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* Neanderthal skull, Ape's profile...panther2020
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 by: panther2020 - Thu, 4 Apr 2024 14:04 UTC

Add this to your perfect fit collection, this seems to be the first
thing Danny Vendramini noticed when studying Neanderthals:

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-57b93009d27a341ed19e172c9ad3d5d9-lq

As I mentioned, the Neanderthal was a very advanced bipedal ape with
dark world eyes and a fur coat. In fact early human needles are common
but nbobody has ever found a Neanderthal needle. A creaturre with a fur
coat does not require needles....

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 by: Richmond - Thu, 4 Apr 2024 14:11 UTC

panther2020 <panther2020@vivaldi.net> writes:

> Add this to your perfect fit collection, this seems to be the first
> thing Danny Vendramini noticed when studying Neanderthals:
>
> https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-57b93009d27a341ed19e172c9ad3d5d9-lq
>
>
> As I mentioned, the Neanderthal was a very advanced bipedal ape with
> dark world eyes and a fur coat. In fact early human needles are
> common but nbobody has ever found a Neanderthal needle. A creaturre
> with a fur coat does not require needles....

Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?

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From: {$t...@meden.demon.co.uk (Ernest Major)
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 by: Ernest Major - Thu, 4 Apr 2024 15:05 UTC

On 04/04/2024 15:04, panther2020 wrote:
>
> Add this to your perfect fit collection, this seems to be the first
> thing Danny Vendramini noticed when studying Neanderthals:
>
> https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-57b93009d27a341ed19e172c9ad3d5d9-lq
>
>
> As I mentioned, the Neanderthal was a very advanced bipedal ape with
> dark world eyes and a fur coat.  In fact early human needles are common
> but nbobody has ever found a Neanderthal needle.  A creaturre with a fur
> coat does not require needles....
>

Why does a creature with a fur coat require leather processing tools?

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1302730110

The web tells me that Neandertals did produce clothing, but they laced
it together rather than sewed it together.

There's a report of a 50,000 year old needle from the Denisova Cave. I
haven't found a detailed report, but it's suggested that it's associated
with Denisovan occupancy (that cave has been occupied at different times
by Neandertals, Denisovans and modern humans, and includes skeletal
remains from a first generation Neandertal/Denisovan hybrid).
(Denisovans are more closely related to Neadertals than either are to
modern humans. Denisovan ancestry can found in many human populations in
east Asia and Australasia.)

"Early" human needles also appear to mostly postdate Neandertal extinction.

--
alias Ernest Major

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 by: panther2020 - Thu, 4 Apr 2024 16:58 UTC

On 4/4/24 09:11, Richmond wrote:
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> Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?
>

Even a very advanced ape is still an ape, and apes do not wear shoes.

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 by: panther2020 - Thu, 4 Apr 2024 17:33 UTC

On 4/4/24 10:05, Ernest Major wrote:

>
> Why does a creature with a fur coat require leather processing tools?
He doesn't, i.e. your source is a bunch of BS (bad science), My guess
would be that the only thing Neanderthals ever did with hides was singe
the furr off them and then eat them.

Nothing to say about Neanderthal skulls being perfect fits for apes'
profiles???

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 by: Ernest Major - Thu, 4 Apr 2024 21:04 UTC

On 04/04/2024 18:33, panther2020 wrote:
> On 4/4/24 10:05, Ernest Major wrote:
>
>>
>> Why does a creature with a fur coat require leather processing tools?
> He doesn't, i.e. your source is a bunch of BS (bad science),  My guess
> would be that the only thing Neanderthals ever did with hides was singe
> the furr off them and then eat them.

And I think that your position is BS (bad science) (e.g. the BS claim
that the Neandertal genome is close to the chimpanzee genome than to the
modern human genome); scarcely better than the hypothesis that humans
are hybrids of chimpanzees and pigs. Dismissing evidence that doesn't
fit your hypothesis is not to the way to find the truth - if you want to
be taken seriously you have to address it.

>
> Nothing to say about Neanderthal skulls being perfect fits for apes'
> profiles???
>

Only that you've been hoodwinked. The Neandertal skull has been rotated
backwards and rescaled to make it fit the chimpanzee profile.

How does a Neandertal brain well over 3 times the size of a chimpanzee's
fit inside the ape's profile?

There's plenty of skeletal evidence that the genus Homo as a whole
(never mind other hominins) are bipedal. Part of this evidence is the
position of the foramen magnum, which is in the same position in
Neandertals as in modern humans, and different from the position in
quadripedal apes. Neandertals have brow ridges; modern humans don't.
That's an awfully thin foundation to support your weight of speculation.

Neandertal skulls look like modern human skulls, not chimpanzee skulls.

https://www.pinterest.com.mx/pin/530510031096724012/

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/f7/1b/95f71b2f16140fcf40c3e24fa2cfe040.jpg

Nothing to say about the Denisova Cave needle?

--
alias Ernest Major

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 by: RonO - Thu, 4 Apr 2024 23:07 UTC

On 4/4/2024 9:04 AM, panther2020 wrote:
>
> Add this to your perfect fit collection, this seems to be the first
> thing Danny Vendramini noticed when studying Neanderthals:
>
> https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-57b93009d27a341ed19e172c9ad3d5d9-lq
>
>
> As I mentioned, the Neanderthal was a very advanced bipedal ape with
> dark world eyes and a fur coat.  In fact early human needles are common
> but nbobody has ever found a Neanderthal needle.  A creaturre with a fur
> coat does not require needles....
>

What a troll. What size chimp would it take to be able to have a
Neanderthal skull size? Remember Neanderthals had larger cranial
capacities than most extant humans. They had big heads and stout
bodies. So what would be the size of the chimp if it had a Neanderthal
sized skull?

Ron Okimoto

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 07:30 UTC

On 2024-04-04 16:58:32 +0000, panther2020 said:

> On 4/4/24 09:11, Richmond wrote:
>>
>> Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?
>>
>
> Even a very advanced ape is still an ape, and apes do not wear shoes.

I'm an ape, as I expect you are (discarding the alternative hypothesis
that you're a computer program -- certainly not a panther, anyway), and
I wear shoes.

--
athel cb : Biochemical Evolution, Garland Science, 2016

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 by: Richmond - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 08:12 UTC

panther2020 <panther2020@vivaldi.net> writes:

> On 4/4/24 09:11, Richmond wrote:
>> Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?
>>
>
> Even a very advanced ape is still an ape, and apes do not wear shoes.

How odd that they wear fur coats but not shoes. How do they keep their
toes warm? Socks?

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 by: Robert Carnegie - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 21:39 UTC

On 05/04/2024 09:12, Richmond wrote:
> panther2020 <panther2020@vivaldi.net> writes:
>
>> On 4/4/24 09:11, Richmond wrote:
>>> Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?
>>>
>>
>> Even a very advanced ape is still an ape, and apes do not wear shoes.
>
> How odd that they wear fur coats but not shoes. How do they keep their
> toes warm? Socks?

Fur coat, and no sneakers!

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 by: Burkhard - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 21:56 UTC

Robert Carnegie wrote:

> On 05/04/2024 09:12, Richmond wrote:
>> panther2020 <panther2020@vivaldi.net> writes:
>>
>>> On 4/4/24 09:11, Richmond wrote:
>>>> Didn't they need to sew their shoes together?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Even a very advanced ape is still an ape, and apes do not wear shoes.
>>
>> How odd that they wear fur coats but not shoes. How do they keep their
>> toes warm? Socks?

> Fur coat, and no sneakers!

And they died out from thirst, always being told
"You'll Have Had Your Tea"?


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