

On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 8:45:02 PM UTC-4, Embrace Woke Go Broke! wrote:
> In article <KofzK.354922$ssF.2...@fx14.iad>
> governo...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Looks like it's time to cancel paypal.
> > I just deleted my cards from the paypal account.
> >
>
> UPDATE 5:18 p.m.: PayPal says we misunderstood them, and they’re
> so sorry we got all riled up for no reason.“An AUP [acceptable
> use policy] notice recently went out in error that included
> incorrect information. PayPal is not fining people for
> misinformation and this language was never intended to be
> inserted in our policy,” a PayPal spokesperson told The Epoch
> Times in an email. “Our teams are working to correct our policy
> pages. We’re sorry for the confusion this has caused,” the
> spokesperson added.
>
> This wasn’t a mistake. PayPal issued their revised AUP policy in
> September that included the stricture against “sending, posting,
> or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in
> PayPal’s sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing,
> or objectionable, etc.” If nobody had said anything, they would
> have gone ahead with it.
>
> Original story:
>
> The financial services company PayPal announced a controversial
> policy to deduct up to $2,500 from the accounts of users who
> spread “misinformation.”
>
> Beginning November 3, the company will expand its list of
> “prohibited activities,” including “the sending, posting, or
> publication of any messages, content, or materials” that
> “promote misinformation” or “present a risk to user safety or
> wellbeing.” Users will also be penalized for “the promotion of
> hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is
> discriminatory.”
>
> The kicker is, PayPal decides what’s “hate” speech, what’s
> “misinformation,” and what is “intolerant,” etc. Somehow, I
> don’t think their notion of “misinformation” would match yours
> or mine.
>
> It’s apparently very expensive to oppress points of view the
> company disagrees with.
>
> Daily Wire:
>
> Deliberations will be made at the “sole discretion” of PayPal
> and may subject the user to “damages” — including the removal of
> $2,500 “debited directly from your PayPal account.” The
> company’s user agreement contains a provision in which account
> holders acknowledge that the figure is “presently a reasonable
> minimum estimate of PayPal’s actual damages” due to the
> administrative cost of tracking violations and damage to the
> company’s reputation.
>
> “Administrative costs” of $2,500 being a “reasonable minimum
> estimate” of damages? Haven’t these guys ever heard of the
> “internet”? Here’s a PayPal joke for you: How many PayPal
> employees does it take to do an internet search for violent
> language from one user? Answer: Whatever they say it is.
>
> “Under existing law, PayPal has the ability as a private company
> to implement this type of viewpoint-discriminatory policy,”
> Aaron Terr, a senior program officer at the Foundation for
> Individual Rights and Expression, explained to The Daily Wire.
> “Whatever motivation PayPal has for establishing these vague new
> categories of prohibited expression, they will almost certainly
> have a severe chilling effect on users’ speech. As is often the
> case with ill-defined and viewpoint-discriminatory speech codes,
> those with unpopular or minority viewpoints will likely bear the
> brunt of these restrictions.”
>
> Platforms such as Amazon, Twitter, and Facebook have formerly
> censored conservatives and others who subscribe to heterodox
> positions on controversial social issues, including
> transgenderism and homosexuality. GoFundMe seized millions in
> funds raised for trucker protests in Canada earlier this year,
> while Google recently began suppressing search results for
> crisis pregnancy centers.
>
> “These kinds of policies are unwise, threaten free speech, and
> invite legal risk,” Jeremy Tedesco, vice president of corporate
> engagement at Alliance Defending Freedom, told The Daily Wire.
> “When companies apply policies to restrict the religious speech
> of their customers, they could run afoul of prohibitions on
> religious discrimination that exist in many state and federal
> laws.”
>
> This is why the left is terrified of someone like Elon Musk
> taking over Twitter. Musk is not a right-winger by any means,
> but neither is he a radical leftist, as most social media
> platforms are run by and answerable to. Musk would actually make
> an effort to be fair — an intolerable situation for those
> intolerant of other viewpoints.
>
> Make no mistake, conservatives will have their beefs with Musk
> for suspending and deleting accounts on the right. He is not a
> free-speech absolutist by any means. But the left will not
> control him. And that’s what they’re up in arms about.
>
> <https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-
> moran/2022/10/08/paypal-policy-will-allow-them-to-deduct-up-to-
> 2500-from-your-account-for-spreading-misinformation-n1635588>
>
> --
> The average millenial wokster has over $100,000.00 in credit
> card debt.
>
> Woksters are too lazy to work and have no money except for what
> they leech from their parents, trust funds, welfare, or do-
> gooder handouts.
>
> Many woksters sign their lives away for $600 a month and an EBT
> card, claiming they are mentally incompetent and cannot handle
> their own personal affairs.
>
> Individuals who voluntarily affirm that they are mentally
> incompetent should also forfeit their right to vote.
>
> Woksters have similar numbers to homosexuals and constitute
> perhaps 3% of the US population.
>
> What strategic business principle sees profit in this kind of
> market prospect?
>
> What reasonable consumer would support a business with woke
> philosophies and policies?
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