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* Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web RemailersNomen Nescio
+- Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web RemailersAnonymous Remailer
+* Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web RemailersAnonymous
|+* Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web RemailersNomen Nescio
||`- Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web RemailersAnonymous
|`- Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web RemailersFritz Wuehler
`* Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web RemailersAnonymous Remailer
 `- Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web RemailersAnonymous Remailer

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Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers

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From: nob...@dizum.com (Nomen Nescio)
Subject: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers
Message-ID: <18ef06c390f9576f2ceff4dc168c12c3@dizum.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 06:59:28 +0200 (CEST)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Nomen Nescio - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 04:59 UTC

In article <20220821.025245.ed03db4a@mixmin.net>
Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
>
> On 8/20/2022 4:02 PM, Yamn Remailer wrote:
>
> > Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> To all the privacy experts,
> >>
> >> Are there any anonymous web remailers like anonymouse.org out
> >> there on the internet.
> >
>
>
> All the web based remailers are gone.
>
> I think the only service left is Cotse.

http://anonymouse.org/anonnews_de.html

Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers

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Message-Id: <20220822.164246.b92352c0@mixmin.net>
From: remai...@domain.invalid (Anonymous Remailer)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 16:42:46 +0100
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Anonymous Remailer - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 15:42 UTC

On 8/21/2022 9:59 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

> In article <20220821.025245.ed03db4a@mixmin.net>
> Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/20/2022 4:02 PM, Yamn Remailer wrote:
>>
>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To all the privacy experts,
>>>>
>>>> Are there any anonymous web remailers like anonymouse.org out
>>>> there on the internet.
>>>
>>
>>
>> All the web based remailers are gone.
>>
>> I think the only service left is Cotse.
>
> http://anonymouse.org/anonnews_de.html
>

Anonymouse uses Mixmaster?

Really???

Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers

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From: nob...@yamn.paranoici.org (Anonymous)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 16:38:23 +0000
References: <18ef06c390f9576f2ceff4dc168c12c3@dizum.com>
Subject: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers
Mime-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Anonymous - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 16:38 UTC

Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
>
> http://anonymouse.org/anonnews_de.html

I would not trust a any anonymous Web remailer.

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From: nob...@dizum.com (Nomen Nescio)
References: <18ef06c390f9576f2ceff4dc168c12c3@dizum.com>
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Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers
Message-ID: <e36ce5d6ebdf71964fd97fd4c3cc93a9@dizum.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 19:37:25 +0200 (CEST)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Nomen Nescio - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 17:37 UTC

In article <20220822.163823.24f06e3b@yamn.paranoici.org>
Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> wrote:
>
> Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
> >
> > http://anonymouse.org/anonnews_de.html
>
> I would not trust a any anonymous Web remailer.

Access it via Tor.

Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers

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From: nob...@remailer.paranoici.org (Anonymous)
References: <e36ce5d6ebdf71964fd97fd4c3cc93a9@dizum.com>
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers
Message-ID: <f81fea6e5236c1f2412e322de759dcb9@remailer.paranoici.org>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 23:15:06 +0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Anonymous - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 23:15 UTC

On 8/22/2022 10:37 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

> In article <20220822.163823.24f06e3b@yamn.paranoici.org>
> Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> wrote:
>>
>> Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://anonymouse.org/anonnews_de.html
>>
>> I would not trust a any anonymous Web remailer.
>
> Access it via Tor.
>

Tor obscures our IP, but that's it.

Anonymouse doesn't even use HTTPS so all your traffic is in
plaintext.

The operators of Anonymouse can read all your traffic and see your
IP.

Anonymouse is NOT anonymous. No way.

Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers

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From: fri...@spamexpire-202208.rodent.frell.theremailer.net (Fritz Wuehler)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 02:11:43 +0200
References: <18ef06c390f9576f2ceff4dc168c12c3@dizum.com>
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Message-Id: <20220823.021143.ff107369@remailer.frell.eu.org>
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers
Mime-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Fritz Wuehler - Tue, 23 Aug 2022 00:11 UTC

On 8/22/2022 9:38 AM, Anonymous wrote:

> Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> wrote:
>>
>> http://anonymouse.org/anonnews_de.html
>
> I would not trust a any anonymous Web remailer.
>

Definitely not.

But Anonymouse is an especially bad recommendation

Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 01:45:38 +0100
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Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers
Message-Id: <20220823.014538.5ce852d9@mixmin.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
From: remai...@domain.invalid (Anonymous Remailer)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Anonymous Remailer - Tue, 23 Aug 2022 00:45 UTC

On 8/22/2022 10:22 AM, D wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 06:59:28 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://anonymouse.org/anonnews_de.html
>
> also in English:
> http://anonymouse.org/anonnews.html
>
> "With AnonNews it is possible to post entries in newsgroups
> without revealing your e-mail address or any information about
> your identity. So you can communicate more freely and do not
> have to worry that it might cause consequences for you. This
> service allows you to post entries in newsgroups without
> revealing any personal information. Protect your privacy,
> protect your data, protect it for free."
>
> it does connect (but _without_ https) through tor browser:
> https://www.torproject.org/
>
> just sent test message to inactive group ... may take "12 hours"
> to see results ... for insecure pseudo-anon news posts, why not?

Stay far away from Anonymouse.

Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers

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From: remai...@domain.invalid (Anonymous Remailer)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 06:05:41 +0100
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Any Anonymous Web Remailers
Message-Id: <20220823.060541.b2c403e2@mixmin.net>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Anonymous Remailer - Tue, 23 Aug 2022 05:05 UTC

On 8/22/2022 7:57 PM, D wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Aug 2022 01:45:38 +0100, Anonymous Remailer <remailer@domain.invalid> wrote:
>> On 8/22/2022 10:22 AM, D wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 06:59:28 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>>> http://anonymouse.org/anonnews_de.html
>>> also in English:
>>> http://anonymouse.org/anonnews.html
>>>
>>> just sent test message to inactive group ... may take "12 hours"
>>> to see results ... for insecure pseudo-anon news posts, why not?
>>
>> Stay far away from Anonymouse.
>
> Fwiw, the aforementioned test message to an inactive group did post
> within a couple of hours with the following familiar dizum headers:
>
> From: Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>
> Subject: -
> Message-ID: -
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022
> Newsgroups: -
> Path: - !news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
> Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
> X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
> Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com
> Xref: -
> -------------------------------------
>
> So it does work through unsecure http tor browser(v11.5) connection,
> the obvious red flag being that tor all by itself is nowhere near as
> secure as using random mix/yamn chains, etc.; but also, worst of all,
> that the message itself was _unencrypted_ at its injection point(!).
> Even so, webmailers may have convenient uses...e.g. for testing tor.
>

+1


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