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* Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!jdcha...@gmail.com
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|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Zod
|+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
|+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W-Dockery
|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W-Dockery
|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
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+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Michael Pendragon
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Family Guy
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Ash Wurthing
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarillyGeorge J. Dance
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Zod
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W-Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Zod
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Faraway Star
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Ash Wurthing
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Faraway Star
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!General-Zod
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will-Dockery
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Subject: Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!
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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 28 Feb 2023 22:51 UTC

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:50:14 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > Good evening my friend, great to see you tonight.
> > >> >
> > >> > Shalom Will
> > >>
> > >> Hello again, my friend.
>
> bonjour, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy, great to see you today.

:)

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 by: Jordy C - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 05:23 UTC

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 5:51:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:50:14 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> > > Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > Good evening my friend, great to see you tonight.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Shalom Will
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello again, my friend.
> >
> > bonjour, Will
>
> Good afternoon, Jordy, great to see you today.
>
> :)

Shalom Will

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 by: W.Dockery - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 20:52 UTC

Jordy C wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 5:51:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
>> > On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:50:14 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>> > > Jordy C wrote:
>> >
>> > > >> > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > Good evening my friend, great to see you tonight.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Shalom Will
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Hello again, my friend.
>> >
>> > bonjour, Will
>>
>> Good afternoon, Jordy, great to see you today.
>>
>

> Shalom Will

Hello again Jordy, great to see you again this afternoon.

🙂

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 by: Jordy C - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 02:29 UTC

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 3:55:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 5:51:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> >> > On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:50:14 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> > > Jordy C wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > Good evening my friend, great to see you tonight.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Shalom Will
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Hello again, my friend.
> >> >
> >> > bonjour, Will
> >>
> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, great to see you today.
> >>
> >
> > Shalom Will
>
> Hello again Jordy, great to see you again this afternoon.
>
> 🙂
hola Will

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 by: W-Dockery - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 03:54 UTC

Jordy C wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 3:55:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 5:51:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
>> >> > On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:50:14 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> > > Jordy C wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Good evening my friend, great to see you tonight.
>> >> > > >> >
>> >> > > >> > Shalom Will
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Hello again, my friend.
>> >> >
>> >> > bonjour, Will
>> >>
>> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, great to see you today.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Shalom Will
>>
>> Hello again Jordy, great to see you again this afternoon.
>>
>
> hola Will

Good evening, Jordy.

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:48 UTC

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:55:13 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 3:55:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 5:51:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> >> >> > On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:50:14 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > > Jordy C wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Good evening my friend, great to see you tonight.
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >> > Shalom Will
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> Hello again, my friend.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> >>
> >> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, great to see you today.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Shalom Will
> >>
> >> Hello again Jordy, great to see you again this afternoon.
> >>
> >
> > hola Will
> Good evening, Jordy.

And here I foolishly thought you all might be constructively discussing the issue-- but no, I'm apparently the greater fool thinking that you tools can be used for anything constructive.

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:09 UTC

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:59:21 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
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> > Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:50:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > >>
> > >> Keeping this thread on topic, well put, Jordy.
> > >>
> > >
> > > thank you, Will
> >
> > Good evening, Jordy
>
> Shalom Will

Hello again Jordy, great to see you this morning.

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 by: Jordy C - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:53 UTC

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:09:07 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:59:21 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 8:25:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:50:13 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > > >>
> > > >> Keeping this thread on topic, well put, Jordy.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > thank you, Will
> > >
> > > Good evening, Jordy
> >
> > Shalom Will
> Hello again Jordy, great to see you this morning.
bonjour, Will

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On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 5:55:51 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
>
> Yep... this is a poetry truism....

I don't know-- when someone inserts their name, events from their life and names of associates into their work-- it sure stinks of autobiographical...

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On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:53:39 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:09:07 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:59:21 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
>
> > Hello again Jordy, great to see you this morning.
> bonjour, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

:)

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On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 3:44:18 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:53:39 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:09:07 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 9:59:21 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> >
> > > Hello again Jordy, great to see you this morning.
> > bonjour, Will
> Good afternoon, Jordy.
>
> :)
Hola Will

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Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?
Nothing is remiss to those imprisoned in
their warped reality of "according to me"-
the World determined by their ego's decree,
not the missed opportunities they refuse to see-
for their seas are only colored by past glories...
~~Ash of Wurthing

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 4 Mar 2023 22:17 UTC

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:55:49 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 3:44:18 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:53:39 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> > >
> > > > Hello again Jordy, great to see you this morning.
> > > bonjour, Will
> > Good afternoon, Jordy.
>
> Hola Will

Hello there Jordy, great to see a friendly face these days.

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On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 5:17:41 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:55:49 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 3:44:18 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:53:39 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > > >
> > > > > Hello again Jordy, great to see you this morning.
> > > > bonjour, Will
> > > Good afternoon, Jordy.
> >
> > Hola Will
>
> Hello there Jordy, great to see a friendly face these days.
Shalom Will

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Jordy C wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > Jordy C wrote:
>> >
>> > > >> > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
>
>>
>> Good afternoon, Jordy, great to see you today.
>

> Shalom Will

Hello again, my friend.

:)

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Jordy C wrote:

> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:55:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>
>> >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
>> >> > autobiographical.
>> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>> >>
>> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>> >>
>> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
>
> bonjour, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy, great to see you again today.

:)

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On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 5:05:16 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > Jordy C wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> >
> >>
> >> Good afternoon, Jordy, great to see you today.
> >
> > Shalom Will
>
> Hello again, my friend.
> :)
bonjour, Will

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On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 8:45:35 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 5:05:16 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Jordy C wrote:
> > >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > Jordy C wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Good afternoon, Jordy, great to see you today.
> > >
> > > Shalom Will
> >
> > Hello again, my friend.
> > :)
> bonjour, Will

Hi Jordy. Happy St. Paddy's Day!

***DISCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING POEM IS ENTIRELY FICTIONAL. ANY SIMILARITIES TO PERSON OR PERSONS LIVING OR DEAD IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL.***

THE SAGA OF JORDAN T. CHASESCOTT

Uncle Isaac took his belt
And gave Young Jordy 40 welts.
Jordy grew to like the whacks
And Uncle Isaac’s touching acts.

Isaac Chase thought that Jordy was cute
'Specially dressed in his new birthday suit,
Isaac squeezed his love handles
Then blew out his candles,
Bent over and let out a "Toot!"

Isaac pulled his nephew's pid
Sucked him dry then tongued his hole;
Nephew Jordy was just a kid
When he first straddled Isaac's pole.

Isaac rode Jordy bareback at seven
And cornholed him big-time at eight
He left him creampied at eleven
And went back home to masturbate.

Isaac groped little Jordy on Friday
Isaac sucked him off Saturday night
Isaac fucked Jordy six times on Sunday
Yeah, his weekend was going alright.

There's only on "t" in "Sonnet."

Isaac nailed Jordy on summer's day.
Beneath the willow by the backdoor gate:
He squeezed his lovebuds, then he had his way
But quick release cut all too short the date;
Sometime too hot the elder Chase becomes
And often spills his load ere passion's dimm'd;
Where is the joy in picking Jordy's plums
Or planting kisses in his grass untrimm'd
When shorts are cream'd and flaccid members fail?
Thou Jordy's willing, Ike gave up the ghost;
Still discontent, he fondles Jordy's tale,
For tis the ass enamors him the most:
So long as Isaac still has eyes to see,
He'll strap one one and stick it to Jordy.

Isaac chased boys when he was a toddler
He chased toddlers when he went school,
He made brownies with them as a young man,
Stirred their pudding until he would drool.

Isaac chased little boys on the playground
Although he was a middle aged man,
Donkey punched till his mudpacker turned brown
Tho he preferred to say it was tan.
The Jordy Factor
a poem by Will Dockery as told to NancyGene

Jordy’s a good sub for dead Lady K
He jiggles his ass and says it’s foreplay
with my massive moobs that even young Clay
has to admit that he’d like to sashay
in the chorus that kicks on LeGents parquet
floor where Jordy and I rolled ‘round in May
when he visited us to show us his fey
manners and though his family’s rich, hey,
I’m not too proud to say that I’d lay
him for free and he won’t have to pay
for extras like hi there’s, night-nights and oy veys.

Isaac Chase was a pixie I knew
Who diddled his widdle nephew,
Jordy pulled Isaac's pud
But his pud was a dud
And now poor Isaac's sack has turned blue.

When Jordy was just a wee laddie
He'd pull down his pants for his daddy,
Uncle paid him a call
And buggered him raw
And Jordy cried "Uncle Ike had me."

Isaac had a young nephew named Jordy
Whose tuchus he simply adored, he
Got Jordy to bare it
That he might then share it
And buggered the boy while he roared "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!"

Uncle Isaac didn't care for his mommy,
His classmates found him a bit balmy;
It was said that the lad
Flicked his Bic for his dad:
Now chows on Nephew Jordy's shalomi.

Uncle Isaac desired little boys
He thought Jordy had exquisite poise
For a boy not yet ten
(He preferred boys to men)
And a man must have what he enjoys.

Little Jordy was sugar and spice
So his old uncle didn't think twice
About dipping his pole
In young Jordy's piehole,
Boston cream never seemed worth the price.

Uncle Isaac's an internet troll
Who fingered his nephew's dunghole,
Isaac stuck in his thumb
And made Jordy cum
And cried "Hola, Will -- I'm on a role!"

Isaac corked up Jordy Chase's bunghole,
Chocolate cha-cha'd til morning was nigh;
Gave his nephew a sloppy Picaso
He's a fart knockin', mud packin' guy.

Jordy Chase bought his uncle a butt plug
In the hope that he'd leave him alone;
Isaac plugged up his hole
And such joy filled his soul
That he plugged Jordy's hole with his own.

Uncle Isaac's a middle aged twit
Who's been found competently unfit,
For it's said he enjoys
Gallivanting with boys
And dipping his dick in their shit.

Isaac buggered Jordy in the bedroom
Isaac buggered Jordy in the car
Isaac buggered Jordy in the Men's Room
Of LeGents', Shadowville's favorite bar.

Uncle Isaac chased Jordy around his first crib,
Uncle Isaac "fed" Jordy and splooged on his bib,
Isaac changed Jordy's diapers for open-crotch hose
Then he buggered the toddler and jizzed on his nose.

Isaac cornswabbled his nephew's dinky
Pulled his joystick as if he played Pong;
Dipped his poo jabber till it got stinky
And nicknamed his dong "Donkey Kong."

When Jordan Chasescott was a lad
His Uncle Ike wanted him bad,
With the youth in his sights
Isaac gave up his nights
To baby sit straddling his 'nads.

Uncle Isaac was more like an ant
Who would crawl down young Jordy’s pants.
Jordy’d wiggle and scratch
But Isaac attached
Himself with coagulants.

Uncle Isaac ignored his niece, Judy,
Who didn’t have quite the same booty.
So Judy was spared,
And stood there and stared,
While Jordy got it in the patootie.

When Jordy went on Price is Right
His bung-hole shown like a nightlight.
He said it was Uncle
Ike and Garfuckles
Who implanted in him a Lite-Brite.

Uncle Isaac hosted family for Easter.
He told his sister he’d feast her.
They ate honey baked ham
And rack of young lamb
While Isaac dined on Jordy’s keister.

Isaac Chased Jordan Chasescott
From when he was just a young tot.
Isaac gave him a ball
and that wasn’t all,
for his undies had X marks the spot.

Uncle Isaac would pat Jordy’s buttock
And soothe him to sleep with some smut talk.
As Joey took vids
And entertained bids,
Little Jordy’s cradle would rock.

Uncle Isaac said let’s play Cowboys,
For riding is one of my joys.
I’ll be Roy, you’ll be Trigger,
As we gallop with vigor,
And Jordy, you’ll make whinny noise.

Isaac liked his nephew Jordy’s rear view,
From whence Jordy did his #2.
Jordy did #1
And Isaac said, son,
That not what we Commies doo-doo.

Jordan Chasescott had a gluteus--
That Uncle Isaac said was beauteous.
Isaac said drop your pants,
Give your Uncle a chance,
To give you a rub that’s salubrious.

Uncle Isaac and Jordan would read nursery rhymes
About Commies and sex and YouTube crimes.
Jordy learned about jails
And Joey’s porn sales
While Isaac performed pantomimes.

Isaac Chase’s “love dared not speak its name”
So Jordan was written into Internet fame.
Isaac thanked Will and Zod
And committed job fraud
While Jordan Chasescott bore the shame.

Jordan Chasescott was naïve
Of what Isaac hid up his sleeve.
Isaac gave him a bath
While he did the math
That at least he wouldn’t conceive.

Little Jordan Chasescott lost his way.
Uncle Isaac yelled, “I’ll save the day!”
“Take off your pants
And I’ll do a belt Dance
On your butt ‘til you can say
Uncle!”

Jordan Chasescott’s derriere
Would get lots of sun and fresh air.
Uncle Isaac would blow
And Jordan would know
That he didn’t need any beachwear.

Isaac Chase was childlike and hopeless
And hung out with folks who were soapless.
Isaac took Jordy’s hand
And said I’m your man,
But no one can make me grope you less.


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 by: W-Dockery - Fri, 17 Mar 2023 15:30 UTC

Jordy C wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
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>> Good afternoon Jordy, again, well put.
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> thank you, Will

Hello again my friend.

🙂

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 by: Jordy C - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 15:40 UTC

On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:35:16 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> >>
> >> Good afternoon Jordy, again, well put.
> >>
> >
> > thank you, Will
>
> Hello again my friend.
>
> 🙂
bonjour, Will

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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 19 Mar 2023 21:44 UTC

On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 11:40:12 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:35:16 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
>
> > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > >>
> > >> Good afternoon Jordy, again, well put.
>
> bonjour, Will

Hello there, my friend.

:)

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 by: Jordy C - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 01:58 UTC

On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 5:44:49 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 11:40:12 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:35:16 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> > > Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > > >>
> > > >> Good afternoon Jordy, again, well put.
> >
> > bonjour, Will
>
> Hello there, my friend.
>
> :)
Ciao, Will

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 19:15 UTC

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:58:01 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 5:44:49 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 11:40:12 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:35:16 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> > > > Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Good afternoon Jordy, again, well put.
> > >
> > > bonjour, Will
> >
> > Hello there, my friend.
> >
>
> Ciao, Will

Great to see a friendly face here again, Jordy.

🙂

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:23 UTC

On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 7:33:46 PM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 2:12:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:39:30 AM UTC-5, Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarily autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> > >
> > > > > > > Good evening my friend, great to see you tonight.
> > >
> > > Shalom Will
> >
> > Hello again, my friend.
> >
>
> hola Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

:)

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Subject: Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!
From: jdchase...@gmail.com (Jordy C)
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 by: Jordy C - Wed, 22 Mar 2023 03:36 UTC

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:58:01 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 5:44:49 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 11:40:12 AM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
> > > > On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:35:16 AM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Good afternoon Jordy, again, well put.
> > > >
> > > > bonjour, Will
> > >
> > > Hello there, my friend.
> > >
> >
> > Ciao, Will
>
>
> Great to see a friendly face here again, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
Shalom Will


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