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From: nore...@granlunden.se (mig själv)
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by: mig själv - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 09:58 UTC

Re: Google terminates their usenet support

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by: jillery - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 14:12 UTC

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
<noreply@granlunden.se> wrote:

>On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
>
>It is time for a final troll:
>
>The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
>
>https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
>
>The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
>
>The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
>
>Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.

GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
admission of incompetence. Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
poor excuse.

--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge

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by: WolfFan - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 15:36 UTC

On Jan 28, 2024, mig själv wrote
(in article<9084235b-f177-4722-8b2f-875f59cddf74n@googlegroups.com>):

> On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I
> will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
>
> It is time for a final troll:
>
> The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
>
> https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
>
> The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the
> moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
>
> The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
>
> Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.

get a free account from Eternal September or another free service. Get a free
newsreader, even Thunderbird will do.

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by: WolfFan - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 15:40 UTC

On Jan 28, 2024, jillery wrote
(in article<8qncri1pguj3esutr3ukrgcubv2rvmjk43@4ax.com>):

> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
> <noreply@granlunden.se> wrote:
>
> > On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I
> > will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
> >
> > It is time for a final troll:
> >
> > The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
> >
> > https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
> >
> > The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the
> > moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
> >
> > The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
> >
> > Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
>
> GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
> admission of incompetence.

Usenet support lasted for a very long time for a GoogleToy that cost The Evil
Empire money but generated no revenue. Most GoogleToysget scrapped after a
short time.
> Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
> poor excuse.

I have long said that using a free account and a free newsreader is far
superior to using GG.

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by: broger...@gmail.com - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 20:09 UTC

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:42:53 AM UTC-5, WolfFan wrote:
> On Jan 28, 2024, jillery wrote
> (in article<8qncri1pguj3esutr...@4ax.com>):
> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
> > <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
> >
> > > On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I
> > > will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
> > >
> > > It is time for a final troll:
> > >
> > > The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
> > >
> > > https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
> > >
> > > The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the
> > > moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
> > >
> > > The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
> > >
> > > Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
> >
> > GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
> > admission of incompetence.
> Usenet support lasted for a very long time for a GoogleToy that cost The Evil
> Empire money but generated no revenue. Most GoogleToysget scrapped after a
> short time.
> > Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
> > poor excuse.
......
> I have long said that using a free account and a free newsreader is far
> superior to using GG.
You may be right. I have no comparison. I used GG for 25+ years and never had a problem. I'll fade out when it does.

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by: jillery - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 20:19 UTC

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 10:40:14 -0500, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
wrote:

>On Jan 28, 2024, jillery wrote
>(in article<8qncri1pguj3esutr3ukrgcubv2rvmjk43@4ax.com>):
>
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
>> <noreply@granlunden.se> wrote:
>>
>> > On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I
>> > will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
>> >
>> > It is time for a final troll:
>> >
>> > The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
>> >
>> > https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
>> >
>> > The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the
>> > moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
>> >
>> > The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
>> >
>> > Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
>>
>> GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
>> admission of incompetence.
>
>Usenet support lasted for a very long time for a GoogleToy that cost The Evil
>Empire money but generated no revenue. Most GoogleToysget scrapped after a
>short time.

Not sure why GG couldn't have generated revenue. ISTM incremental
costs were minimal and advertising could have provided revenue similar
to their web-based email service. My impression is what killed GG is
its repeated self-inflicted breakdowns.

>> Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
>> poor excuse.
>
>I have long said that using a free account and a free newsreader is far
>superior to using GG.

Yeppers, especially for text-only froups.

--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge

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by: Bob Casanova - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 20:32 UTC

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:09:30 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by "broger...@gmail.com"
<brogers31751@gmail.com>:

>On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:42:53?AM UTC-5, WolfFan wrote:
>> On Jan 28, 2024, jillery wrote
>> (in article<8qncri1pguj3esutr...@4ax.com>):
>> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
>> > <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I
>> > > will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
>> > >
>> > > It is time for a final troll:
>> > >
>> > > The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
>> > >
>> > > https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
>> > >
>> > > The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the
>> > > moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
>> > >
>> > > The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
>> > >
>> > > Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
>> >
>> > GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
>> > admission of incompetence.
>> Usenet support lasted for a very long time for a GoogleToy that cost The Evil
>> Empire money but generated no revenue. Most GoogleToysget scrapped after a
>> short time.
>> > Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
>> > poor excuse.
>.....
>> I have long said that using a free account and a free newsreader is far
>> superior to using GG.
>You may be right. I have no comparison. I used GG for 25+ years and never had a problem. I'll fade out when it does.
>
Just curious... Why are you opposed to using a news service
and a newsreader, both of which are available free?
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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by: broger...@gmail.com - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 20:41 UTC

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 3:37:53 PM UTC-5, Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:09:30 -0800 (PST), the following
> appeared in talk.origins, posted by "broger...@gmail.com"
> <broger...@gmail.com>:
> >On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:42:53?AM UTC-5, WolfFan wrote:
> >> On Jan 28, 2024, jillery wrote
> >> (in article<8qncri1pguj3esutr...@4ax.com>):
> >> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
> >> > <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I
> >> > > will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
> >> > >
> >> > > It is time for a final troll:
> >> > >
> >> > > The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
> >> > >
> >> > > https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
> >> > >
> >> > > The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the
> >> > > moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
> >> > >
> >> > > The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
> >> > >
> >> > > Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
> >> >
> >> > GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
> >> > admission of incompetence.
> >> Usenet support lasted for a very long time for a GoogleToy that cost The Evil
> >> Empire money but generated no revenue. Most GoogleToysget scrapped after a
> >> short time.
> >> > Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
> >> > poor excuse.
> >.....
> >> I have long said that using a free account and a free newsreader is far
> >> superior to using GG.
> >You may be right. I have no comparison. I used GG for 25+ years and never had a problem. I'll fade out when it does.
> >
> Just curious... Why are you opposed to using a news service
> and a newsreader, both of which are available free?
> >
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
> the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
> 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
>
> - Isaac Asimov
Not opposed. Just looking for an excuse to break the TO habit. The death of GG is as good as any. The (admittedly small) activation energy barrier of installing and learning about a real news server will keep me from going back.

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by: Burkhard - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 21:49 UTC

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:12:53 PM UTC, jillery wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
> <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
>
> >On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
> >
> >It is time for a final troll:
> >
> >The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
> >
> >https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
> >
> >The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
> >
> >The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
> >
> >Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
> GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
> admission of incompetence. Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
> poor excuse.
>

The problem I see is that the chances to attract anyone new to a Usenet group,
after GG stops supporting them, are minimal. We've already seen most of the
discussions moving elsewhere, to blogs, Facebook etc And as a result discussions
here now often feel stale, saying the same things to the same people over and over
again. So even if most of the remaining regulars moved (back to) newsreaders, that
would just postpone the inevitable

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by: erik simpson - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 22:23 UTC

On 1/28/24 1:49 PM, Burkhard wrote:
> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:12:53 PM UTC, jillery wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
>> <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
>>>
>>> It is time for a final troll:
>>>
>>> The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
>>>
>>> https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
>>>
>>> The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
>>>
>>> The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
>>>
>>> Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
>> GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
>> admission of incompetence. Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
>> poor excuse.
>>
>
> The problem I see is that the chances to attract anyone new to a Usenet group,
> after GG stops supporting them, are minimal. We've already seen most of the
> discussions moving elsewhere, to blogs, Facebook etc And as a result discussions
> here now often feel stale, saying the same things to the same people over and over
> again. So even if most of the remaining regulars moved (back to) newsreaders, that
> would just postpone the inevitable
>
I suspect you're right. Interest seems to be dying out.

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by: Bob Casanova - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 22:48 UTC

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:41:09 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by "broger...@gmail.com"
<brogers31751@gmail.com>:

>On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 3:37:53?PM UTC-5, Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:09:30 -0800 (PST), the following
>> appeared in talk.origins, posted by "broger...@gmail.com"
>> <broger...@gmail.com>:
>> >On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:42:53?AM UTC-5, WolfFan wrote:
>> >> On Jan 28, 2024, jillery wrote
>> >> (in article<8qncri1pguj3esutr...@4ax.com>):
>> >> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
>> >> > <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I
>> >> > > will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > It is time for a final troll:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the
>> >> > > moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
>> >> >
>> >> > GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
>> >> > admission of incompetence.
>> >> Usenet support lasted for a very long time for a GoogleToy that cost The Evil
>> >> Empire money but generated no revenue. Most GoogleToysget scrapped after a
>> >> short time.
>> >> > Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
>> >> > poor excuse.
>> >.....
>> >> I have long said that using a free account and a free newsreader is far
>> >> superior to using GG.
>> >You may be right. I have no comparison. I used GG for 25+ years and never had a problem. I'll fade out when it does.
>> >
>> Just curious... Why are you opposed to using a news service
>> and a newsreader, both of which are available free?
>> >
>Not opposed. Just looking for an excuse to break the TO habit. The death of GG is as good as any. The (admittedly small) activation energy barrier of installing and learning about a real news server will keep me from going back.
>
Fair enough. You've been a valuable participant here; enjoy
the relief from the loons. :-)
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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by: Bob Casanova - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 22:52 UTC

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 14:23:28 -0800, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:

>On 1/28/24 1:49 PM, Burkhard wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:12:53?PM UTC, jillery wrote:
>>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
>>> <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
>>>>
>>>> It is time for a final troll:
>>>>
>>>> The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
>>>>
>>>> https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
>>>>
>>>> The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
>>>>
>>>> The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
>>>>
>>>> Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
>>> GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
>>> admission of incompetence. Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
>>> poor excuse.
>>>
>>
>> The problem I see is that the chances to attract anyone new to a Usenet group,
>> after GG stops supporting them, are minimal. We've already seen most of the
>> discussions moving elsewhere, to blogs, Facebook etc And as a result discussions
>> here now often feel stale, saying the same things to the same people over and over
>> again. So even if most of the remaining regulars moved (back to) newsreaders, that
>> would just postpone the inevitable
>>
>I suspect you're right. Interest seems to be dying out.
>
Yep. The 100-200 post days, with many of the posts being
other than snark and/or lunacy, are apparently gone. Well,
it's been a good 30 years or so, all told; all good things
end eventually.
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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by: John Harshman - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 00:14 UTC

On 1/28/24 1:49 PM, Burkhard wrote:
> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:12:53 PM UTC, jillery wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
>> <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
>>>
>>> It is time for a final troll:
>>>
>>> The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
>>>
>>> https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
>>>
>>> The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
>>>
>>> The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
>>>
>>> Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
>> GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
>> admission of incompetence. Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
>> poor excuse.
>>
>
> The problem I see is that the chances to attract anyone new to a Usenet group,
> after GG stops supporting them, are minimal. We've already seen most of the
> discussions moving elsewhere, to blogs, Facebook etc And as a result discussions
> here now often feel stale, saying the same things to the same people over and over
> again. So even if most of the remaining regulars moved (back to) newsreaders, that
> would just postpone the inevitable
>
Postponing the inevitable is what medical care is all about, but that's
not a reason to reject it.

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by: broger...@gmail.com - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 00:23 UTC

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 7:17:54 PM UTC-5, John Harshman wrote:
> On 1/28/24 1:49 PM, Burkhard wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:12:53 PM UTC, jillery wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
> >> <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
> >>>
> >>> It is time for a final troll:
> >>>
> >>> The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
> >>>
> >>> https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
> >>>
> >>> The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
> >>>
> >>> The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
> >>>
> >>> Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
> >> GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
> >> admission of incompetence. Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
> >> poor excuse.
> >>
> >
> > The problem I see is that the chances to attract anyone new to a Usenet group,
> > after GG stops supporting them, are minimal. We've already seen most of the
> > discussions moving elsewhere, to blogs, Facebook etc And as a result discussions
> > here now often feel stale, saying the same things to the same people over and over
> > again. So even if most of the remaining regulars moved (back to) newsreaders, that
> > would just postpone the inevitable
> >
> Postponing the inevitable is what medical care is all about, but that's
> not a reason to reject it.
Well, in the case of medical care, the alternative to postponing the inevitable is death. In the case of TO, the alternative to postponing the inevitable is doing something else with your time.

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by: Dexter - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 03:35 UTC

WolfFan wrote:

> On Jan 28, 2024, mig själv wrote
> (in article<9084235b-f177-4722-8b2f-875f59cddf74n@googlegroups.com>):
>
> > On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I
> > will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
> >
> > It is time for a final troll:
> >
> > The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
> >
> > https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
> >
> > The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the
> > moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
> >
> > The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
> >
> > Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
>
> get a free account from Eternal September or another free service. Get a free
> newsreader, even Thunderbird will do.
-------------------------------------

I found Thunderbird to be a hot mess for me. I'm sticking with
XanazNews 1.20-Ocfde51 (while it still functions) and Eternal September.

I've found Talk.Origins to be have been enonormously informative over the
years. It has added a huge fund of knowledge to my education that I missed
in my first go round at UGA. I blame it on the lure of sex, drugs and disco.
About that I will say no more except that it was a lot of fun.

Youth is truly wasted on the young.

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by: Mark Isaak - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 04:57 UTC

Are there any alternatives? Blogs or somesuch that are open for comment
without content restriction?

--
Mark Isaak
"Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That
doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell

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by: Burkhard - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 09:42 UTC

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 12:17:54 AM UTC, John Harshman wrote:
> On 1/28/24 1:49 PM, Burkhard wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:12:53 PM UTC, jillery wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
> >> <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents and I will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins.
> >>>
> >>> It is time for a final troll:
> >>>
> >>> The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar eclipse.
> >>>
> >>> https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png
> >>>
> >>> The moon hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the moon creating pearls of light around the moon.
> >>>
> >>> The role of saint Pete is played by the-man-in-the-moon.
> >>>
> >>> Bye bye all of you, created or evolved.
> >> GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a tacit
> >> admission of incompetence. Leaving T.O. because of that is an equally
> >> poor excuse.
> >>
> >
> > The problem I see is that the chances to attract anyone new to a Usenet group,
> > after GG stops supporting them, are minimal. We've already seen most of the
> > discussions moving elsewhere, to blogs, Facebook etc And as a result discussions
> > here now often feel stale, saying the same things to the same people over and over
> > again. So even if most of the remaining regulars moved (back to) newsreaders, that
> > would just postpone the inevitable
> >
> Postponing the inevitable is what medical care is all about, but that's
> not a reason to reject it.

For a certain value of "all", I'd say - we have just right now (another)
debate about the contours of assisted dying in Scotland and
the role of the medical profession in it. At some point
pulling the plug is the right decision.

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by: J. J. Lodder - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 20:15 UTC

erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/28/24 1:49 PM, Burkhard wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:12:53?PM UTC, jillery wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
> >> <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents
> >>and I will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins. > > It is time for
> >>a final troll: > > The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar
> >>eclipse. > > https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png > > The moon
> >>hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the moon
> >>creating pearls of light around the moon. > > The role of saint Pete is
> >>played by the-man-in-the-moon. > > Bye bye all of you, created or
> >>evolved. GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a
> >>tacit admission of incompetence. Leaving T.O. because of that is an
> >>equally poor excuse.
> >>
> >
> > The problem I see is that the chances to attract anyone new to a Usenet
> > group, after GG stops supporting them, are minimal. We've already seen
> > most of the discussions moving elsewhere, to blogs, Facebook etc And as
> > a result discussions here now often feel stale, saying the same things
> > to the same people over and over again. So even if most of the remaining
> > regulars moved (back to) newsreaders, that would just postpone the
> > inevitable
> >
> I suspect you're right. Interest seems to be dying out.

That's a self-fulfilling prophecy,

Jan

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by: erik simpson - Mon, 29 Jan 2024 21:49 UTC

On 1/29/24 12:15 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/28/24 1:49 PM, Burkhard wrote:
>>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:12:53?PM UTC, jillery wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:58:02 -0800 (PST), mig själv
>>>> <nor...@granlunden.se> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22nd februari Google groups stops supporting new usenet contents
>>>> and I will no longer be able to lurk in talk.origins. > > It is time for
>>>> a final troll: > > The story on the pearly gate is based on a solar
>>>> eclipse. > > https://privat.bahnhof.se/wb583958/pp.png > > The moon
>>>> hides the sun but the sun can be seen through the valleys of the moon
>>>> creating pearls of light around the moon. > > The role of saint Pete is
>>>> played by the-man-in-the-moon. > > Bye bye all of you, created or
>>>> evolved. GG supported Usenet poorly at best. Their pulling the plug is a
>>>> tacit admission of incompetence. Leaving T.O. because of that is an
>>>> equally poor excuse.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The problem I see is that the chances to attract anyone new to a Usenet
>>> group, after GG stops supporting them, are minimal. We've already seen
>>> most of the discussions moving elsewhere, to blogs, Facebook etc And as
>>> a result discussions here now often feel stale, saying the same things
>>> to the same people over and over again. So even if most of the remaining
>>> regulars moved (back to) newsreaders, that would just postpone the
>>> inevitable
>>>
>> I suspect you're right. Interest seems to be dying out.
>
> That's a self-fulfilling prophecy,
>
> Jan
>
I wish it weren't so. There used to be more interesting subjects and
exchanges, but over the last few months the only subject drawing much
attention were Ron Dean and the meaning of creationism. Not much to
work with there.

Take what you can use and let the rest go by. -- Ken Kesey

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Subject	Author
Google terminates their usenet support	mig själv
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	jillery
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	WolfFan
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	broger...@gmail.com
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	Bob Casanova
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	broger...@gmail.com
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	Bob Casanova
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	André G. Isaak
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	broger...@gmail.com
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	jillery
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	Burkhard
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	erik simpson
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	Bob Casanova
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	J. J. Lodder
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	erik simpson
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	John Harshman
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	broger...@gmail.com
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	Burkhard
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	Mark Isaak
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	WolfFan
Re: Google terminates their usenet support	Dexter