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 by: Burkhard - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:24 UTC

I just saw this:
https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos

assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.

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 by: Martin Harran - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:49 UTC

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:24:20 -0800 (PST), Burkhard
<b.schafer@ed.ac.uk> wrote:

>I just saw this:
>https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>
>assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.

I thought it might not be him as it seems strange that he would still
be employed as a lecturer at 80 years of age. Looking at his CV,
however, he first graduated in 1967 so 1946 as year of birth sounds
about right.

Whilst he and I were often at each other's throats, I always thought
he genuinely believed the things he posted. The place will certainly
be a lot quieter - possibly too quiet - without him and GG.

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam

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 by: Martin Harran - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:05 UTC

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:49:20 +0000, Martin Harran
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>.... I thought it might not be him as it seems strange that he would still
>be employed as a lecturer at 80 years of age.

Brain fart - 78 years of age.

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 by: Ernest Major - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:13 UTC

On 20/02/2024 17:05, Martin Harran wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:49:20 +0000, Martin Harran
> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> .... I thought it might not be him as it seems strange that he would still
>> be employed as a lecturer at 80 years of age.
>
> Brain fart - 78 years of age.
>

77; he would have been 78 next month.

--
alias Ernest Major

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:21 UTC

Burkhard <b.schafer@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> I just saw this:
> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>
> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details
> fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain
> in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he
> always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version
> of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived
> forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
>
The birthdate in the death notice matches his CV:
https://sc.edu/study/colleges_schools/artsandsciences/mathematics/our_people/profile_cv/nyikos_peter_cv.pdf

Ughh! Sad to see him gone. I imagine since his death date was the 18th that
his absence was due to health issues that had arisen. I can’t recall his
last posting. Maybe Jan 29th?

That is going to take some time to process. RIP Peter.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:33 UTC

Ernest Major <{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 20/02/2024 17:05, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:49:20 +0000, Martin Harran
>> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> .... I thought it might not be him as it seems strange that he would still
>>> be employed as a lecturer at 80 years of age.
>>
>> Brain fart - 78 years of age.
>>
>
> 77; he would have been 78 next month.
>
He was scrappy and argumentative up til the end. On Jan 25th he said in one
his preambles: “The preceding three day stretch was the most hectic in the
last two years, but things have finally calmed down, and tomorrow I will
probably have time to do several posts on t.o. It is only the lateness of
time that confines me to one today.” from thread *Hard Atheism of John
Harshman Contrasted with Agnosticism of Peter Nyikos*

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 by: erik simpson - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:38 UTC

On 2/20/24 8:24 AM, Burkhard wrote:
> I just saw this:
> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>
> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
>
I am genuinely unhappy to hear this. Peter and I have had many
rancorous exchanges over the years, but I have over the last year come
to the realization that mutual miscommunication was the cause of most of
them. I never found it easy to understand what Peter was "getting at"
in his unique style of writing, but we had many common interests and he
had strong if sometimes eccentric opinions of all of them. i believe he
was committed to the truth as he understood it, and I too hope the God
he wanted to believe in accepts him as he is. I'll miss him.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:58 UTC

erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/20/24 8:24 AM, Burkhard wrote:
>> I just saw this:
>> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>>
>> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details
>> fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain
>> in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he
>> always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version
>> of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived
>> forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
>>
> I am genuinely unhappy to hear this. Peter and I have had many
> rancorous exchanges over the years, but I have over the last year come
> to the realization that mutual miscommunication was the cause of most of
> them. I never found it easy to understand what Peter was "getting at"
> in his unique style of writing, but we had many common interests and he
> had strong if sometimes eccentric opinions of all of them. i believe he
> was committed to the truth as he understood it, and I too hope the God
> he wanted to believe in accepts him as he is. I'll miss him.
>
You or somebody might want to notify regulars on the paleontology
newsgroup.

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 by: Öö Tiib - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:59 UTC

On Tuesday 20 February 2024 at 18:28:16 UTC+2, Burkhard wrote:
> I just saw this:
> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>
> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
>
Sad. He was certainly best ID proponent that we had. Unlike others
he did not run away from opportunity to reason. Hopefully he found
his bright afterlife.

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 by: Lawyer Daggett - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:59 UTC

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 11:28:16 AM UTC-5, Burkhard wrote:
> I just saw this:
> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>
> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.

Thanks for the heads up. Nobody could get under my skin like Peter and
as such he offered me many lessons in checking myself and my immediate
impulses, even if I may have been left with more to learn.

Condolences to his family to whom he was no doubt a strong and dedicated influence.

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 by: MarkE - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 21:50 UTC

On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 10:03:17 PM UTC+11, Lawyer Daggett wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 11:28:16 AM UTC-5, Burkhard wrote:
> > I just saw this:
> > https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
> >
> > assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
> Thanks for the heads up. Nobody could get under my skin like Peter and
> as such he offered me many lessons in checking myself and my immediate
> impulses, even if I may have been left with more to learn.
>
> Condolences to his family to whom he was no doubt a strong and dedicated influence.

Gracious words. Peter sometimes got under my skin even in agreement. But he relentlessly added colour and substance here. You will be missed, Peter.

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 by: jillery - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 12:29 UTC

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:24:20 -0800 (PST), Burkhard
<b.schafer@ed.ac.uk> wrote:

>I just saw this:
>https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>
>assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.

For anybody who might care about such things, the above post is one of
a dozen which Eternal September failed to capture.

--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge

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 by: Ernest Major - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:06 UTC

On 27/02/2024 12:29, jillery wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:24:20 -0800 (PST), Burkhard
> <b.schafer@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> I just saw this:
>> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>>
>> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
>
>
> For anybody who might care about such things, the above post is one of
> a dozen which Eternal September failed to capture.

It did have it originally, but has since disappeared ("expired"). The
same happened to a couple of posts from MarkE.

>
> --
> To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
>

--
alias Ernest Major

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 by: John Harshman - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:54 UTC

On 2/27/24 5:06 AM, Ernest Major wrote:
> On 27/02/2024 12:29, jillery wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:24:20 -0800 (PST), Burkhard
>> <b.schafer@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I just saw this:
>>> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>>>
>>> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the
>>> details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a
>>> royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type
>>> of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course>
>>> That  the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week,  before
>>> getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
>>
>>
>> For anybody who might care about such things, the above post is one of
>> a dozen which Eternal September failed to capture.
>
> It did have it originally, but has since disappeared ("expired"). The
> same happened to a couple of posts from MarkE.

Well, you have to admit that "expired" is appropriate in this case.

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 by: erik simpson - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 16:33 UTC

On 2/27/24 6:54 AM, John Harshman wrote:
> On 2/27/24 5:06 AM, Ernest Major wrote:
>> On 27/02/2024 12:29, jillery wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:24:20 -0800 (PST), Burkhard
>>> <b.schafer@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just saw this:
>>>> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>>>>
>>>> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the
>>>> details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be
>>>> a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the
>>>> type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of
>>>> course> That  the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a
>>>> week,  before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting
>>>> memorial imaginable.
>>>
>>>
>>> For anybody who might care about such things, the above post is one of
>>> a dozen which Eternal September failed to capture.
>>
>> It did have it originally, but has since disappeared ("expired"). The
>> same happened to a couple of posts from MarkE.
>
> Well, you have to admit that "expired" is appropriate in this case.
>
I still see Burkhard's post, as well as MarkE's, but I'm paying for it.

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 by: RonO - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 00:04 UTC

On 2/20/2024 11:13 AM, Ernest Major wrote:
> On 20/02/2024 17:05, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:49:20 +0000, Martin Harran
>> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> .... I thought it might not be him as it seems strange that he would
>>> still
>>> be employed as a lecturer at 80 years of age.
>>
>> Brain fart - 78 years of age.
>>
>
> 77; he would have been 78 next month.
>

For some reason my posts are not showing up. I've had trouble just
getting eternal september to open posts. I was updated, and had to
reload TO, but nothing has been working. I posted to the Dirt DNA
thread, but it didn't show up. For the last couple of weeks when I
click on a post it either opens to a blank page or it goes to a bar at
the top of the window and ony a partial post is displayed below. It is
a worthless feature that should have never been implemented. Why would
anyone want to accumulate partial posts in a bar across the top of the
window? Once in a while I can open a post and even respond to it like I
did with the Dirt DNA thread, but it doesn't seem to work.

So this is sort of a test post.

Nyikos had to prevaricate and lie about the Phillip Johnson quote where
Johnson admitted that the ID science didn't exist and that he had given
up on teaching ID in the public schools after the Dover decision.
Nyikos would usually just snip and run from the quote, but once he put
up the lame argument that Johnson could be disregarded because he was
old. Nyikos, at that time, was older than Phillip Johnson when Johnson
had made the quote (Johnson had been 65 years old). So Nyikos claimed
that he was old enough so that his opinions could be disregarded. A
true TO tale.

Ron Okimoto

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 by: erik simpson - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 00:17 UTC

On 2/27/24 4:04 PM, RonO wrote:
> On 2/20/2024 11:13 AM, Ernest Major wrote:
>> On 20/02/2024 17:05, Martin Harran wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:49:20 +0000, Martin Harran
>>> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> .... I thought it might not be him as it seems strange that he would
>>>> still
>>>> be employed as a lecturer at 80 years of age.
>>>
>>> Brain fart - 78 years of age.
>>>
>>
>> 77; he would have been 78 next month.
>>
>
> For some reason my posts are not showing up. I've had trouble just
> getting eternal september to open posts.  I was updated, and had to
> reload TO, but nothing has been working.  I posted to the Dirt DNA
> thread, but it didn't show up.  For the last couple of weeks when I
> click on a post it either opens to a blank page or it goes to a bar at
> the top of the window and ony a partial post is displayed below.  It is
> a worthless feature that should have never been implemented.  Why would
> anyone want to accumulate partial posts in a bar across the top of the
> window?  Once in a while I can open a post and even respond to it like I
> did with the Dirt DNA thread, but it doesn't seem to work.
>
> So this is sort of a test post.
>
> Nyikos had to prevaricate and lie about the Phillip Johnson quote where
> Johnson admitted that the ID science didn't exist and that he had given
> up on teaching ID in the public schools after the Dover decision. Nyikos
> would usually just snip and run from the quote, but once he put up the
> lame argument that Johnson could be disregarded because he was old.
> Nyikos, at that time, was older than Phillip Johnson when Johnson had
> made the quote (Johnson had been 65 years old).  So Nyikos claimed that
> he was old enough so that his opinions could be disregarded.  A true TO
> tale.
>
> Ron Okimoto
>
Several people have recently had problems with ES. The paid-for
newsreaders are probably more reliable.

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 by: RonO - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 00:34 UTC

On 2/27/2024 6:17 PM, erik simpson wrote:
> On 2/27/24 4:04 PM, RonO wrote:
>> On 2/20/2024 11:13 AM, Ernest Major wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2024 17:05, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:49:20 +0000, Martin Harran
>>>> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> .... I thought it might not be him as it seems strange that he
>>>>> would still
>>>>> be employed as a lecturer at 80 years of age.
>>>>
>>>> Brain fart - 78 years of age.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 77; he would have been 78 next month.
>>>
>>
>> For some reason my posts are not showing up. I've had trouble just
>> getting eternal september to open posts.  I was updated, and had to
>> reload TO, but nothing has been working.  I posted to the Dirt DNA
>> thread, but it didn't show up.  For the last couple of weeks when I
>> click on a post it either opens to a blank page or it goes to a bar at
>> the top of the window and ony a partial post is displayed below.  It
>> is a worthless feature that should have never been implemented.  Why
>> would anyone want to accumulate partial posts in a bar across the top
>> of the window?  Once in a while I can open a post and even respond to
>> it like I did with the Dirt DNA thread, but it doesn't seem to work.
>>
>> So this is sort of a test post.
>>
>> Nyikos had to prevaricate and lie about the Phillip Johnson quote
>> where Johnson admitted that the ID science didn't exist and that he
>> had given up on teaching ID in the public schools after the Dover
>> decision. Nyikos would usually just snip and run from the quote, but
>> once he put up the lame argument that Johnson could be disregarded
>> because he was old. Nyikos, at that time, was older than Phillip
>> Johnson when Johnson had made the quote (Johnson had been 65 years
>> old).  So Nyikos claimed that he was old enough so that his opinions
>> could be disregarded.  A true TO tale.
>>
>> Ron Okimoto
>>
> Several people have recently had problems with ES.  The paid-for
> newsreaders are probably more reliable.
>

Well, it looks like my posts are getting through. My troubles started
when I donated to the cause, and got some special update. The update
had multiple issues like I had to keep clicking on posts until they
opened, and often the posts would go straight to that bar across the top
of the window and only a partial post would be displayed below. I had
to keep clicking on a post until it opened normally. I was updated
again a little over a week ago and have had issues posting. I had to
reload TO, again, and it would not do the full download even though that
was an option. Now I click on a post and often get a blank page.
Things seem to have gotten better. I must have gotten some type of bug fix.

Ron Okimoto

Ron Okimoto

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 01:44 UTC

erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/27/24 6:54 AM, John Harshman wrote:
>> On 2/27/24 5:06 AM, Ernest Major wrote:
>>> On 27/02/2024 12:29, jillery wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:24:20 -0800 (PST), Burkhard
>>>> <b.schafer@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just saw this:
>>>>> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>>>>>
>>>>> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the
>>>>> details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be
>>>>> a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the
>>>>> type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of
>>>>> course> That  the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a
>>>>> week,  before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting
>>>>> memorial imaginable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For anybody who might care about such things, the above post is one of
>>>> a dozen which Eternal September failed to capture.
>>>
>>> It did have it originally, but has since disappeared ("expired"). The
>>> same happened to a couple of posts from MarkE.
>>
>> Well, you have to admit that "expired" is appropriate in this case.
>>
> I still see Burkhard's post, as well as MarkE's, but I'm paying for it.
>
I have my newsreader set to only keep 30 days worth of posts so still see
Burkhard’s. I see a post by MarkE. Weirdly I wasn’t seeing some Daggett
posts but saw one clouded which I clicked to download manually. I’ve
noticed that every once in a while. Not sure what that’s about. Neither
Burkhard nor Daggett are probably gonna be active anymore though we could
have a guess as to who winds up coming back eventually.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 01:53 UTC

John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/27/24 5:06 AM, Ernest Major wrote:
>> On 27/02/2024 12:29, jillery wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:24:20 -0800 (PST), Burkhard
>>> <b.schafer@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just saw this:
>>>> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>>>>
>>>> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the
>>>> details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a
>>>> royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type
>>>> of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course>
>>>> That  the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week,  before
>>>> getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
>>>
>>>
>>> For anybody who might care about such things, the above post is one of
>>> a dozen which Eternal September failed to capture.
>>
>> It did have it originally, but has since disappeared ("expired"). The
>> same happened to a couple of posts from MarkE.
>
> Well, you have to admit that "expired" is appropriate in this case.
>
Still too soon.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 02:17 UTC

erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/20/24 8:24 AM, Burkhard wrote:
>> I just saw this:
>> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>>
>> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details
>> fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain
>> in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he
>> always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version
>> of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived
>> forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
>>
> I am genuinely unhappy to hear this. Peter and I have had many
> rancorous exchanges over the years, but I have over the last year come
> to the realization that mutual miscommunication was the cause of most of
> them. I never found it easy to understand what Peter was "getting at"
> in his unique style of writing, but we had many common interests and he
> had strong if sometimes eccentric opinions of all of them. i believe he
> was committed to the truth as he understood it, and I too hope the God
> he wanted to believe in accepts him as he is. I'll miss him.
>
I kinda envision him giving St Peter an earful about Howard Hershey and
others. We surely got his more cantankerous and combative side. People who
knew him personally surely perceived him quite differently. I think I
managed to get things dialed down with him in the past year or so. If he
had lived longer he would have probably tackled migrating from Google
Groups and figured out the reader-server thing.

I have looked at his obit to see his friends chime in. One mentioned an
illness. He was posting so recently so I can only wonder what the onset
was. At least he was full of life so recently and posted here not that long
ago. I got the impression he had a lot on his plate but nothing about
health issues. It’s still a bit hard to process that someone who had been a
constant presence, however hard to get along with, is no longer with us! I
hope I might live as long as him and be as active and with it that close to
the end. Again RIP Peter, whatever differences we had over the years.

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*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

> Burkhard <b.schafer@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> > I just saw this:
> > https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
> >
> > assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details
> > fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain
> > in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he
> > always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version
> > of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived
> > forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
> >
> The birthdate in the death notice matches his CV:
> https://sc.edu/study/colleges_schools/artsandsciences/mathematics/our_people/p
rofile_cv/nyikos_peter_cv.pdf

No surprise here:
He was the kind of mathematician I would have expected.

Jan

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RonO <rokimoto@cox.net> writes:

> opened, and often the posts would go straight to that bar across the
> top of the window and only a partial post would be displayed below. I

Perhaps you should mention that you are using Thunderbird. Maybe post to
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 by: jillery - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:10 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:06:32 +0000, Ernest Major
<{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On 27/02/2024 12:29, jillery wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:24:20 -0800 (PST), Burkhard
>> <b.schafer@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I just saw this:
>>> https://www.templeshalloranfuneralhome.com/obituary/dr-peter-nyikos
>>>
>>> assuming it's genuine (and I have no reason to doubt this) , the details fit, as does his extended absence from posting. He could be a royal pain in the backside, but I do hope he now experiences the type of heaven he always hoped for (with a <10% certainty, of course> That the GG version of TO will survive him by barely a week, before getting archived forever, is maybe the most fitting memorial imaginable.
>>
>>
>> For anybody who might care about such things, the above post is one of
>> a dozen which Eternal September failed to capture.
>
>It did have it originally, but has since disappeared ("expired"). The
>same happened to a couple of posts from MarkE.

That sounds like someone tried to cancel the post, but cancels are
almost universally ignored, and it wouldn't explain why the other
posts are now missing from ES; alien conspiracies?

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Re: Peter Nyikos 1946 - 2024?

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 by: jillery - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:16 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 18:04:38 -0600, RonO <rokimoto@cox.net> wrote:

>On 2/20/2024 11:13 AM, Ernest Major wrote:
>> On 20/02/2024 17:05, Martin Harran wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:49:20 +0000, Martin Harran
>>> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> .... I thought it might not be him as it seems strange that he would
>>>> still
>>>> be employed as a lecturer at 80 years of age.
>>>
>>> Brain fart - 78 years of age.
>>>
>>
>> 77; he would have been 78 next month.
>>
>
>For some reason my posts are not showing up. I've had trouble just
>getting eternal september to open posts. I was updated, and had to
>reload TO, but nothing has been working. I posted to the Dirt DNA
>thread, but it didn't show up. For the last couple of weeks when I
>click on a post it either opens to a blank page or it goes to a bar at
>the top of the window and ony a partial post is displayed below. It is
>a worthless feature that should have never been implemented. Why would
>anyone want to accumulate partial posts in a bar across the top of the
>window? Once in a while I can open a post and even respond to it like I
>did with the Dirt DNA thread, but it doesn't seem to work.
>
>So this is sort of a test post.
>
>Nyikos had to prevaricate and lie about the Phillip Johnson quote where
>Johnson admitted that the ID science didn't exist and that he had given
>up on teaching ID in the public schools after the Dover decision.
>Nyikos would usually just snip and run from the quote, but once he put
>up the lame argument that Johnson could be disregarded because he was
>old. Nyikos, at that time, was older than Phillip Johnson when Johnson
>had made the quote (Johnson had been 65 years old). So Nyikos claimed
>that he was old enough so that his opinions could be disregarded. A
>true TO tale.
>
>Ron Okimoto

Sounds like you're having reader problems, as opposed to server
problems.

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