On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:13:13 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 1:45:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
>
> > Good afternoon Jordy, again, well put.
> > bonjour, Will

Hello there, my friend.

:)

On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 4:32:20 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:29:47 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > "Hear no evil, don't you
> > See no evil, don't you
> > Lay no evil down on me?
> > (You're gonna burn in hell)"
> > --'Burn In Hell'~~Twisted Sister
> YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS? IT'S CORRECTION TIME!
> Why not? It ain't like anyone is paying attention to a thread that they've seen every day for the last 12 months and is just being bumped by fake greetings. Alas, the idiocy that is poetry commentary by those claiming to have the only "real poetry"*!!!
>
> * According to noddispeak Zod
> "Hear no evil, don't you
> See no evil, don't you
> Lay no evil down on me?
> (You're gonna burn in hell)"
> --'Burn In Hell'~~Twisted Sister
> Not all may be autobiographic, even if intended, especially by someone who lies about what other people say and refuses to make good when they have to admit to it, huh Mr Shadowville?

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/cQx-pzvZMR8/m/B_2qGSkuAAAJ
Ash Wurthing
Jul 9, 2023, 10:00:35 PM
Hello sWilly, you're slacking in your attempted laming and shaming-- we need this up top for everyone to see Dance's and your true faces...
I didn't say "All the World's a stage." The Bard doesn't own the concept that the World being Life's stage, it's a common concept and saying now, and he's not the only one among billions and centuries that could come up with that concept-- anyone not even knowing what he wrote could come up with that.
For those that think everything is a direct Shakespeare reference, there's more things in the World, armchairist, than you know in that narrow minded, self absorbed world view of yours.
"They do say that the World is a stage and so would be the venues of the Digital Age."

Will Dockery
Jul 10, 2023, 12:36:49 AM
On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 10:00:35 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 7:33:30 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-5, George Dance wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 9:22:14 AM UTC-5, Ash Wurthing decided to prove he did, too, know something about English poetry by namedropping William Shakespeare (with hilarious results):
> > > > Now where was I?
> > > > Is that the smell of burnt threads in the morning? Incinerated intentions and dreams scorched? How pleasing, it inspires me to recite some verses!
> > > > They do say that the World is a stage
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Here

< I didn't say "All the World's a stage."

See above, apparently you did. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ash Wurthing
Jul 10, 2023, 6:44:46 AM
Actually copy and paste the sentence from my words that says "All the World's a stage," if that is so... I bet you can't...

W.Dockery
Jul 10, 2023, 7:25:10 AM
Okay, you wrote "the World is a stage."

Ash Wurthing
Jul 10, 2023, 8:43:29 PM
Nonapology noted...
and since that's all you give for me to comment on, then I shall comment on it's cowardliness.

W.Dockery
Jul 10, 2023, 9:10:12 PM
Ash Wurthing wrote:
< Nonapology noted

That's right, no apology.

* * * * *
Shallow minds lost in empty shells with noting redeeming can they find while trapped in their own Hells

On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 10:02:15 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:30:11 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:38:22 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:55:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:08:26 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:13:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 10:18:18 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:53:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 10:18:18 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 7:31:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Jordy C. wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters..... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Shalom Will
> > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hello there my friend, hope your weekend is going well so far.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks, same to you.
>
> > Hello there Jordy, great to see you again today.
>
> bonjour, Will

Good afternoon my friend.

Jordy C wrote:
> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:55:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:08:26 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Shalom Will
> > >
> > > > >> Hello there my friend, hope your weekend is going well so far.
> > >
> > > > > Thanks, same to you.
> > >
> > > > Hello there Jordy, great to see you again today.
> > >
> > > Bonjour, Will
> > Good evening, my friend.
> Hola Mr Will

Hope you're having a great weekend so far my friend.

🙂

On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:08:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 10:02:15 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 9:30:11 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:38:22 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:55:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:08:26 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 6:13:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 10:18:18 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:53:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 10:18:18 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 7:31:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Jordy C. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Shalom Will
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hello there my friend, hope your weekend is going well so far.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks, same to you.
> >
> > > Hello there Jordy, great to see you again today.
> >
> > bonjour, Will
>
> Good afternoon my friend.
Shalom Will

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:18:24 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:55:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:08:26 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters..... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Shalom Will
> > > >
> > > > > >> Hello there my friend, hope your weekend is going well so far.
> > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, same to you.
> > > >
> > > > > Hello there Jordy, great to see you again today.
> > > >
> > > > Bonjour, Will
> > > Good evening, my friend.
> > Hola Mr Will
> Hope you're having a great weekend so far my friend.
>
> 🙂
thank you, same to you

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:12:21 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:08:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 10:02:15 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Shalom Will
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Hello there my friend, hope your weekend is going well so far.
>
> Shalom Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

:)

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 5:11:02 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:12:21 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:08:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 10:02:15 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Shalom Will
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> Hello there my friend, hope your weekend is going well so far.
> >
> > Shalom Will
>
> Good afternoon, Jordy.
>
> :)
bonjour, Will

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:12:31 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:18:24 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:55:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:08:26 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters..... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Shalom Will
>
> > > > > Hello there Jordy, great to see you again today.
> >
> > > Hola Mr Will
> > Hope you're having a great weekend so far my friend.
> >
>
> thank you, same to you

Good morning my friend, great to see a friendly face here again.

🙂

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:43:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:12:31 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:18:24 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Jordy C wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:55:46 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:08:26 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Shalom Will
> >
> > > > > > Hello there Jordy, great to see you again today.
> > >
> > > > Hola Mr Will
> > > Hope you're having a great weekend so far my friend.
> > >
> >
> > thank you, same to you
> Good morning my friend, great to see a friendly face here again.
>
> 🙂

Bonjour, Will

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:50:54 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:43:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:12:31 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Shalom Will
> > >
> > > > > > > Hello there Jordy, great to see you again today.
>
> Bonjour, Will

Good afternoon, my friend, hope you're having a nice weekend.

:)

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:03:02 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:50:54 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:43:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:12:31 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Shalom Will
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello there Jordy, great to see you again today.
> >
> > Bonjour, Will
>
> Good afternoon, my friend, hope you're having a nice weekend.
>
> :)
thank you, same to you

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:56:01 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:03:02 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:50:54 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
>>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
>
>> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of > > >> > Sh
>
> Bonjour, Will

Good morning, Jordy.

🙂

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 11:42:32 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:56:01 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:03:02 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:50:54 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> >
> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of > > >> > Sh
> >
> > Bonjour, Will
>
> Good morning, Jordy.
>
> 🙂

hey will.... good to see you , on a night like this !

kinda early for ya, isn't it?

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:42:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:56:01 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:03:02 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:50:54 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> >
> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of > > >> > Sh
> >
> > Bonjour, Will
>
> Good morning, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
Shalom Will

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:51:51 AM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 11:42:32 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:56:01 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:03:02 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:50:54 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > >
> > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of > > >> > Sh
> > >
> > > Bonjour, Will
> >
> > Good morning, Jordy.
> >
>
> hey will.... good to see you , on a night like this !
>
> kinda early for ya, isn't it?

Hello there Rachel, it was probably a post and run.

🙂

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:10:24 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:42:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:56:01 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:03:02 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:50:54 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > >
> > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of > > >> > Sh
> > >
> > > Bonjour, Will
> >
> > Good morning, Jordy.
> >
>
> Shalom Will

Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice Saturday morning so far.

🙂

On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 4:47:29 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:10:24 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:42:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:56:01 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:03:02 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:50:54 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > >
> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of > > >> > Sh
> > > >
> > > > Bonjour, Will
> > >
> > > Good morning, Jordy.
> > >
> >
> > Shalom Will
> Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice Saturday morning so far.
>
> 🙂
thank you, same to you

On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:54:06 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 4:47:29 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:10:24 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical..
> > > > >
> > > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of > > >> > Sh
> > > > >
> > > > > Bonjour, Will
>
> > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice Saturday morning so far.
> >
>
> thank you, same to you

Good afternoon again, Jordy.

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:54:06 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 4:47:29 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 11:10:24 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of > > >> > Sh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bonjour, Will
> >
> > > Hello there my friend, hope you're having a nice Saturday morning so far.
> > >
> >
> > thank you, same to you
> Good afternoon again, Jordy.
Shalom Will

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 11:32:23 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:54:06 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem." -Karla Rogers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bonjour, Will
>
> > Good afternoon again, Jordy.
> Shalom Will

Hello there, my friend.

:)

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:18:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 11:32:23 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:54:06 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem." -Karla Rogers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bonjour, Will
> >
> > > Good afternoon again, Jordy.
> > Shalom Will
> Hello there, my friend.
>
> :)
hola Mr Will

On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 8:22:50 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:18:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 11:32:23 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem." -Karla Rogers
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bonjour, Will
> > >
> > > > Good afternoon again, Jordy.
> > > Shalom Will
> > Hello there, my friend.
> >
>
> hola Mr Will

Great to see you again this morning, Jordy.

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 9:25:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 8:22:50 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:18:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 11:32:23 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem." -Karla Rogers
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Bonjour, Will
> > > >
> > > > > Good afternoon again, Jordy.
> > > > Shalom Will
> > > Hello there, my friend.
> > >
> >
> > hola Mr Will
>
> Great to see you again this morning, Jordy.
bonjour, Will

Jordy C wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 9:25:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 8:22:50 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
>> > > > > > > > > >>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a ssarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>> > > > > > > > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>> > > > > > > > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem." -Karla Rogers
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Bonjour, Will
>
>> > > Hello there, my friend.
>> > >
>> >
>> > hola Mr Will
>>
>> Great to see you again this morning, Jordy.
> bonjour, Will

Good afternoon again, Jordy.