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by: erik simpson - Mon, 19 Feb 2024 17:46 UTC

On 2/19/24 9:26 AM, DB Cates wrote:
> On 2024-02-19 10:22 AM, erik simpson wrote:
>> The paper
>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2023.1339390/full
>>
>> attracted quite a bit of attention. The retraction
>>
>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2024.1386861/full
>>
>> is also pretty funny. It seems to me the journal itself has a little
>> explaining to do about how such a thing floated by also sorts of review.
>>
> All gone now.
> Just do a search on 'schlong rat' and read the ARS Technica article.
> Also some of the comments, if you get to the one about the rat's upward
> gaze; sweet dreams.

Dreams? Ugh. There's probably going to be more rather than less junk
like this, and some of it won't be nearly as obvious.

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by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Mon, 19 Feb 2024 17:55 UTC

On 2024-02-19 16:22:50 +0000, erik simpson said:

> The paper https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2023.1339390/full
>
> attracted quite a bit of attention. The retraction
>
> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2024.1386861/full
>
> is also pretty funny. It seems to me the journal itself has a little
> explaining to do about how such a thing floated by also sorts of review.

If you go to https://forbetterscience.com/ you'll find lots of similar cases.

Very few current journals are immune to abuse, even ones that were once
at the pinnacle of respectability, like the Journal of Biological
Chemistry, have problems now that they've teamed up with Elsevier.

--
athel cb : Biochemical Evolution, Garland Science, 2016

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by: Bob Casanova - Mon, 19 Feb 2024 19:11 UTC

On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 11:26:01 -0600, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by DB Cates <cates_db@hotmail.com>:

>On 2024-02-19 10:22 AM, erik simpson wrote:
>> The paper
>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2023.1339390/full
>>
>> attracted quite a bit of attention. The retraction
>>
>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2024.1386861/full
>>
>> is also pretty funny. It seems to me the journal itself has a little
>> explaining to do about how such a thing floated by also sorts of review.
>>
>All gone now.
>Just do a search on 'schlong rat' and read the ARS Technica article.
>Also some of the comments, if you get to the one about the rat's upward
>gaze; sweet dreams.
>
Since the original leads only to a contentless retraction
statement, I went to the ARS Technica article you noted to
see what the hoopla was about. Thanks *ever* so much for the
reference <gag>. Just curious...who did the original peer
"review", Larry Flynt? Oh, wait, he's dead. Maybe one of his
proteges?

Ain't AI just *wunnerful*? No possibility of abuse at all...
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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by: *Hemidactylus* - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 00:52 UTC

erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/19/24 9:26 AM, DB Cates wrote:
>> On 2024-02-19 10:22 AM, erik simpson wrote:
>>> The paper
>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2023.1339390/full
>>>
>>> attracted quite a bit of attention. The retraction
>>>
>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2024.1386861/full
>>>
>>> is also pretty funny. It seems to me the journal itself has a little
>>> explaining to do about how such a thing floated by also sorts of review.
>>>
>> All gone now.
>> Just do a search on 'schlong rat' and read the ARS Technica article.
>> Also some of the comments, if you get to the one about the rat's upward
>> gaze; sweet dreams.
>
> Dreams? Ugh. There's probably going to be more rather than less junk
> like this, and some of it won't be nearly as obvious.
>
Junk is the operative word with that one disturbing image!

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by: erik simpson - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:45 UTC

On 2/19/24 4:52 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
> erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2/19/24 9:26 AM, DB Cates wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-19 10:22 AM, erik simpson wrote:
>>>> The paper
>>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2023.1339390/full
>>>>
>>>> attracted quite a bit of attention. The retraction
>>>>
>>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2024.1386861/full
>>>>
>>>> is also pretty funny. It seems to me the journal itself has a little
>>>> explaining to do about how such a thing floated by also sorts of review.
>>>>
>>> All gone now.
>>> Just do a search on 'schlong rat' and read the ARS Technica article.
>>> Also some of the comments, if you get to the one about the rat's upward
>>> gaze; sweet dreams.
>>
>> Dreams? Ugh. There's probably going to be more rather than less junk
>> like this, and some of it won't be nearly as obvious.
>>
> Junk is the operative word with that one disturbing image!
>
The offending journal has issued an apology:

https://www.frontiersin.org/news/2024/02/16/frontiers-statement-concerning-the-article-cellular-functions-of-spermatogonial-stem-cells

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by: John Harshman - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 23:04 UTC

On 2/20/24 9:45 AM, erik simpson wrote:
> On 2/19/24 4:52 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>> erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2/19/24 9:26 AM, DB Cates wrote:
>>>> On 2024-02-19 10:22 AM, erik simpson wrote:
>>>>> The paper
>>>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2023.1339390/full
>>>>>
>>>>> attracted quite a bit of attention. The retraction
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2024.1386861/full
>>>>>
>>>>> is also pretty funny. It seems to me the journal itself has a little
>>>>> explaining to do about how such a thing floated by also sorts of
>>>>> review.
>>>>>
>>>> All gone now.
>>>> Just do a search on 'schlong rat' and read the ARS Technica article.
>>>> Also some of the comments, if you get to the one about the rat's upward
>>>> gaze; sweet dreams.
>>>
>>> Dreams? Ugh. There's probably going to be more rather than less junk
>>> like this, and some of it won't be nearly as obvious.
>>>
>> Junk is the operative word with that one disturbing image!
>>
> The offending journal has issued an apology:
>
> https://www.frontiersin.org/news/2024/02/16/frontiers-statement-concerning-the-article-cellular-functions-of-spermatogonial-stem-cells
>
More of a not-pology. I don't see anyone taking responsibility.

To err is human, to forgive is against company policy.

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Subject	Author
off-topic? but hilarious	erik simpson
Re: off-topic? but hilarious	DB Cates
Re: off-topic? but hilarious	erik simpson
Re: off-topic? but hilarious	Hemidactylus
Re: off-topic? but hilarious	erik simpson
Re: off-topic? but hilarious	John Harshman
Re: off-topic? but hilarious	Bob Casanova
Re: off-topic? but hilarious	Hemidactylus
Re: off-topic? but hilarious	Athel Cornish-Bowden
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