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* massively OT: Goedel and the afterlifeBurkhard
`* massively OT: Goedel and the afterlifeerik simpson
 +* massively OT: Goedel and the afterlifeBob Casanova
 |`* massively OT: Goedel and the afterlifeKerr-Mudd, John
 | `* massively OT: Goedel and the afterlifeJ. J. Lodder
 |  +- massively OT: Goedel and the afterlifeBob Casanova
 |  `- Re: massively OT: Goedel and the afterlifeBurkhard
 `* massively OT: Goedel and the afterlifeKerr-Mudd, John
  +- massively OT: Goedel and the afterlifeJ. J. Lodder
  `* massively OT: Goedel and the afterlife*Hemidactylus*
   `- massively OT: Goedel and the afterlifeJ. J. Lodder

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 by: Burkhard - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:00 UTC

While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God - s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought....) I thought I share it with you

https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-after-death

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 by: erik simpson - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:24 UTC

On 1/5/24 10:00 AM, Burkhard wrote:
> While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God - s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought...) I thought I share it with you
>
> https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-after-death
>
I have a theorem (unpublished) that shows that is is impossible to
construct an off-topic post on TO.

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 by: Bob Casanova - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:47 UTC

On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 10:24:51 -0800, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:

>On 1/5/24 10:00 AM, Burkhard wrote:
>> While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God - s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought...) I thought I share it with you
>>
>> https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-after-death
>>
>I have a theorem (unpublished) that shows that is is impossible to
>construct an off-topic post on TO.
>
You probably should have noted that in the margin.
>
--

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the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:20 UTC

On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 10:24:51 -0800
erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/5/24 10:00 AM, Burkhard wrote:
> > While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God - s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought...) I thought I share it with you
> >
> > https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-after-death
> >
> I have a theorem (unpublished) that shows that is is impossible to
> construct an off-topic post on TO.
>
I have a theory that anything can be proved; all one needs is a big
enough margin.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:21 UTC

On Fri, 05 Jan 2024 11:47:34 -0700
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 10:24:51 -0800, the following appeared in
> talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
> <eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
>
> >On 1/5/24 10:00 AM, Burkhard wrote:
> >> While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God - s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought...) I thought I share it with you
> >>
> >> https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-after-death
> >>
> >I have a theorem (unpublished) that shows that is is impossible to
> >construct an off-topic post on TO.
> >
> You probably should have noted that in the margin.
> >

Oops, my reply was marginally later.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:52 UTC

Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 10:24:51 -0800
> erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 1/5/24 10:00 AM, Burkhard wrote:
> > > While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy
> > > and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you
> > > wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the
> > > afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and
> > > Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood
> > > interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of
> > > human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God
> > > - s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought...) I thought I
> > > share it with you
> > >
> > > https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-aft
er-death
> > >
> > I have a theorem (unpublished) that shows that is is impossible to
> > construct an off-topic post on TO.
> >
> I have a theory that anything can be proved; all one needs is a big
> enough margin.

Merely an infinitely long tape will do,
(and some patience)

Jan

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:17 UTC

Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 10:24:51 -0800
> erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/5/24 10:00 AM, Burkhard wrote:
>>> While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy
>>> and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you
>>> wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the
>>> afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and
>>> Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood
>>> interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of
>>> human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God -
>>> s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought...) I thought I share it with you
>>>
>>> https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-after-death
>>>
>> I have a theorem (unpublished) that shows that is is impossible to
>> construct an off-topic post on TO.
>>
> I have a theory that anything can be proved; all one needs is a big
> enough margin.
>
Marginalization is power politics of the Oppressor.

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Sat, 6 Jan 2024 09:38 UTC

Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Jan 2024 11:47:34 -0700
> Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 10:24:51 -0800, the following appeared in
> > talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
> > <eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
> >
> > >On 1/5/24 10:00 AM, Burkhard wrote:
> > >> While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy
> > >> and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you
> > >> wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the
> > >> afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and
> > >> Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood
> > >> interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of
> > >> human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God
> > >> - s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought...) I thought I
> > >> share it with you
> > >>
> > >> https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-af
ter-death
> > >>
> > >I have a theorem (unpublished) that shows that is is impossible to
> > >construct an off-topic post on TO.
> > >
> > You probably should have noted that in the margin.
> > >
>
> Oops, my reply was marginally later.

Usenet is an asynchronous medium,

Jan
(Still off-line)

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Sat, 6 Jan 2024 09:38 UTC

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

> Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> > On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 10:24:51 -0800
> > erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/5/24 10:00 AM, Burkhard wrote:
> >>> While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy
> >>> and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you
> >>> wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the
> >>> afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and
> >>> Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood
> >>> interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of
> >>> human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God
> >>> - s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought...) I thought I
> >>> share it with you
> >>>
> >>> https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-aft
er-death
> >>>
> >> I have a theorem (unpublished) that shows that is is impossible to
> >> construct an off-topic post on TO.
> >>
> > I have a theory that anything can be proved; all one needs is a big
> > enough margin.
> >
> Marginalization is power politics of the Oppressor.

The correct name for that one is 'The Supreme Fascist', aka The SF,

Jan

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 by: Bob Casanova - Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:55 UTC

On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:38:10 +0100, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder):

>Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 05 Jan 2024 11:47:34 -0700
>> Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 10:24:51 -0800, the following appeared in
>> > talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
>> > <eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > >On 1/5/24 10:00 AM, Burkhard wrote:
>> > >> While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy
>> > >> and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you
>> > >> wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the
>> > >> afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and
>> > >> Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood
>> > >> interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of
>> > >> human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God
>> > >> - s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought...) I thought I
>> > >> share it with you
>> > >>
>> > >> https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-af
>ter-death
>> > >>
>> > >I have a theorem (unpublished) that shows that is is impossible to
>> > >construct an off-topic post on TO.
>> > >
>> > You probably should have noted that in the margin.
>> > >
>>
>> Oops, my reply was marginally later.
>
>Usenet is an asynchronous medium,
>
....as contrasted with a happy medium, whom one should smack
upside the head as soon as she smiles. IOW, synchronously.
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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 by: Burkhard - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 16:07 UTC

On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 11:42:31 AM UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Kerr-Mudd, John <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 05 Jan 2024 11:47:34 -0700
> > Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 10:24:51 -0800, the following appeared in
> > > talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
> > > <eastsi...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > >On 1/5/24 10:00 AM, Burkhard wrote:
> > > >> While doing research for something else entirely (post-mortem privacy
> > > >> and the importance of letters as historical source, in case you
> > > >> wondered) I came across this article on Goedel's thoughts about the
> > > >> afterlife. As we had recently an entire threat on this topic, and
> > > >> Goedel makes the occasional appearance on TO (mostly misunderstood
> > > >> interpretations of his incompleteness theorem as absolute limit of
> > > >> human knowledge, more rarely his formal proof of the existence of God
> > > >> - s/he/it is an ultrafilter, who would have thought...) I thought I
> > > >> share it with you
> > > >>
> > > >> https://aeon.co/essays/kurt-godel-his-mother-and-the-argument-for-life-af
> ter-death
> > > >>
> > > >I have a theorem (unpublished) that shows that is is impossible to
> > > >construct an off-topic post on TO.
> > > >
> > > You probably should have noted that in the margin.
> > > >
> >
> > Oops, my reply was marginally later.
> Usenet is an asynchronous medium,
>

Yah, sad, sin't it? it used to be an asynchronous large, but kids these days
all use the www only

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