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 by: Nick - Fri, 8 Dec 2023 19:04 UTC

Miscalculations, divisions marked offensive planning by U.S., Ukraine …

On June 15, in a conference room at NATO headquarters in Brussels, Defense
Secretary Lloyd Austin, flanked by top U.S. commanders, sat around a table
with his Ukrainian counterpart, who was joined by aides from Kyiv. The
room was heavy with an air of frustration.

Austin, in his deliberate baritone, asked Ukrainian Defense Minister
Oleksii Reznikov about Ukraine’s decision-making in the opening days of
its long-awaited counteroffensive, pressing him on why his forces weren’t
using Western-supplied mine-clearing equipment to enable a larger,
mechanized assault, or using smoke to conceal their advances. Despite
Russia’s thick defensive lines, Austin said, the Kremlin’s troops weren’t
invincible.

“We can’t maneuver because of the land-mine density and tank ambushes,”
Reznikov said, according to an official who was present.

The meeting in Brussels, less than two weeks into the campaign,
illustrates how a counteroffensive born in optimism has failed to deliver
its expected punch, generating friction and second-guessing between
Washington and Kyiv and raising deeper questions about Ukraine’s ability
to retake decisive amounts of territory.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-
us-planning-russia-war/

Малко дълго разследване, че има и втора част за тези, на които им е
интересно.

И що така бе, мимета? Пак ли руска пропаганда?

Обсебения има ли какво да каже за свое оправдание или пак ще мълчи
засрамено?

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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From: sananto...@sanantonio.com (SanAntonio)
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Subject: Re: Miscalculations, divisions marked offensive planning by U.S.,

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 by: SanAntonio - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:00 UTC

On 2023-12-08, Nick <ddantgwyn@mail.ru> wrote:
> Miscalculations, divisions marked offensive planning by U.S., Ukraine …
>
> On June 15, in a conference room at NATO headquarters in Brussels, Defense
> Secretary Lloyd Austin, flanked by top U.S. commanders, sat around a table
> with his Ukrainian counterpart, who was joined by aides from Kyiv. The
> room was heavy with an air of frustration.
>
> Austin, in his deliberate baritone, asked Ukrainian Defense Minister
> Oleksii Reznikov about Ukraine’s decision-making in the opening days of
> its long-awaited counteroffensive, pressing him on why his forces weren’t
> using Western-supplied mine-clearing equipment to enable a larger,
> mechanized assault, or using smoke to conceal their advances. Despite
> Russia’s thick defensive lines, Austin said, the Kremlin’s troops weren’t
> invincible.
>
> “We can’t maneuver because of the land-mine density and tank ambushes,”
> Reznikov said, according to an official who was present.
>
> The meeting in Brussels, less than two weeks into the campaign,
> illustrates how a counteroffensive born in optimism has failed to deliver
> its expected punch, generating friction and second-guessing between
> Washington and Kyiv and raising deeper questions about Ukraine’s ability
> to retake decisive amounts of territory.
>
> …
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-
> us-planning-russia-war/
>
> Малко дълго разследване, че има и втора част за тези, на които им е
> интересно.
>
> И що така бе, мимета? Пак ли руска пропаганда?
>
> Обсебения има ли какво да каже за свое оправдание или пак ще мълчи
> засрамено?

Хм, интересно - това не се показва …

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 by: Nick - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:05 UTC

On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 20:00:33 -0000 (UTC), SanAntonio wrote:

> On 2023-12-08, Nick <ddantgwyn@mail.ru> wrote:

>> Miscalculations, divisions marked offensive planning by U.S., Ukraine …

>> On June 15, in a conference room at NATO headquarters in Brussels,
>> Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, flanked by top U.S. commanders, sat
>> around a table with his Ukrainian counterpart, who was joined by aides
>> from Kyiv. The room was heavy with an air of frustration.

>> Austin, in his deliberate baritone, asked Ukrainian Defense Minister
>> Oleksii Reznikov about Ukraine’s decision-making in the opening days of
>> its long-awaited counteroffensive, pressing him on why his forces
>> weren’t using Western-supplied mine-clearing equipment to enable a
>> larger,
>> mechanized assault, or using smoke to conceal their advances. Despite
>> Russia’s thick defensive lines, Austin said, the Kremlin’s troops
>> weren’t invincible.

>> “We can’t maneuver because of the land-mine density and tank ambushes,”
>> Reznikov said, according to an official who was present.

>> The meeting in Brussels, less than two weeks into the campaign,
>> illustrates how a counteroffensive born in optimism has failed to
>> deliver its expected punch, generating friction and second-guessing
>> between Washington and Kyiv and raising deeper questions about
>> Ukraine’s ability to retake decisive amounts of territory.

>> …

>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-
counteroffensive-us-planning-russia-war/

>> Малко дълго разследване, че има и втора част за тези, на които им е
>> интересно.

>> И що така бе, мимета? Пак ли руска пропаганда?

>> Обсебения има ли какво да каже за свое оправдание или пак ще мълчи
>> засрамено?

> Хм, интересно - това не се показва …

Както и предполагах - онзи сбъркан символ в заглавието оплесква нещата.

Колкото до това, че статията опровергавала руската пропаганда за
управлението на украинците от натовски генерали - обсебения да прочете пак
статията, може и втората част да прочете и да се опита да я осмисли.

За мен по-скоро я потвърждава, наред с другите простотии, които посочва.

И да му напомня, че тези простотии доведоха до огромните украински загуби
в жива сила. За руските няма да говоря, защото те нали са агресори, би
трябвало да са наясно, че ще имат такива.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»


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